Fueling vessals
I have always wondered why it is so "difficult" to fuel my boat. Why don't
the nozzles turn off like they do when we fill our cars? Is it because the
car uses gasoline? My boat takes diesel, and when fueling, I keep my
ear "close to the ground" listening for that tell tale gurgle. And then
sometimes, as careful as I am, I get an overflow, usually on deck, rather than
at the vent.
I've seen gadgets, to fit the overflow vent, etc. But have been puzzled as to
why it just doesn't shut off at the appointed time!
John
Yankee Belle
Albin 32+2
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John, there are several well-known reasons for that behavior. First, and
perhaps foremost, most of us complain about slow fill speeds, so fuel dock
operators are tempted to modify the lever or replace it with a faster one,
and they simply can't shut off quick enough to avoid spills. Others
theorize that the abuse these nozzles and valves receive quickly damage the
delicate springs and inner valves which are supposed to shut it off.
Many fuelers admit that their nozzles/valves aren't designed for use like
those at car gas stations. They are a rather crude device to stop fueling
once the tank is filled, but not as quick-to-stop as those at gas stations
and will permit splashes and spills. Your current technique of listening
for telltale evidence that you're getting close is a sound one.
Bob Peterson
47' Lien Hwa CMY
"Lopaka Nane"
San Francisco
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I have always wondered why it is so "difficult" to fuel my boat. Why don't
the nozzles turn off like they do when we fill our cars? Is it because the
car uses gasoline? My boat takes diesel, and when fueling, I keep my ear
"close to the ground" listening for that tell tale gurgle. And then
sometimes, as careful as I am, I get an overflow, usually on deck, rather
than at the vent.
I've seen gadgets, to fit the overflow vent, etc. But have been puzzled as
to why it just doesn't shut off at the appointed time!
John
Yankee Belle
Albin 32+2
each time I used to refuel my boat, I woudl always end up with a little
diesel ending up in the water... obviously a big no no nowadays. Personally
I think a cup of diesel won't do much harm and will evaporate quickly but...
the fuel woudl spit out not only when the tank is full but also during
fueling as traces of diesel woudl go up the the vent... barely anything but
enough to be visible on the water. I couldn't use any external device
because the vents are a couple of feet down the hull and impossible to reach
at most fuel docks.
I recently modified the system by inserting a 3 way valves in each vent
lines. In normal use, vent still goes overboard. When refueling, I switch
the valves to direct both vents to a Tee and into a 6' long clear hose. I
route that hose thru the engine room vent and put it in one of the fuel
filler.
simple, cheap and not a drop of fuel goes overboard. it will not work on
everyboat, I'm lucky that the vent and filler are near the engine room
intakes but it works for me.
pascal
miami, fl
70 hatteras 53my
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Subject: T&T: Fueling vessals
I have always wondered why it is so "difficult" to fuel my boat. Why
don't
the nozzles turn off like they do when we fill our cars? Is it because
the
car uses gasoline? My boat takes diesel, and when fueling, I keep my
ear "close to the ground" listening for that tell tale gurgle. And then
sometimes, as careful as I am, I get an overflow, usually on deck, rather
than
at the vent.
I've seen gadgets, to fit the overflow vent, etc. But have been puzzled
as to
why it just doesn't shut off at the appointed time!
John
Yankee Belle
Albin 32+2
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each time I used to refuel my boat, I woudl always end up with a little
diesel ending up in the water> the fuel woudl spit out not only when the
tank is full but also during
fueling as traces of diesel woud go up the the vent
pascal
That is a neat system.
For those who want one that is "automatic" see below. It works like
gangbusters.
I suffered the problem , ( clogged vents from spiders) even with screens
on the vents.
A second reason for fuel spitting out the vents is that the fuel fill rate
is higher than the vents are designed to handle, along with the vents being
set too low to the top of the tanks.
Solution is on my web page. Click on repairs, then Fuel Vent.
For a picture
of the vent reservoir , cl. on pics of CCRIDER, page two.
I made it of aluminum but it is easy to do in plastic water pipe fittings
that are glued together.
Of course I put a screen over the goose neck vent. It is great. No clogged
vents and no fuel spitting overboard.
CCC
Charles C. Jr., and Pat Culotta
M/V CCRIDER
Patterson, La.
http://www.geocities.com/charlesculotta
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For those who want one that is "automatic" see below. It works like
gangbusters.........
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http://www.geocities.com/charlesculotta
For those who would rather spend money instead of fabricating the boxes
themselves the way Charles did, Vetus has a similar unit. See:
http://www.vetus.nl/producten/mainns.asp?productid=125&lang=2
I haven't seen them in use yet, but I am having them installed right now in a
customer's boat that was spitting a pint of fuel every time we filled up. When
the ice melts and that boat's back in the water, we'll see how well they work.
Kevin Redden
I am going to install a wissle on the vent. It is comonly use on home
furnace oil.
Sell for 12$. No need to stick your ears on the pipe, whit this device you
can clearly ear the noise and it change wen the tank is geting full.
Sylvain Sirois
http://www.plongeess.com
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Objet : T&T: Fueling vessals -Another Remedy
each time I used to refuel my boat, I woudl always end up with a
little diesel ending up in the water> the fuel woudl spit
out not only
when the tank is full but also during fueling as traces of
diesel woud
go up the the vent
pascal
That is a neat system.
For those who want one that is "automatic" see below. It
works like gangbusters.
I suffered the problem , ( clogged vents from spiders) even
with screens on the vents.
A second reason for fuel spitting out the vents is that the
fuel fill rate is higher than the vents are designed to
handle, along with the vents being set too low to the top of
the tanks.
Solution is on my web page. Click on repairs, then Fuel Vent.
For a picture
of the vent reservoir , cl. on pics of CCRIDER, page two.
I made it of aluminum but it is easy to do in plastic water
pipe fittings that are glued together.
Of course I put a screen over the goose neck vent. It is
great. No clogged vents and no fuel spitting overboard.
CCC
Charles C. Jr., and Pat Culotta
M/V CCRIDER
Patterson, La.
http://www.geocities.com/charlesculotta
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