Motor sailers

MT
Malcolm Tennant
Mon, Aug 1, 2005 9:14 PM

Steven had enquired of Brian Eiland:-

Dear Steven,

As designers we have been involved with multihulls for more than forty
years.In that time we have designed a number of motor sailer catamarans. I
would suggest that you read the chapter on motor sailer catamarans that I
wrote in Rod Gibbons book in 1983. I have also attached an article on motor
sailers. At the least have a look at the motor sailer section of our web
site and if you have any questions do drop us an e-mail.

Regards,

Malcolm Tennant.  ARINA  MA

Malcolm Tennant Multihull Design Ltd
PO Box 60513 Titirangi,
Auckland 1007
NEW ZEALAND

ph +64 9 817 1988
fax +64 9 817 6080

e-mail malcolm@tennantdesign.co.nz
www.tennantdesign.co.nz
www.catdesigners.com

Steven had enquired of Brian Eiland:- Dear Steven, As designers we have been involved with multihulls for more than forty years.In that time we have designed a number of motor sailer catamarans. I would suggest that you read the chapter on motor sailer catamarans that I wrote in Rod Gibbons book in 1983. I have also attached an article on motor sailers. At the least have a look at the motor sailer section of our web site and if you have any questions do drop us an e-mail. Regards, Malcolm Tennant. ARINA MA Malcolm Tennant Multihull Design Ltd PO Box 60513 Titirangi, Auckland 1007 NEW ZEALAND ph +64 9 817 1988 fax +64 9 817 6080 e-mail malcolm@tennantdesign.co.nz www.tennantdesign.co.nz www.catdesigners.com
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Georgs Kolesnikovs
Tue, Aug 2, 2005 2:11 AM

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For those of you who did not receive Malcolm
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MOTOR SAILERS

"IT HAS LONG BEEN MY CONTENTION THAT, AS A MOTOR
SAILER, THE CATAMARAN HAS NO EQUAL. IT PROVIDES
THAT MOST ELUSIVE OF QUALITIES; THE BEST OF ALL
POSSIBLE WORLDS"

I wrote this back in 1983 when we were first
developing our motor sailers. However in the
intervening 22 years I have not discovered
anything to make me change my mind. What has
changed in that time is that there have been
tremendous developments in construction methods,
materials and sail handling techniques. This can
be seen in  such developments as the in the boom
roller furling and captive sheet winches. These,
coupled with the continuing computerization of a
lot of sailing functions,  today make the motor
sailer concept more viable than it has  ever been.

Of course, in the early days of the transition
from sail to power, all vessels were motor
sailers. The engines of the time were neither
powerful, nor reliable enough, to propel a vessel
unaided. The steam required by the engines was
produced by coal fired boilers and it was
difficult to carry enough coal for an extended
voyage and still leave space for a significant
amount of cargo, or a reasonable number of
passengers.

This gradually changed with the increasing
efficiency of the steam engine. And then the
advent of firstly the naptha engines, and then
petrol and diesel further hastened these changes.
All these engines gradually became more efficient
and light enough to be the sole means of
propulsion. But for many years sails were still
kept for "emergencies". Then there was also the
allure of getting "something for nothing " ie:
propulsive energy from the wind. This attribute
was, and still is; along with the not to be
overlooked "romance of sail", the major
attraction of the motor sailer.

The motor sailer usually consisted of a heavy
displacement sailing hull with large engines
installed to give better performance under power.
The heavier displacement was necessitated by the
heavier engines and the need to be able to carry
more fuel. But ultimately this approach is doomed
by Froudes law. Neither the speed/length ratio
nor the  displacement/length ratio was high
enough and the resulting vessels did not sail
particularly well and neither was their motoring
performance very efficient either. So generally
the motor sailer has, of recent years, slipped
from favour and sails are now found almost
exclusively on yachts, or occasionally, in a
steadying role on long range trawler yachts. This
is unfortunate because there have been some very
good "pilot house" cutters designed that have
quite reasonable turns of speed under power and
more than adequate sailing ability. But they did,
in the main, need to be relatively long to be
successful in both roles.

So are there other approaches to this compromised
performance problem that might give a more
satisfactory solution and allow reasonable
performance under both power and sail?

