On 5/27/2013 2:40 PM, Kenton A. Hoover wrote: > A useful reference to own: http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/0521702380/ref=mw_dp_sim_ss1?pi=SL500_SY125 > > -- > Kenton A. Hoover > kenton@nemersonhoover.org > +14158305843 > > Kenton: Thanks. I ordered from Amazon. --- Graham ==

Your message is the only place google has ever seen "OnTime dial clock" Did you mean "a dial clock that displays the correct time" and left out the space between on and time? On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 11:21 AM, Eric Williams <wd6cmu@gmail.com> wrote: > If you want a project, you should be able to get an older Android tablet or > a Chumby 8 for $100 or less and hack it to do what you want. Hard to beat > the price for the hardware you get. > > I'm happy with my OnTime dial clock. > > > On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 8:14 AM, Bob Camp <lists@rtty.us> wrote: > > > Hi > > > > On May 27, 2013, at 10:56 AM, Miguel Barbosa Gonçalves <m@mbg.pt> wrote: > > > > > Hi Bob! > > > > > > On 27 May 2013 14:56, Bob Camp <lists@rtty.us> wrote: > > > > > >> Hi > > >> > > >> Correct answer: > > >> > > >> I don't think there is such a beast. Once you get away from the radio > > >> controlled (WWVB etc) clocks the cost goes up quickly. > > >> > > > > > > I don't understand why a microprocessor with an Ethernet controller and > > a 7 > > > segment display would cost so much to manufacture... I think I'll build > > my > > > own. > > > > … and that's really my point. You can build one easier than you can buy > > one. > > > > > > > > >> Also correct, but a bit of a joke answer: > > >> > > >> Raspberry PI driving your television set. Alternatively make the Pi > > feed > > >> control signals to a hacked normal clock. > > >> > > > > > > Good joke :-) I imagine the electricity bill at the end of the month. > > > > The Pi isn't all that power hungry. The TV set - yes it's going to be a > > bit of a hog. Even with the Pi's i/o limitations you should be able to > get > > it to run some sort of low power external display. > > > > Bob > > > > > > > > I would like to have a clock sync with my super precise stratum 1 > servers > > > :-) what's the point in having them if I can see the time anywhere? :-) > > > > > > Cheers, > > > Miguel > > > _______________________________________________ > > > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > > > To unsubscribe, go to > > https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > > > and follow the instructions there. > > > > _______________________________________________ > > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > > To unsubscribe, go to > > https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > > and follow the instructions there. > > > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to > https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there. >

On 27 May 2013 18:11, David J Taylor <david-taylor@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote: > From: Miguel Barbosa Gonçalves > [] > > Just checked the Windows taskbar clock and it has a 1 second delay... > > At work I use Windows but use Mac OS X at home... but I am looking for a > solution for the Windows platform. > > TIA, > Miguel > ==============================**= > > Both analogue and digital display, screen or taskbar (or both), UTC > options, and should not have a 1-second delay: > > http://www.satsignal.eu/**software/disk.html#TinyBen<http://www.satsignal.eu/software/disk.html#TinyBen> Hi David! Many thanks! It really does not have the 1 second delay. Great piece of software! Cheers, Miguel

OK, the LOWEST cost option I can think of for driving an analog clock with millisecond accuracy. Buy a normal AC powered clock that uses a synchronous AC motor that runs off the 60Hz AC power, not a battery powered clock. Then have your NTP disciplined computer generate a 60Hz audio sine wave. Amplify the sine wave to 12 volts then use a small 12:120 volt transformer to step up to 120VAC. The clock should run at the correct rate. Setting will need to be done manually. You sine wave generator will need to check the system time every N cycles. Next simplest is to use a small LCD computer monitor or a cheap Android tablet.

