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TWL: Re: All chain rode lengths

FM
Faure, Marin
Fri, Jan 9, 2004 1:34 AM

To those listers who use all-chain rodes: I'd be interested in knowing

what length chain you have.

We have 200' of chain on the Bruce anchor on the pulpit.  We use a scope
of between 5:1 and 7:1 when anchoring.  Our stern/spare anchor
(Fortress) has a combination rode with about 30 feet of chain and 250
feet of nylon.


C. Marin Faure
GB36-403 "La Perouse"
Bellingham, Washington

>To those listers who use all-chain rodes: I'd be interested in knowing what length chain you have. We have 200' of chain on the Bruce anchor on the pulpit. We use a scope of between 5:1 and 7:1 when anchoring. Our stern/spare anchor (Fortress) has a combination rode with about 30 feet of chain and 250 feet of nylon. ______________________________ C. Marin Faure GB36-403 "La Perouse" Bellingham, Washington
JD
Jim Donohue
Fri, Jan 9, 2004 2:50 AM

It is kind of fascinating.  Left coast versus right coast.  We carried
600 feet of nylon atop 50 feet of chain on our 28 foot Carver.  Used it
all lots of times. Sometimes only 300 feet off shore. Could actually put
out 900 feet in a pinch.(though that committed the backup rode)  Whadda
expect on a 28 foot boat.

Jim

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To those listers who use all-chain rodes: I'd be interested

in knowing
what length chain you have.

We have 200' of chain on the Bruce anchor on the pulpit.  We
use a scope of between 5:1 and 7:1 when anchoring.  Our
stern/spare anchor
(Fortress) has a combination rode with about 30 feet of chain
and 250 feet of nylon.


C. Marin Faure
GB36-403 "La Perouse"
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It is kind of fascinating. Left coast versus right coast. We carried 600 feet of nylon atop 50 feet of chain on our 28 foot Carver. Used it all lots of times. Sometimes only 300 feet off shore. Could actually put out 900 feet in a pinch.(though that committed the backup rode) Whadda expect on a 28 foot boat. Jim > -----Original Message----- > From: trawler-world-list-bounces@lists.samurai.com > [mailto:trawler-world-list-bounces@lists.samurai.com] On > Behalf Of Faure, Marin > Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2004 5:34 PM > To: trawler-world-list@lists.samurai.com > Subject: TWL: Re: All chain rode lengths > > > >To those listers who use all-chain rodes: I'd be interested > in knowing > what length chain you have. > > We have 200' of chain on the Bruce anchor on the pulpit. We > use a scope of between 5:1 and 7:1 when anchoring. Our > stern/spare anchor > (Fortress) has a combination rode with about 30 feet of chain > and 250 feet of nylon. > > ______________________________ > C. Marin Faure > GB36-403 "La Perouse" > Bellingham, Washington _______________________________________________ > http://lists.samurai.com/mailman/listinfo/trawler-world-list > > To Unsubscribe send email to > trawler-world-list-request@lists.samurai.com > Include the word "Unsubscribe" (and nothing else) in the > subject or body of the message. > >
K
Keith
Fri, Jan 9, 2004 11:16 AM

Vs. Gulf Coast. Galveston bay is maybe 12' deep. We consider Offatt's Bayou
in Galveston "deep" at 30' or so. I regularly run my 4.5' draft boat in 6-8'
of water, something that I bet would scare the bejeezers out of those left
coasters!

Keith
__
Leaving the dock is optional. Returning is mandatory.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Donohue" jim_donohue@computer.org

It is kind of fascinating.  Left coast versus right coast.  We carried
600 feet of nylon atop 50 feet of chain on our 28 foot Carver.

Vs. Gulf Coast. Galveston bay is maybe 12' deep. We consider Offatt's Bayou in Galveston "deep" at 30' or so. I regularly run my 4.5' draft boat in 6-8' of water, something that I bet would scare the bejeezers out of those left coasters! Keith __ Leaving the dock is optional. Returning is mandatory. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Donohue" <jim_donohue@computer.org> > It is kind of fascinating. Left coast versus right coast. We carried > 600 feet of nylon atop 50 feet of chain on our 28 foot Carver.
D
David
Fri, Jan 9, 2004 5:54 PM

Ahh the art of anchoring again . . .

Wow, 650' of 3/8 chain is over 1000 lbs. Listees may want to check and see
how much weight they can take in the bow before purchasing. Little Skooch
has a very high buoyant bow but I would worry about an extra 1000lbs? Of
course you can most likely put a Jeep on the bow of a 60 footer. Certainly
can on Skooch's big sister the 58 LRC.