One approach has been to dynamically alter the
underwater shape of the sailing hull to produce
more power boat like hull characteristics when
motoring. The major problem with the displacement
sailing hull is that the longitudinal rocker
combined with limited speed/length ratio causes
the stern of the boat to squat under power. This
severely limits the speed that can be achieved.
However if the aft buttock lines can be
straightened out to approximate those of a
planning power boat then planning, or at least
"semi planning", may be possible. This would then
mean that higher speeds under power were
potentially achievable. This approach was tried
in the UK on a moderately sized keelboat in the
70's. Retractable planning wedges being fitted
down aft. This was reportedly reasonably
successful but this hull modification approach
does not appear to have been tried again until
very recently. Just launched at the end of last
year from the Pendennis Ship yard is "MITseaAH" a
156' luxury yacht with the naval architecture
provided by David Pedrick. That this is a very
serious attempt at designing the ultimate in
contemporary monohull motor sailers is shown by
some of its parameters. It has the afore
mentioned planning flaps down aft but it also has
retractable rudders and keel. The motive power is
provided by two 3,500hp engines driving 2 x  4
bladed 1.65m diam controllable pitch propellers
that also retract partially into tunnels when
sailing. The result of all this is that it will
motor at 20 knots. Faster than is usual for a
sailing vessel of this type. However "MITseaAH"
is a luxury vessel that is hugely complex and
enormously expensive. Given that the 20 knots
achieved is only approx 4 to 5 knots more than
the boat would have potentially been able to
achieve in normal displacement mode with that
power, on that waterline length, "MITseaAH" would
not seem to be the answer to achieving the
successful dual role that most people would be
able to afford.

In New Zealand there has recently been unveiled a
design proposal for a monohull motor sailer that
has a retractable propeller putting 800hp into
the water to achieve 20 knots under power. A huge
rig promises similar speeds under sail. This
design takes an ingenious approach to the
squatting problem. On this vessel twin
hydraulically canting rudders act as elevators to
control the trim and keep the waterline level
when under power. However while this does prevent
squatting while under way its does not change the
fundamental hydrodynamics of the displacement
hull. It still has the curved aft buttock lines
of the typical heavy displacement sailing boat.

Is it possible then to approach this from the
other direction? Rather than trying to alter the
shape of the sailing hull underway, can we fit
sails onto a power boat hull? It is possible to
fit sails to a traditional displacement power
boat hull?. We have seen that this is exactly
what was done in the early days of power.
Currently this is often done in the guise of a
steadying sail on long range cruising power
boats. But again this approach runs up against
Froudes Law which limits the performance of a
displacement hull under power and sail. However
the "traditional" way to go fast in a power boat
without it being very long is to make it
planning. So why not fit sails to a planning hull
form? This has actually been done, and very
successfully, with the 26' McGregor
"Powersailer". This vessel sails well and planes
with outboard power. However, this was a small
light displacement trailer sailer and it has
proven to be much more difficult to emulate this
feat with higher displacement vessels. The
planning hull form has not, so far, proven to be
particularly adaptable to the sailing role. This
would appear to be largely a function of the very
large immersed transom that is characteristic of
this type of hull. At sailing speeds they have
very high hull resistance and not enough speed,
or power under sail, to get onto the plane.
Consequently the sailing performance leaves a lot
to be desired.  So, is this approach of using a
powerboat hull to produce a credible motor sailer
worth pursuing?

If we look at a completely different power boat
hull form then I believe that the answer would
appear to be yes. A sailing catamaran relatively
easily achieves higher speeds, under both power
and sail, with 30 knots not being uncommon.
However, although the sailing catamaran has a
higher hull speed than a monohull, it is still
ultimately governed by Froudes Law and squatting
occurs at higher speeds under power. If squatting
occurred with the sailing catamarans at these
sorts of speeds then it obviously was going to be
worse in the case of a power boat using the
sailing catamaran hull shape. What is more the
power boat did not have the diagonal forward
loading from the rig that counteracted the
squatting to some extent in the sailing vessel.
To get around the squatting associated with these
higher speeds on a displacement hull form a hull
shape that was different to that of the normal
sailing catamaran was needed. We early reasoned
that we could minimize the squatting by careful
shaping, and placement, of the aft buoyancy. By
sweeping the hull inwards at the stern to
straighten the aft buttock lines, rather than up
to the surface in the traditional manner, we
created a fully immersed canoe stern hull with no
exposed drive train appendages such as shafts and
struts. This also resulted in a clean water flow
to the propellers. This shape was then enhanced
by then placing a flat section of hull over the
top of the fully immersed canoe stern. This did
result in an immersed transom but one of much
smaller dimensions than that found on a planning
monohull so while the increase in drag was
minimal, while the effect on squatting was
maximal. This approach to a high speed
displacement catamaran hull proved to be very
successful. So when we started looking at motor
sailers in 1983 we essentially took our power
boat hull form and fitted a rig. There was some
extra reinforcing needed to take the loads
exerted by the rig but there was very little else
to do. We knew that this hull form was capable of
more than 30 knots under power [ The 17.5m loa
Red Diamond II was clocked by NKK at 32 knots
over the measured mile] with very little change
in level trim at speed. It was really only a
question of how well would it sail. Stability was
not a problem because of the inherent high
initial stability of the catamaran configuration.
Our low wave making CS hull form, which we had
developed earlier in 1983, had shown exceptional
efficiency as a power boat and the parallel aft
buttock lines led us to expect that it would have
exceptional sailing qualities also. In practice
this has proven to be true, as this hull has
turned out to be faster than the equivalent
sailing catamaran on a reach. Windward
performance is not in the racing boat class but
is certainly better than that of most cruising
catamarans and could be further enhanced by
fitting centerboards if one wished. Of course you
could always turn the engines on!