On 28/05/13 16:40, Chris Albertson wrote: > Next simplest is to use a small LCD computer monitor or a cheap Android > tablet. For a local student radio station I used some £8 LED matrix boards (display modules + drivers). Two of them daisy-chained was plenty for very readable time, four got you time and date. I had it driven by an Arduino from a PC but on something like the Beaglebone Black or possibly even the RPi, it should be trivial to drive from the PC directly. There are -loads- of modules/boards like these out there! Never got around to measuring accuracy at the sub-second side of things but it was wholly accurate enough for radio timings. -- Cheers, James Harrison

hi Bob, I had the same problems which I solved (partly) the following way: transformer tc1-1t is offered here: http://www.minikits.com.au/TC1-1T for mixers I took TUF-1 which is rather similar to TUF-R3SM and got it here (you have to bend pins properly): http://www.box73.de/product_info.php?products_id=419 input transformers I got via ebay (160660972892). They are 75 Ohms instead of 50 Ohms, yes one has to compromise power splitter also via ebay (251254674273). The are a little large but by you can fit it in. I know there are some compromises but better than nothing. I am very satisfied with my DMTD. Nearly as good as W.J.Riley's. An additional note for the DDS module: there are some glitches in the layout so beware and check all connections. Resistors and most capacitors are package 0604 other than on mixer module. LM6609 are different package also. hope this helps Goetz Am 27.05.2013 22:27, : > Some time back I purchased from Stanley Reynolds the necessary boards > for the Riley DMTD. I'm now looking at what's necessary to build out > these boards and the Mini Circuits parts are far and away the most > expensive parts, due principally to the 10 part minimum on several of > the items. > > I'm wondering if there are any others on the list who are > contemplating the Riley DMTD and might wish to split a Mini Circuits > parts order to ease the pain? > > I guess I should also ask if an alternate DMTD in the works and if so, > where does it stand at this time? > > Thanks, > Bob Darby > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to > https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there.

Thanks Götz, I'll run down those suggestions. bob On 5/28/2013 12:46 PM, Götz Romahn wrote: > hi Bob, > I had the same problems which I solved (partly) the following way: > > transformer tc1-1t is offered here: http://www.minikits.com.au/TC1-1T > for mixers I took TUF-1 which is rather similar to TUF-R3SM and got it > here (you have to bend pins properly): > http://www.box73.de/product_info.php?products_id=419 > input transformers I got via ebay (160660972892). They are 75 Ohms > instead of 50 Ohms, yes one has to compromise > power splitter also via ebay (251254674273). The are a little large > but by you can fit it in. > > I know there are some compromises but better than nothing. I am very > satisfied with my DMTD. Nearly as good as W.J.Riley's. > An additional note for the DDS module: there are some glitches in the > layout so beware and check all connections. Resistors and most > capacitors are package 0604 other than on mixer module. LM6609 are > different package also. > hope this helps Goetz > > Am 27.05.2013 22:27, : >> Some time back I purchased from Stanley Reynolds the necessary boards >> for the Riley DMTD. I'm now looking at what's necessary to build out >> these boards and the Mini Circuits parts are far and away the most >> expensive parts, due principally to the 10 part minimum on several of >> the items. >> >> I'm wondering if there are any others on the list who are >> contemplating the Riley DMTD and might wish to split a Mini Circuits >> parts order to ease the pain? >> >> I guess I should also ask if an alternate DMTD in the works and if >> so, where does it stand at this time? >> >> Thanks, >> Bob Darby >> _______________________________________________ >> time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com >> To unsubscribe, go to >> https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts >> and follow the instructions there. > > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to > https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there. >

