Solicitors:
Have any of your municipalities taken a position on the pre-payment in this calendar year of 2018 real estate taxes?
Based on the email traffic on the county listserv, the county arguments against accepting prepayments seem to be three-fold: we don't know (with precision) what the tax will be, there is no statutory authority to accept taxes a calendar year ahead, and there may/will be a new tax collector.
William W. Warren, Jr.
Moderator PML Listserv
Saul Ewing Arnstein & Lehr LLP
2 North Second Street, Suite 700
Harrisburg, PA 17101
Office (717) 238-7698 | Cell (717) 979-5570
william.warren@saul.commailto:william.warren@saul.com
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It appears that 72 PS § 5511.15 may prohibit collecting it.
Keith O. Brenneman, Esquire
Law Office of Keith O. Brenneman, P.C.
44 West Main Street
Mechanicsburg, PA 17055
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From: Pmlsolicitors [mailto:pmlsolicitors-bounces@lists.imla.org] On Behalf Of Warren Jr., William W.
Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2017 4:22 PM
To: pmlsolicitors@lists.imla.org
Cc: Anne McCollum (AMcCollum@pamunicipalleague.org)
Subject: [Pmlsolicitors] Pre-payment of 2018 taxes
Solicitors:
Have any of your municipalities taken a position on the pre-payment in this calendar year of 2018 real estate taxes?
Based on the email traffic on the county listserv, the county arguments against accepting prepayments seem to be three-fold: we don’t know (with precision) what the tax will be, there is no statutory authority to accept taxes a calendar year ahead, and there may/will be a new tax collector.
William W. Warren, Jr.
Moderator PML Listserv
Saul Ewing Arnstein & Lehr LLP
2 North Second Street, Suite 700
Harrisburg, PA 17101
Office (717) 238-7698 | Cell (717) 979-5570
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Also, Section 15 of the Local Tax Collection Law states:
“It shall not be lawful for any county treasurer, county commissioner or any tax collector, nor for any other person, on his or their behalf, to receive payment or give any receipt for the payment of any taxes that have not been duly assessed and returns of said assessment made according to law…”
Jordan B. Yeager, Esquire (mailto:JBY@curtinheefner.com)
Curtin & Heefner LLP
Doylestown Commerce Center
2005 South Easton Road, Suite 100
Doylestown, PA 18901
Phone: (267) 898-0570 FAX: (267) 759-1389 or (215) 340-3929
www.curtinheefner.comhttp://www.curtinheefner.com/
Newtown/Yardley Office:
1040 Stony Hill Road, Suite 150
Yardley, PA 19067
Phone: (215) 736-2521 FAX: (215) 736-3647
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From: Pmlsolicitors [mailto:pmlsolicitors-bounces@lists.imla.org] On Behalf Of Warren Jr., William W.
Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2017 4:22 PM
To: pmlsolicitors@lists.imla.org
Cc: Anne McCollum (AMcCollum@pamunicipalleague.org) AMcCollum@pamunicipalleague.org
Subject: [Pmlsolicitors] Pre-payment of 2018 taxes
Solicitors:
Have any of your municipalities taken a position on the pre-payment in this calendar year of 2018 real estate taxes?
Based on the email traffic on the county listserv, the county arguments against accepting prepayments seem to be three-fold: we don’t know (with precision) what the tax will be, there is no statutory authority to accept taxes a calendar year ahead, and there may/will be a new tax collector.
William W. Warren, Jr.
Moderator PML Listserv
Saul Ewing Arnstein & Lehr LLP
2 North Second Street, Suite 700
Harrisburg, PA 17101
Office (717) 238-7698 | Cell (717) 979-5570
william.warren@saul.commailto:william.warren@saul.com
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It is my understanding from an accountant that the new tax law prohibits a deduction for real estate taxes paid in advance. As the accountant stated, "Put simply, 2018 state and local taxes paid in 2017 will not be deductible in 2017." I have no citation to the new 1,000-plus page statute. However, reviewing it online, one should be able to locate it in the section about this deduction.
