Just got mine, from "Just_for_survive" on eBay. Poorest packing job I've
ever seen for an international package. Three wraps of newsprint and a
thin padded envelope. I'll know this weekend if its operational.

Steve

On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 11:14 PM, Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX N2469R wrote:

Steve will be interesting to hear how it goes. Thats a reasonable price it
seems and the antenna looks like it could handle abuse pretty well. Any
idea if its a 5 volt unit or actually any other detail?
Regards
Paul
WB8TSL

On Fri, Apr 13, 2012 at 2:39 PM, Steve Krull steve-krull@cox.net wrote:

That is the seller I got mine from. I still argee with Paul, unless you think
the seal between the two halves has been broken don't pull it apart. I'll
post the photos I took of mine. And when I get it back from being resealed
will see if it works or not  (Should have done that first .. duh).

-pete

On Fri, Apr 13, 2012 at 11:39 AM, Steve Krull steve-krull@cox.net wrote:

:-)

On Fri, Apr 13, 2012 at 3:47 PM, Pete Lancashire pete@petelancashire.comwrote:

Mine arrived in the same manner.  It works but I can't tell any real
difference between it and my 26 dB antenna, switching between them when
mounted on the corner of the roof of my workshop.

Joe

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Just got mine, from "Just_for_survive" on eBay. Poorest packing job I've
ever seen for an international package. Three wraps of newsprint and a
thin padded envelope. I'll know this weekend if its operational.

Steve

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Yes indeed I think its quite challenge to really know whats up.
Though if you have sig gen and spectrum analyzer you could come up with a
method for at least cw

On Fri, Apr 13, 2012 at 6:08 PM, J. L. Trantham jltran@att.net wrote:

You just need a spectrum analyzer. The signal source would be the birds.

I forget who claimed the GPS signals are beneath the thermal noise. I'm
quite sure I could see them on my spectrum analyzer and will check this
weekend.

These work fine if all you need is L-band:

You will find two vendors on Ebay. I think I mentioned the story before.
Just get the cheap one and check it out immediately. They have a few
hundred, so you can get a swap if it doesn't work. Expect to spend $50
to rebuild the Lion pack. Even then, the unit drains the pack in a few
days if you don't use it right away. None of the units have ethernet
unfortunately. I paid $40 more for my unit than the price listed in the
ad, and was supposed to get ethernet, but it never materialized. I'm
going to bug the guy to send me a junker unit since I paid extra and
didn't get what was advertised. The current advert doesn't mention
ethernet. I manged to get a serial port card from the vendor. It has the
ethernet traces on the PCB, but not populated.

Don't expect a lot of frequency accuracy. This is not HP. It is
technician gear.

The units are pulls from mil gear and were rack mounted at one point. No
feet, bail, or case included. Avcom still exists, but their accessories
are quite expensive.

On 4/13/2012 4:44 PM, paul swed wrote:

Exactly: I have used the network analyzer to test GPS antennae but a fixed
mechanical mounting is needed to ensure the measurement consistency.

On Sat, Apr 14, 2012 at 1:44 AM, paul swed paulswedb@gmail.com wrote:

Paul,

I believe I read in an earlier post that someone was using one of these with a Tbolt, which is 5 volts to the antenna. Hope I'm not mistaken! I didn't hear any rattles when I shook the unit so I'm keeping my fingers crossed. They do appear to be pretty rugged so I'm hoping for the best. The reply from the seller ignored my poor packing complaint and said "this is used, it can not all are the same. our guaranteed is you can ask for refund if it can not works." I assume they have a boatload of them bought very cheaply and they are playing the odds that they will make more from replacing a few that don't survive shipping than they would if they spent a bit more on packing material for all shipments.

We live in a National Historic District so no outdoor antennas here. My antennas are in the attic above the third floor, putting them about 40 ft AGL. So far the shingled roof hasn't been a major obstacle and the GPS antennas are above the HVAC ductwork. I'll see if there's any difference between this antenna and the HP that's on the Z3816 now.

73,
Steve
WB0DBS

On Apr 13, 2012, at 1:52 PM, paul swed paulswedb@gmail.com wrote:

Most of those no antenna rules can't be enforced. They can control the color of the antenna. Yes, really. For example, CONUS, you can have any number of 1 meter dishes. You might have to paint the dish.

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Paul,

I believe I read in an earlier post that someone was using one of these with a Tbolt, which is 5 volts to the antenna. Hope I'm not mistaken! I didn't hear any rattles when I shook the unit so I'm keeping my fingers crossed. They do appear to be pretty rugged so I'm hoping for the best. The reply from the seller ignored my poor packing complaint and said "this is used, it can not all are the same. our guaranteed is you can ask for refund if it can not works." I assume they have a boatload of them bought very cheaply and they are playing the odds that they will make more from replacing a few that don't survive shipping than they would if they spent a bit more on packing material for all shipments.

We live in a National Historic District so no outdoor antennas here. My antennas are in the attic above the third floor, putting them about 40 ft AGL. So far the shingled roof hasn't been a major obstacle and the GPS antennas are above the HVAC ductwork. I'll see if there's any difference between this antenna and the HP that's on the Z3816 now.

73,
Steve
WB0DBS

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