Inova Solutions OnTime Analog Clocks http://www.inovasolutions.com/network-clocks/products/analog-wall-clock.htm On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 11:47 PM, Doug Calvert <dfc-list@douglasfcalvert.net > wrote: > Your message is the only place google has ever seen "OnTime dial clock" > > Did you mean "a dial clock that displays the correct time" and left out > the space between on and time? > > > On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 11:21 AM, Eric Williams <wd6cmu@gmail.com> wrote: > > > If you want a project, you should be able to get an older Android tablet > or > > a Chumby 8 for $100 or less and hack it to do what you want. Hard to > beat > > the price for the hardware you get. > > > > I'm happy with my OnTime dial clock. > > > > > > On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 8:14 AM, Bob Camp <lists@rtty.us> wrote: > > > > > Hi > > > > > > On May 27, 2013, at 10:56 AM, Miguel Barbosa Gonçalves <m@mbg.pt> > wrote: > > > > > > > Hi Bob! > > > > > > > > On 27 May 2013 14:56, Bob Camp <lists@rtty.us> wrote: > > > > > > > >> Hi > > > >> > > > >> Correct answer: > > > >> > > > >> I don't think there is such a beast. Once you get away from the > radio > > > >> controlled (WWVB etc) clocks the cost goes up quickly. > > > >> > > > > > > > > I don't understand why a microprocessor with an Ethernet controller > and > > > a 7 > > > > segment display would cost so much to manufacture... I think I'll > build > > > my > > > > own. > > > > > > … and that's really my point. You can build one easier than you can buy > > > one. > > > > > > > > > > > >> Also correct, but a bit of a joke answer: > > > >> > > > >> Raspberry PI driving your television set. Alternatively make the Pi > > > feed > > > >> control signals to a hacked normal clock. > > > >> > > > > > > > > Good joke :-) I imagine the electricity bill at the end of the month. > > > > > > The Pi isn't all that power hungry. The TV set - yes it's going to be a > > > bit of a hog. Even with the Pi's i/o limitations you should be able to > > get > > > it to run some sort of low power external display. > > > > > > Bob > > > > > > > > > > > I would like to have a clock sync with my super precise stratum 1 > > servers > > > > :-) what's the point in having them if I can see the time anywhere? > :-) > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > Miguel > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > > > > To unsubscribe, go to > > > https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > > > > and follow the instructions there. > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > > > To unsubscribe, go to > > > https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > > > and follow the instructions there. > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > > To unsubscribe, go to > > https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > > and follow the instructions there. > > > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to > https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there.

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 I wouldnt buy anything from them, they have a horrible attitude I have 3 giant LED boards that theyve flat out refused to give me docs or anything for because I wont buy a "maintenance agreement" On 5/29/13 12:13:48, Eric Williams wrote: > Inova Solutions OnTime Analog Clocks > http://www.inovasolutions.com/network-clocks/products/analog-wall-clock.htm > > > > On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 11:47 PM, Doug Calvert > <dfc-list@douglasfcalvert.net >> wrote: > >> Your message is the only place google has ever seen "OnTime dial >> clock" >> >> Did you mean "a dial clock that displays the correct time" and >> left out the space between on and time? >> >> >> On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 11:21 AM, Eric Williams >> <wd6cmu@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> If you want a project, you should be able to get an older >>> Android tablet >> or >>> a Chumby 8 for $100 or less and hack it to do what you want. >>> Hard to >> beat >>> the price for the hardware you get. >>> >>> I'm happy with my OnTime dial clock. >>> >>> >>> On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 8:14 AM, Bob Camp <lists@rtty.us> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi >>>> >>>> On May 27, 2013, at 10:56 AM, Miguel Barbosa Gonçalves >>>> <m@mbg.pt> >> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi Bob! >>>>> >>>>> On 27 May 2013 14:56, Bob Camp <lists@rtty.us> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi >>>>>> >>>>>> Correct answer: >>>>>> >>>>>> I don't think there is such a beast. Once you get away >>>>>> from the >> radio >>>>>> controlled (WWVB etc) clocks the cost goes up quickly. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I don't understand why a microprocessor with an Ethernet >>>>> controller >> and >>>> a 7 >>>>> segment display would cost so much to manufacture... I >>>>> think I'll >> build >>>> my >>>>> own. >>>> >>>> … and that's really my point. You can build one easier than >>>> you can buy one. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Also correct, but a bit of a joke answer: >>>>>> >>>>>> Raspberry PI driving your television set. Alternatively >>>>>> make the Pi >>>> feed >>>>>> control signals to a hacked normal clock. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Good joke :-) I imagine the electricity bill at the end of >>>>> the month. >>>> >>>> The Pi isn't all that power hungry. The TV set - yes it's >>>> going to be a bit of a hog. Even with the Pi's i/o >>>> limitations you should be able to >>> get >>>> it to run some sort of low power external display. >>>> >>>> Bob >>>> >>>>> >>>>> I would like to have a clock sync with my super precise >>>>> stratum 1 >>> servers >>>>> :-) what's the point in having them if I can see the time >>>>> anywhere? >> :-) >>>>> >>>>> Cheers, Miguel >>>>> _______________________________________________ time-nuts >>>>> mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to >>>> https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts >>>>> and follow the instructions there. >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ time-nuts >>>> mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to >>>> https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and >>>> follow the instructions there. >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ time-nuts >>> mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to >>> https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and >>> follow the instructions there. >>> >> _______________________________________________ time-nuts mailing >> list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to >> https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and >> follow the instructions there. > _______________________________________________ time-nuts mailing > list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to > https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow > the instructions there. > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.17 (Darwin) Comment: GPGTools - http://gpgtools.org Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJRpk0LAAoJEHJ/lMQe1SM0+HQIAI5j1b7A1xDRaRHuOmN3bkbs PpR9CeOE+XAf/W8vS2HmsQp+Kb1VsHJTbbTofHLqsayKnYhjQ+mizaOqfBEmLlhD 1mIBGilXk5dmt4HS18mIXXn6rI1quwAF3FENDC7MhyoYlXdiPKatBo7nvJ/WoP3+ /O/fNEBDqXsCbJbplrQgkMmaYyjeV4Mj2cBL7q6pBLBHqy+oxUM/XIKzRDYnTDzf NPgzPpk8fhyv908eZBZk222ZEF9EqBu0BWwaTgGQMA9vCva6B9oXp1XWHMYtp11q 5p5rAHx9kmuMbzeHmw4bdqmtCL+mpgg1oeWPCWm/qGR0Mj12n8ppecyKsfCTC3g= =Sgmi -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