Brian M. Spaid, Esq.
Dale Woodard Gent Law Firm
1030 Liberty St.
Franklin, Pa. 16323
Phone: (814) 432-2181
Fax: (814) 437-3212
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From: Pmlsolicitors [mailto:pmlsolicitors-bounces@lists.imla.org] On Behalf Of Yeager, Jordan B.
Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2017 4:31 PM
To: Warren Jr., William W.; pmlsolicitors@lists.imla.org
Cc: Anne McCollum (AMcCollum@pamunicipalleague.org)
Subject: Re: [Pmlsolicitors] Pre-payment of 2018 taxes
Also, Section 15 of the Local Tax Collection Law states:
“It shall not be lawful for any county treasurer, county commissioner or any tax collector, nor for any other person, on his or their behalf, to receive payment or give any receipt for the payment of any taxes that have not been duly assessed and returns of said assessment made according to law…”
Jordan B. Yeager, Esquire (mailto:JBY@curtinheefner.com)
Curtin & Heefner LLP
Doylestown Commerce Center
2005 South Easton Road, Suite 100
Doylestown, PA 18901
Phone: (267) 898-0570 FAX: (267) 759-1389 or (215) 340-3929
www.curtinheefner.comhttp://www.curtinheefner.com/
Newtown/Yardley Office:
1040 Stony Hill Road, Suite 150
Yardley, PA 19067
Phone: (215) 736-2521 FAX: (215) 736-3647
DISCLOSURE PURSUANT TO CIRCULAR 230: This communication is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, by any person for the purpose of (i) Avoiding any tax-related penalties that may be imposed under the Internal Revenue Code or (ii) Promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any tax-related matter addressed herein.
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From: Pmlsolicitors [mailto:pmlsolicitors-bounces@lists.imla.org] On Behalf Of Warren Jr., William W.
Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2017 4:22 PM
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Cc: Anne McCollum (AMcCollum@pamunicipalleague.orgmailto:AMcCollum@pamunicipalleague.org) <AMcCollum@pamunicipalleague.orgmailto:AMcCollum@pamunicipalleague.org>
Subject: [Pmlsolicitors] Pre-payment of 2018 taxes
Solicitors:
Have any of your municipalities taken a position on the pre-payment in this calendar year of 2018 real estate taxes?
Based on the email traffic on the county listserv, the county arguments against accepting prepayments seem to be three-fold: we don’t know (with precision) what the tax will be, there is no statutory authority to accept taxes a calendar year ahead, and there may/will be a new tax collector.
William W. Warren, Jr.
Moderator PML Listserv
Saul Ewing Arnstein & Lehr LLP
2 North Second Street, Suite 700
Harrisburg, PA 17101
Office (717) 238-7698 | Cell (717) 979-5570
william.warren@saul.commailto:william.warren@saul.com
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IRS position on prepayment - https://www.irs.gov/newsroom/irs-advisory-prepaid-real-property-taxes-may-be-deductible-in-2017-if-assessed-and-paid-in-2017
From: Pmlsolicitors [mailto:pmlsolicitors-bounces@lists.imla.org] On Behalf Of Spaid, Brian
Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2017 4:59 PM
To: Yeager, Jordan B. JBY@curtinheefner.com; Warren Jr., William W. william.warren@saul.com; pmlsolicitors@lists.imla.org
Cc: Anne McCollum (AMcCollum@pamunicipalleague.org) AMcCollum@pamunicipalleague.org
Subject: Re: [Pmlsolicitors] Pre-payment of 2018 taxes
It is my understanding from an accountant that the new tax law prohibits a deduction for real estate taxes paid in advance. As the accountant stated, "Put simply, 2018 state and local taxes paid in 2017 will not be deductible in 2017." I have no citation to the new 1,000-plus page statute. However, reviewing it online, one should be able to locate it in the section about this deduction.