The first boat to prove the viability of this
approach to the motor sailer was "Athenea" one of
our "Cordova" designs which has now covered more
than 100,000 nautical miles in the open ocean.
This 18m [60'] by 8.7m [28' 6"] cruising boat
does 15 to 18 knots under power from 2 x 150hp
and has sailed at more than 20 knots on many
occasions. The 16,400kg [36,155lb] displacement
encompasses an interior that would not be out of
place in a medium sized house. This house like
impression is enhanced by the use of domestic
appliances for the fridge, freeze, dishwasher,
washing machine, air conditioning and clothes
drier etc The helm is totally enclosed and the
sailing functions can all be performed from there
with the help of a couple of electric winches.
All this was achieved on a motor sailer in 1983!

Because the catamaran usually has a twin-engine
installation it leads to the possibility of some
interesting sail/motor combinations. It is
possible to set a target speed and use whichever
combination of sails and engines necessary to
maintain that speed. The owner of "Athena" set a
target speed of 12 knots. Some 20 years later he
had to admit defeat as in all that time he had
only managed to average 11.8 knots! The use of
feathering propellers minimizes drag when only
using one engine or sails only. If very long
distances are contemplated then controllable
pitch propellers are an option that might be
considered. It has been shown [on Wildwind IV]
that running on one engine with one propeller
feathered and the pitch on the other optimized
can result in a 10 to 20% reduction in fuel use
at the same speed. Of course, this also halves
the engine hours and allows maintenance to be
performed on a cold engine. It would also be
possible to completely automate the motor sailer
systems and leave them entirely under computer
control to achieve maximum efficiency at whatever
ratio of sail to power was the most efficient.
However controllable pitch propellers which would
be a necessary part of such an automated system
are expensive and their use can only be justified
if you are traveling very long distances. [Wild
Wind IV is currently approaching 30,000 nm and
Athena more than 100,000 nm]

This general approach of fitting sails to our
power catamarans can be applied to all the
various styles of our power catamarans. Provided
the required extra reinforcing is built into the
structure and it has sufficient beam to give the
required stability under sail, any of our
long-range power cats can be fitted with a rig
and achieve very respectable performance under
sail. This also means that you can motor around
quite happily without the rig if you wish. Until
such time as an exorbitant increase in the price
of fuel forces a radical rethink and the fitting
of a mast and sails. You could also of course
have the latest in "Eurostyling" in a "swept up"
catamaran such as "Pacific Harmony" that would
out perform "MITseaAH" under sail, or power, and
also offer much more interior space and comfort
for considerably less complexity and cost.