In another thread that was active today, the Symmetricom NTP clocks were mentioned. I bought two today for $99 a pop, both power over ethernet models, but they have a line powered model too. One 12 hour face and one 24 hour face. On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 12:13 PM, Eric Williams <wd6cmu@gmail.com> wrote: > Inova Solutions OnTime Analog Clocks > http://www.inovasolutions.com/network-clocks/products/analog-wall-clock.htm > > > On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 11:47 PM, Doug Calvert < > dfc-list@douglasfcalvert.net > > wrote: > > > Your message is the only place google has ever seen "OnTime dial clock" > > > > Did you mean "a dial clock that displays the correct time" and left out > > the space between on and time? > > > > > > On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 11:21 AM, Eric Williams <wd6cmu@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > > If you want a project, you should be able to get an older Android > tablet > > or > > > a Chumby 8 for $100 or less and hack it to do what you want. Hard to > > beat > > > the price for the hardware you get. > > > > > > I'm happy with my OnTime dial clock. > > > > > > > > > On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 8:14 AM, Bob Camp <lists@rtty.us> wrote: > > > > > > > Hi > > > > > > > > On May 27, 2013, at 10:56 AM, Miguel Barbosa Gonçalves <m@mbg.pt> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Hi Bob! > > > > > > > > > > On 27 May 2013 14:56, Bob Camp <lists@rtty.us> wrote: > > > > > > > > > >> Hi > > > > >> > > > > >> Correct answer: > > > > >> > > > > >> I don't think there is such a beast. Once you get away from the > > radio > > > > >> controlled (WWVB etc) clocks the cost goes up quickly. > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > I don't understand why a microprocessor with an Ethernet controller > > and > > > > a 7 > > > > > segment display would cost so much to manufacture... I think I'll > > build > > > > my > > > > > own. > > > > > > > > … and that's really my point. You can build one easier than you can > buy > > > > one. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> Also correct, but a bit of a joke answer: > > > > >> > > > > >> Raspberry PI driving your television set. Alternatively make the > Pi > > > > feed > > > > >> control signals to a hacked normal clock. > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Good joke :-) I imagine the electricity bill at the end of the > month. > > > > > > > > The Pi isn't all that power hungry. The TV set - yes it's going to > be a > > > > bit of a hog. Even with the Pi's i/o limitations you should be able > to > > > get > > > > it to run some sort of low power external display. > > > > > > > > Bob > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I would like to have a clock sync with my super precise stratum 1 > > > servers > > > > > :-) what's the point in having them if I can see the time anywhere? > > :-) > > > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > Miguel > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > > > > > To unsubscribe, go to > > > > https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > > > > > and follow the instructions there. > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > > > > To unsubscribe, go to > > > > https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > > > > and follow the instructions there. > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > > > To unsubscribe, go to > > > https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > > > and follow the instructions there. > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > > To unsubscribe, go to > > https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > > and follow the instructions there. > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to > https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there. >