Brian M. Spaid, Esq.
Dale Woodard Gent Law Firm
1030 Liberty St.
Franklin, Pa. 16323
Phone: (814) 432-2181
Fax: (814) 437-3212
spaidlaw@dalewoodardgent.commailto:spaidlaw@dalewoodardgent.com
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From: Pmlsolicitors [mailto:pmlsolicitors-bounces@lists.imla.org] On Behalf Of Yeager, Jordan B.
Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2017 4:31 PM
To: Warren Jr., William W.; pmlsolicitors@lists.imla.orgmailto:pmlsolicitors@lists.imla.org
Cc: Anne McCollum (AMcCollum@pamunicipalleague.orgmailto:AMcCollum@pamunicipalleague.org)
Subject: Re: [Pmlsolicitors] Pre-payment of 2018 taxes
Also, Section 15 of the Local Tax Collection Law states:
“It shall not be lawful for any county treasurer, county commissioner or any tax collector, nor for any other person, on his or their behalf, to receive payment or give any receipt for the payment of any taxes that have not been duly assessed and returns of said assessment made according to law…”
Jordan B. Yeager, Esquire (mailto:JBY@curtinheefner.com)
Curtin & Heefner LLP
Doylestown Commerce Center
2005 South Easton Road, Suite 100
Doylestown, PA 18901
Phone: (267) 898-0570 FAX: (267) 759-1389 or (215) 340-3929
www.curtinheefner.comhttp://www.curtinheefner.com/
Newtown/Yardley Office:
1040 Stony Hill Road, Suite 150
Yardley, PA 19067
Phone: (215) 736-2521 FAX: (215) 736-3647
DISCLOSURE PURSUANT TO CIRCULAR 230: This communication is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, by any person for the purpose of (i) Avoiding any tax-related penalties that may be imposed under the Internal Revenue Code or (ii) Promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any tax-related matter addressed herein.
THE INFORMATION CONTAINED IN THIS EMAIL MESSAGE IS INTENDED ONLY FOR THE PERSONAL AND CONFIDENTIAL USE OF THE DESIGNATED RECIPIENTS NAMED ABOVE. This message may be an attorney-client communication and as such is privileged and confidential. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or an agent responsible for delivering it to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that you have received this document in error, and that any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by telephone or return email and delete the material from any computer, without copying. Although this e-mail is not intended to contain any virus or defect, you are responsible for ensuring that no virus or defect exists that may affect your computer. The sender disclaims any responsibility for any loss or damages arising from any virus or defect associated with this e-mail. Thank you.
From: Pmlsolicitors [mailto:pmlsolicitors-bounces@lists.imla.org] On Behalf Of Warren Jr., William W.
Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2017 4:22 PM
To: pmlsolicitors@lists.imla.orgmailto:pmlsolicitors@lists.imla.org
Cc: Anne McCollum (AMcCollum@pamunicipalleague.orgmailto:AMcCollum@pamunicipalleague.org) <AMcCollum@pamunicipalleague.orgmailto:AMcCollum@pamunicipalleague.org>
Subject: [Pmlsolicitors] Pre-payment of 2018 taxes
Solicitors:
Have any of your municipalities taken a position on the pre-payment in this calendar year of 2018 real estate taxes?
Based on the email traffic on the county listserv, the county arguments against accepting prepayments seem to be three-fold: we don’t know (with precision) what the tax will be, there is no statutory authority to accept taxes a calendar year ahead, and there may/will be a new tax collector.
William W. Warren, Jr.
Moderator PML Listserv
Saul Ewing Arnstein & Lehr LLP
2 North Second Street, Suite 700
Harrisburg, PA 17101
Office (717) 238-7698 | Cell (717) 979-5570
william.warren@saul.commailto:william.warren@saul.com
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