>Attachment converted: Macintosh HD:MOTOR SAILERS >for PA#1A10E4.doc (WDBN/«IC») (001A10E4) >_______________________________________________ >Power-Catamaran Mailing List For those of you who did not receive Malcolm Tennant's attachment, here is the text: MOTOR SAILERS "IT HAS LONG BEEN MY CONTENTION THAT, AS A MOTOR SAILER, THE CATAMARAN HAS NO EQUAL. IT PROVIDES THAT MOST ELUSIVE OF QUALITIES; THE BEST OF ALL POSSIBLE WORLDS" I wrote this back in 1983 when we were first developing our motor sailers. However in the intervening 22 years I have not discovered anything to make me change my mind. What has changed in that time is that there have been tremendous developments in construction methods, materials and sail handling techniques. This can be seen in such developments as the in the boom roller furling and captive sheet winches. These, coupled with the continuing computerization of a lot of sailing functions, today make the motor sailer concept more viable than it has ever been. Of course, in the early days of the transition from sail to power, all vessels were motor sailers. The engines of the time were neither powerful, nor reliable enough, to propel a vessel unaided. The steam required by the engines was produced by coal fired boilers and it was difficult to carry enough coal for an extended voyage and still leave space for a significant amount of cargo, or a reasonable number of passengers. This gradually changed with the increasing efficiency of the steam engine. And then the advent of firstly the naptha engines, and then petrol and diesel further hastened these changes. All these engines gradually became more efficient and light enough to be the sole means of propulsion. But for many years sails were still kept for "emergencies". Then there was also the allure of getting "something for nothing " ie: propulsive energy from the wind. This attribute was, and still is; along with the not to be overlooked "romance of sail", the major attraction of the motor sailer. The motor sailer usually consisted of a heavy displacement sailing hull with large engines installed to give better performance under power. The heavier displacement was necessitated by the heavier engines and the need to be able to carry more fuel. But ultimately this approach is doomed by Froudes law. Neither the speed/length ratio nor the displacement/length ratio was high enough and the resulting vessels did not sail particularly well and neither was their motoring performance very efficient either. So generally the motor sailer has, of recent years, slipped from favour and sails are now found almost exclusively on yachts, or occasionally, in a steadying role on long range trawler yachts. This is unfortunate because there have been some very good "pilot house" cutters designed that have quite reasonable turns of speed under power and more than adequate sailing ability. But they did, in the main, need to be relatively long to be successful in both roles. So are there other approaches to this compromised performance problem that might give a more satisfactory solution and allow reasonable performance under both power and sail? One approach has been to dynamically alter the underwater shape of the sailing hull to produce more power boat like hull characteristics when motoring. The major problem with the displacement sailing hull is that the longitudinal rocker combined with limited speed/length ratio causes the stern of the boat to squat under power. This severely limits the speed that can be achieved. However if the aft buttock lines can be straightened out to approximate those of a planning power boat then planning, or at least "semi planning", may be possible. This would then mean that higher speeds under power were potentially achievable. This approach was tried in the UK on a moderately sized keelboat in the 70's. Retractable planning wedges being fitted down aft. This was reportedly reasonably successful but this hull modification approach does not appear to have been tried again until very recently. Just launched at the end of last year from the Pendennis Ship yard is "MITseaAH" a 156' luxury yacht with the naval architecture provided by David Pedrick. That this is a very serious attempt at designing the ultimate in contemporary monohull motor sailers is shown by some of its parameters. It has the afore mentioned planning flaps down aft but it also has retractable rudders and keel. The motive power is provided by two 3,500hp engines driving 2 x 4 bladed 1.65m diam controllable pitch propellers that also retract partially into tunnels when sailing. The result of all this is that it will motor at 20 knots. Faster than is usual for a sailing vessel of this type. However "MITseaAH" is a luxury vessel that is hugely complex and enormously expensive. Given that the 20 knots achieved is only approx 4 to 5 knots more than the boat would have potentially been able to achieve in normal displacement mode with that power, on that waterline length, "MITseaAH" would not seem to be the answer to achieving the successful dual role that most people would be able to afford. In New Zealand there has recently been unveiled a design proposal for a monohull motor sailer that has a retractable propeller putting 800hp into the water to achieve 20 knots under power. A huge rig promises similar speeds under sail. This design takes an ingenious approach to the squatting problem. On this vessel twin hydraulically canting rudders act as elevators to control the trim and keep the waterline level when under power. However while this does prevent squatting while under way its does not change the fundamental hydrodynamics of the displacement hull. It still has the curved aft buttock lines of the typical heavy displacement sailing boat. Is it possible then to approach this from the other direction? Rather than trying to alter the shape of the sailing hull underway, can we fit sails onto a power boat hull? It is possible to fit sails to a traditional displacement power boat hull?. We have seen that this is exactly what was done in the early days of power. Currently this is often done in the guise of a steadying sail on long range cruising power boats. But again this approach runs up against Froudes Law which limits the performance of a displacement hull under power and sail. However the "traditional" way to go fast in a power boat without it being very long is to make it planning. So why not fit sails to a planning hull form? This has actually been done, and very successfully, with the 26' McGregor "Powersailer". This vessel sails well and planes with outboard power. However, this