List Threading Behavior?
Hello,
Am I the only one whose email client has trouble putting threads
together for this list? All of my other lists appear to be working
correctly. Am I missing something?
On Tue, 25 Oct 2011 01:29:07 -0400
Doug Calvert dfc-list@douglasfcalvert.net wrote:
Am I the only one whose email client has trouble putting threads
together for this list? All of my other lists appear to be working
correctly. Am I missing something?
This is not an issue of the mailinglist itself, but of mail clients
that do not conform to the RFC's. Especially webclients and MS stuff
are known to miss the "In-Reply-To" and "References" header fields
which are needed to get threading working correctly.
Ie if someone with an incorrectly working mailclient replies to a
mail you will get a "split" thread, because the In-Reply-To field is
missing.
Attila Kinali
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On 10/25/2011 05:10 AM, Attila Kinali wrote:
On Tue, 25 Oct 2011 01:29:07 -0400
Doug Calvertdfc-list@douglasfcalvert.net wrote:
Am I the only one whose email client has trouble putting threads
together for this list? All of my other lists appear to be working
correctly. Am I missing something?
This is not an issue of the mailinglist itself, but of mail clients
that do not conform to the RFC's. Especially webclients and MS stuff
are known to miss the "In-Reply-To" and "References" header fields
which are needed to get threading working correctly.
Ie if someone with an incorrectly working mailclient replies to a
mail you will get a "split" thread, because the In-Reply-To field is
missing.
Attila Kinali
Thanks that makes sense. Most of the other mailing lists I am on are
mainly populated by n*x users.
Looking at recent instances of thread-breaking tells a different story:
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20110929
Thunderbird/7.0.1
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.21)
Gecko/20110830 Thunderbird/3.1.13
While these mailers are all running on Microsoft OSes, none of them are
actual Microsoft products.
Thanks,
-JP
On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 3:00 PM, Doug Calvert
dfc-list@douglasfcalvert.netwrote:
On 10/25/2011 05:10 AM, Attila Kinali wrote:
On Tue, 25 Oct 2011 01:29:07 -0400
Doug Calvert<dfc-list@**douglasfcalvert.netdfc-list@douglasfcalvert.net>
wrote:
Am I the only one whose email client has trouble putting threads
together for this list? All of my other lists appear to be working
correctly. Am I missing something?
This is not an issue of the mailinglist itself, but of mail clients
that do not conform to the RFC's. Especially webclients and MS stuff
are known to miss the "In-Reply-To" and "References" header fields
which are needed to get threading working correctly.
Ie if someone with an incorrectly working mailclient replies to a
mail you will get a "split" thread, because the In-Reply-To field is
missing.
Attila Kinali
Thanks that makes sense. Most of the other mailing lists I am on are
mainly populated by n*x users.
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The other way that threads get broken is by thread 'hijacking'. If I
were to hit reply to any message on this thread, change the subject and
delete the body, I could write a 'new' message. Threaded clients would
see that new message as part of the existing thread, but others would
simply see a new message with a new subject. It's bad form to use
'reply' and change the subject. If you're going to change the subject,
start with a new and blank message.
Ziggy
On 10/25/2011 05:38 PM, Justin Pinnix wrote:
Looking at recent instances of thread-breaking tells a different story:
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20110929
Thunderbird/7.0.1
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.21)
Gecko/20110830 Thunderbird/3.1.13
While these mailers are all running on Microsoft OSes, none of them are
actual Microsoft products.
If one is using thunderbird as below, it is just as easy to right click
the time nuts address element at the top of the message and reply do a
"compose message"
If using web based email, the reply-to and change the subject is
probably the easiest since there is no way to do the above action. It
is interesting that the examples below are from thunderbird.
Jim
On 10/26/2011 10:53 AM, Ziggy wrote:
The other way that threads get broken is by thread 'hijacking'. If I
were to hit reply to any message on this thread, change the subject
and delete the body, I could write a 'new' message. Threaded clients
would see that new message as part of the existing thread, but others
would simply see a new message with a new subject. It's bad form to
use 'reply' and change the subject. If you're going to change the
subject, start with a new and blank message.
Ziggy
On 10/25/2011 05:38 PM, Justin Pinnix wrote:
Looking at recent instances of thread-breaking tells a different story:
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20110929
Thunderbird/7.0.1
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US;
rv:1.9.2.21)
Gecko/20110830 Thunderbird/3.1.13
While these mailers are all running on Microsoft OSes, none of them are
actual Microsoft products.
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