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View all threadsHello everybody,
Does anybody know what is the maximum input power level of USRP-X310 in RX
modus?
National Instrument congratulation!! very bad documentation.
Kind regards,
Arash.
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Hi Arash,
The input power is not defined by the motherboard (X310) you're using,
but by the analog frontend daughterboard (like TwinRX, UBX-160, SBX,…)
you've plugged in to these.
On 14.07.20 11:38, Arash Jafari via USRP-users wrote:
National Instrument congratulation!! very bad documentation.
…
Best regards,
Marcus Müller
On 07/14/2020 05:53 AM, Marcus Müller via USRP-users wrote:
Hi Arash,
The input power is not defined by the motherboard (X310) you're using,
but by the analog frontend daughterboard (like TwinRX, UBX-160, SBX,…)
you've plugged in to these.
For example, see the "Care and Handling" for the SBX here:
https://kb.ettus.com/SBX_Getting_Started_Guides#Proper_Care_and_Handling
And for the TwinRx
https://kb.ettus.com/TwinRX_Getting_Started_Guides#Proper_Care_and_Handling
Arash,
While Marcus’ response is certainly correct it does little in providing a practical answer to your question.
I use an X310 with TwinRX daughterboards and have found that it is inadvisable to use input levels to the TwinRX daughterboard greater than -30dBm because higher levels than that tend to result in distortion/compression issues. I don’t know what the damage threshold is for the input ports on the TwinRX daughterboard. For my radio astronomy applications I use an input level of -60dBm and that seems to work quite well for me. I don’t know if other daughterboards for the X310 have different input-level behavior. Perhaps this response will give you ball park answers that you can use.
Regards,
Joe
On Jul 14, 2020, at 3:53 AM, Marcus Müller via USRP-users usrp-users@lists.ettus.com wrote:
Hi Arash,
The input power is not defined by the motherboard (X310) you're using,
but by the analog frontend daughterboard (like TwinRX, UBX-160, SBX,…)
you've plugged in to these.
On 14.07.20 11:38, Arash Jafari via USRP-users wrote:
National Instrument congratulation!! very bad documentation.
…
Best regards,
Marcus Müller
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Arash,
Marcus L.’s response has some definitive info in the links. For example, in the TwinRX link it is stated:
Never apply more than +10 dBm of power into any RF input.
So there you have it. Thanks for the details Marcus.
Regards,
Joe
On Jul 14, 2020, at 7:55 AM, Marcus D. Leech via USRP-users usrp-users@lists.ettus.com wrote:
On 07/14/2020 05:53 AM, Marcus Müller via USRP-users wrote:
Hi Arash,
The input power is not defined by the motherboard (X310) you're using,
but by the analog frontend daughterboard (like TwinRX, UBX-160, SBX,…)
you've plugged in to these.
For example, see the "Care and Handling" for the SBX here:
https://kb.ettus.com/SBX_Getting_Started_Guides#Proper_Care_and_Handling
And for the TwinRx
https://kb.ettus.com/TwinRX_Getting_Started_Guides#Proper_Care_and_Handling
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Joe:
The input levels that cause distortion vary quite a bit from daughtercard to daughtercard, and even within a daughtercard there will be variability depending on frequency.
The performance data can be consulted for this:
https://files.ettus.com/performance_data/
What you’re looking for is IP3 and P1dB data.
But “damage limits” are given
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On Jul 14, 2020, at 10:17 AM, Joe Martin k5so@k5so.com wrote:
Arash,
Marcus L.’s response has some definitive info in the links. For example, in the TwinRX link it is stated:
Never apply more than +10 dBm of power into any RF input.
So there you have it. Thanks for the details Marcus.
Regards,
Joe
On Jul 14, 2020, at 7:55 AM, Marcus D. Leech via USRP-users usrp-users@lists.ettus.com wrote:
On 07/14/2020 05:53 AM, Marcus Müller via USRP-users wrote:
Hi Arash,
The input power is not defined by the motherboard (X310) you're using,
but by the analog frontend daughterboard (like TwinRX, UBX-160, SBX,…)
you've plugged in to these.
For example, see the "Care and Handling" for the SBX here:
https://kb.ettus.com/SBX_Getting_Started_Guides#Proper_Care_and_Handling
And for the TwinRx
https://kb.ettus.com/TwinRX_Getting_Started_Guides#Proper_Care_and_Handling
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Marcus:
Yes. Thanks. As I said.
Regards,
Joe
On Jul 14, 2020, at 8:29 AM, Marcus D Leech patchvonbraun@gmail.com wrote:
Joe:
The input levels that cause distortion vary quite a bit from daughtercard to daughtercard, and even within a daughtercard there will be variability depending on frequency.
The performance data can be consulted for this:
https://files.ettus.com/performance_data/ https://files.ettus.com/performance_data/
What you’re looking for is IP3 and P1dB data.
But “damage limits” are given
Sent from my iPhone
On Jul 14, 2020, at 10:17 AM, Joe Martin k5so@k5so.com wrote:
Arash,
Marcus L.’s response has some definitive info in the links. For example, in the TwinRX link it is stated:
Never apply more than +10 dBm of power into any RF input.
So there you have it. Thanks for the details Marcus.
Regards,
Joe
On Jul 14, 2020, at 7:55 AM, Marcus D. Leech via USRP-users <usrp-users@lists.ettus.com mailto:usrp-users@lists.ettus.com> wrote:
On 07/14/2020 05:53 AM, Marcus Müller via USRP-users wrote:
Hi Arash,
The input power is not defined by the motherboard (X310) you're using,
but by the analog frontend daughterboard (like TwinRX, UBX-160, SBX,…)
you've plugged in to these.
For example, see the "Care and Handling" for the SBX here:
https://kb.ettus.com/SBX_Getting_Started_Guides#Proper_Care_and_Handling https://kb.ettus.com/SBX_Getting_Started_Guides#Proper_Care_and_Handling
And for the TwinRx
https://kb.ettus.com/TwinRX_Getting_Started_Guides#Proper_Care_and_Handling
USRP-users mailing list
USRP-users@lists.ettus.com
http://lists.ettus.com/mailman/listinfo/usrp-users_lists.ettus.com