was a small light displacement trailer sailer and it has proven to be much more difficult to emulate this feat with higher displacement vessels. The planning hull form has not, so far, proven to be particularly adaptable to the sailing role. This would appear to be largely a function of the very large immersed transom that is characteristic of this type of hull. At sailing speeds they have very high hull resistance and not enough speed, or power under sail, to get onto the plane. Consequently the sailing performance leaves a lot to be desired. So, is this approach of using a powerboat hull to produce a credible motor sailer worth pursuing? If we look at a completely different power boat hull form then I believe that the answer would appear to be yes. A sailing catamaran relatively easily achieves higher speeds, under both power and sail, with 30 knots not being uncommon. However, although the sailing catamaran has a higher hull speed than a monohull, it is still ultimately governed by Froudes Law and squatting occurs at higher speeds under power. If squatting occurred with the sailing catamarans at these sorts of speeds then it obviously was going to be worse in the case of a power boat using the sailing catamaran hull shape. What is more the power boat did not have the diagonal forward loading from the rig that counteracted the squatting to some extent in the sailing vessel. To get around the squatting associated with these higher speeds on a displacement hull form a hull shape that was different to that of the normal sailing catamaran was needed. We early reasoned that we could minimize the squatting by careful shaping, and placement, of the aft buoyancy. By sweeping the hull inwards at the stern to straighten the aft buttock lines, rather than up to the surface in the traditional manner, we created a fully immersed canoe stern hull with no exposed drive train appendages such as shafts and struts. This also resulted in a clean water flow to the propellers. This shape was then enhanced by then placing a flat section of hull over the top of the fully immersed canoe stern. This did result in an immersed transom but one of much smaller dimensions than that found on a planning monohull so while the increase in drag was minimal, while the effect on squatting was maximal. This approach to a high speed displacement catamaran hull proved to be very successful. So when we started looking at motor sailers in 1983 we essentially took our power boat hull form and fitted a rig. There was some extra reinforcing needed to take the loads exerted by the rig but there was very little else to do. We knew that this hull form was capable of more than 30 knots under power [ The 17.5m loa Red Diamond II was clocked by NKK at 32 knots over the measured mile] with very little change in level trim at speed. It was really only a question of how well would it sail. Stability was not a problem because of the inherent high initial stability of the catamaran configuration. Our low wave making CS hull form, which we had developed earlier in 1983, had shown exceptional efficiency as a power boat and the parallel aft buttock lines led us to expect that it would have exceptional sailing qualities also. In practice this has proven to be true, as this hull has turned out to be faster than the equivalent sailing catamaran on a reach. Windward performance is not in the racing boat class but is certainly better than that of most cruising catamarans and could be further enhanced by fitting centerboards if one wished. Of course you could always turn the engines on! The first boat to prove the viability of this approach to the motor sailer was "Athenea" one of our "Cordova" designs which has now covered more than 100,000 nautical miles in the open ocean. This 18m [60'] by 8.7m [28' 6"] cruising boat does 15 to 18 knots under power from 2 x 150hp and has sailed at more than 20 knots on many occasions. The 16,400kg [36,155lb] displacement encompasses an interior that would not be out of place in a medium sized house. This house like impression is enhanced by the use of domestic appliances for the fridge, freeze, dishwasher, washing machine, air conditioning and clothes drier etc The helm is totally enclosed and the sailing functions can all be performed from there with the help of a couple of electric winches. All this was achieved on a motor sailer in 1983! Because the catamaran usually has a twin-engine installation it leads to the possibility of some interesting sail/motor combinations. It is possible to set a target speed and use whichever combination of sails and engines necessary to maintain that speed. The owner of "Athena" set a target speed of 12 knots. Some 20 years later he had to admit defeat as in all that time he had only managed to average 11.8 knots! The use of feathering propellers minimizes drag when only using one engine or sails only. If very long distances are contemplated then controllable pitch propellers are an option that might be considered. It has been shown [on Wildwind IV] that running on one engine with one propeller feathered and the pitch on the other optimized can result in a 10 to 20% reduction in fuel use at the same speed. Of course, this also halves the engine hours and allows maintenance to be performed on a cold engine. It would also be possible to completely automate the motor sailer systems and leave them entirely under computer control to achieve maximum efficiency at whatever ratio of sail to power was the most efficient. However controllable pitch propellers which would be a necessary part of such an automated system are expensive and their use can only be justified if you are traveling very long distances. [Wild Wind IV is currently approaching 30,000 nm and Athena more than 100,000 nm] This general approach of fitting sails to our power catamarans can be applied to all the various styles of our power catamarans. Provided the required extra reinforcing is built into the structure and it has sufficient beam to give the required stability under sail, any of our long-range power cats can be fitted with a rig and achieve very respectable performance under sail. This also means that you can motor around quite happily without the rig if you wish. Until such time as an exorbitant increase in the price of fuel forces a radical rethink and the fitting of a mast and sails. You could also of course have the latest in "Eurostyling" in a "swept up" catamaran such as "Pacific Harmony" that would out perform "MITseaAH" under sail, or power, and also offer much more interior space and comfort for considerably less complexity and cost.