So I need more rode (two 50' 3/8 chain to 250' nylon). I thought I had
scope good to 45 feet? Do folks really get situations to anchor in 100 feet
of water? I would have to go 100 miles to find water that deep.

http://www.accochain.com/marine.html
3/8 chain is roughly 150lbs per 100 foot.
1/2 chain is roughly 250lbs per 100 foot.
5/8 chain is roughly 375lbs per 100 foot.

Skooch Hatteras LRC 42
Worton Creek MD

David Stahl


           Beacon Technologies Inc.
          Serving The Delaware Valley
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Ahh the art of anchoring again . . . Wow, 650' of 3/8 chain is over 1000 lbs. Listees may want to check and see how much weight they can take in the bow before purchasing. Little Skooch has a very high buoyant bow but I would worry about an extra 1000lbs? Of course you can most likely put a Jeep on the bow of a 60 footer. Certainly can on Skooch's big sister the 58 LRC. So I need more rode (two 50' 3/8 chain to 250' nylon). I thought I had scope good to 45 feet? Do folks really get situations to anchor in 100 feet of water? I would have to go 100 miles to find water that deep. http://www.accochain.com/marine.html 3/8 chain is roughly 150lbs per 100 foot. 1/2 chain is roughly 250lbs per 100 foot. 5/8 chain is roughly 375lbs per 100 foot. Skooch Hatteras LRC 42 Worton Creek MD David Stahl ************************************************************** Beacon Technologies Inc. Serving The Delaware Valley Business and Residential Internet Services
DS
D Sorensen
Fri, Jan 9, 2004 6:27 PM

<<Wow, 650' of 3/8 chain is over 1000 lbs. Listees may want to check and see
how much weight they can take in the bow before purchasing. Little Skooch
has a very high buoyant bow but I would worry about an extra 1000lbs? Of>>

I didn't realize how heavy 650 ft of 5/8 chain was until I had to hand over
hand it out of the lockers and walk it over to the side of the boat and let
it down to my helpers. Quite a chore. With three of us stretching it out on
the dock, we finally decided that 100ft was about all we could drag. So we
snaked the 650 feet back and forth in 100 ft increments. After cleaning and
inspecting the chain, we then painted a color coded 5 foot long marker at
every 100 ft and then a small 1 foot marker at 25 ft increment in between.
Now I can tell to a 25 ft accuracy how much chain is out. Before I did this
it was just a guess.

If your 375 lbs per 100 ft is correct, then I have 2,433 lbs of chain in the
bow. No wonder when it was one the dock, the bow came up several inches.
Since the 60 DeFever weighs in at approximately 90,000++ lbs, this is about
2 percent of its weight in the bow.

We have four locker compartments, and when we use a lot of chain, someone
does have to guide the chain into the proper lockers. Normally I have 200 ft
of chain in the locker compartment directly under the windlass so I can
single hand the anchor and chain if the depth is not to deep.

I just hope that the windlass never gives up the ghost with all that chain
out.

Don Sorensen
60 DeFever
Seattle/Dallas

<<Wow, 650' of 3/8 chain is over 1000 lbs. Listees may want to check and see how much weight they can take in the bow before purchasing. Little Skooch has a very high buoyant bow but I would worry about an extra 1000lbs? Of>> I didn't realize how heavy 650 ft of 5/8 chain was until I had to hand over hand it out of the lockers and walk it over to the side of the boat and let it down to my helpers. Quite a chore. With three of us stretching it out on the dock, we finally decided that 100ft was about all we could drag. So we snaked the 650 feet back and forth in 100 ft increments. After cleaning and inspecting the chain, we then painted a color coded 5 foot long marker at every 100 ft and then a small 1 foot marker at 25 ft increment in between. Now I can tell to a 25 ft accuracy how much chain is out. Before I did this it was just a guess. If your 375 lbs per 100 ft is correct, then I have 2,433 lbs of chain in the bow. No wonder when it was one the dock, the bow came up several inches. Since the 60 DeFever weighs in at approximately 90,000++ lbs, this is about 2 percent of its weight in the bow. We have four locker compartments, and when we use a lot of chain, someone does have to guide the chain into the proper lockers. Normally I have 200 ft of chain in the locker compartment directly under the windlass so I can single hand the anchor and chain if the depth is not to deep. I just hope that the windlass never gives up the ghost with all that chain out. Don Sorensen 60 DeFever Seattle/Dallas