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Removing thermal tape residue?

JA
John Ackermann N8UR
Sat, Feb 11, 2012 4:52 PM

Is there a recommended way to remove the residue of what I presume was thermal tape on the heatsinks of my various telco Rb units?  It's a slightly tacky light greenish layer.  I'm guessing that for a permanent installation one would want to remove that residue, smooth the surface, and replace with new material for best thermal transfer to the heatsink.

John

Is there a recommended way to remove the residue of what I presume was thermal tape on the heatsinks of my various telco Rb units? It's a slightly tacky light greenish layer. I'm guessing that for a permanent installation one would want to remove that residue, smooth the surface, and replace with new material for best thermal transfer to the heatsink. John
JA
John Ackermann N8UR
Sat, Feb 11, 2012 4:56 PM

I wasn't clear below -- the residue is on the Rb exterior surface that attached to the heatsink.

On Feb 11, 2012, at 11:52 AM, John Ackermann  N8UR jra@febo.com wrote:

Is there a recommended way to remove the residue of what I presume was thermal tape on the heatsinks of my various telco Rb units?  It's a slightly tacky light greenish layer.  I'm guessing that for a permanent installation one would want to remove that residue, smooth the surface, and replace with new material for best thermal transfer to the heatsink.

John


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I wasn't clear below -- the residue is on the Rb exterior surface that attached to the heatsink. On Feb 11, 2012, at 11:52 AM, John Ackermann N8UR <jra@febo.com> wrote: > Is there a recommended way to remove the residue of what I presume was thermal tape on the heatsinks of my various telco Rb units? It's a slightly tacky light greenish layer. I'm guessing that for a permanent installation one would want to remove that residue, smooth the surface, and replace with new material for best thermal transfer to the heatsink. > > John > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there.
RK
Rob Kimberley
Sat, Feb 11, 2012 4:58 PM

John,

Have you tried anything yet? As a first pass I would try something petroleum
based to clean. I know this has worked for me in the past.

Rob Kimberley

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Subject: [time-nuts] Removing thermal tape residue?

Is there a recommended way to remove the residue of what I presume was
thermal tape on the heatsinks of my various telco Rb units?  It's a slightly
tacky light greenish layer.  I'm guessing that for a permanent installation
one would want to remove that residue, smooth the surface, and replace with
new material for best thermal transfer to the heatsink.

John


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John, Have you tried anything yet? As a first pass I would try something petroleum based to clean. I know this has worked for me in the past. Rob Kimberley -----Original Message----- From: time-nuts-bounces@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-bounces@febo.com] On Behalf Of John Ackermann N8UR Sent: 11 February 2012 16:53 To: Time-Nuts Subject: [time-nuts] Removing thermal tape residue? Is there a recommended way to remove the residue of what I presume was thermal tape on the heatsinks of my various telco Rb units? It's a slightly tacky light greenish layer. I'm guessing that for a permanent installation one would want to remove that residue, smooth the surface, and replace with new material for best thermal transfer to the heatsink. John _______________________________________________ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
AB
Azelio Boriani
Sat, Feb 11, 2012 5:03 PM

Maybe a thinner can help...

On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 5:58 PM, Rob Kimberley
robkimberley@btinternet.comwrote:

John,

Have you tried anything yet? As a first pass I would try something
petroleum
based to clean. I know this has worked for me in the past.

Rob Kimberley

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Sent: 11 February 2012 16:53
To: Time-Nuts
Subject: [time-nuts] Removing thermal tape residue?

Is there a recommended way to remove the residue of what I presume was
thermal tape on the heatsinks of my various telco Rb units?  It's a
slightly
tacky light greenish layer.  I'm guessing that for a permanent installation
one would want to remove that residue, smooth the surface, and replace with
new material for best thermal transfer to the heatsink.

John


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Maybe a thinner can help... On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 5:58 PM, Rob Kimberley <robkimberley@btinternet.com>wrote: > John, > > Have you tried anything yet? As a first pass I would try something > petroleum > based to clean. I know this has worked for me in the past. > > Rob Kimberley > > -----Original Message----- > From: time-nuts-bounces@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-bounces@febo.com] On > Behalf Of John Ackermann N8UR > Sent: 11 February 2012 16:53 > To: Time-Nuts > Subject: [time-nuts] Removing thermal tape residue? > > Is there a recommended way to remove the residue of what I presume was > thermal tape on the heatsinks of my various telco Rb units? It's a > slightly > tacky light greenish layer. I'm guessing that for a permanent installation > one would want to remove that residue, smooth the surface, and replace with > new material for best thermal transfer to the heatsink. > > John > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to > https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there. > > > > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to > https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there. >
JL
J. L. Trantham
Sat, Feb 11, 2012 5:04 PM

There is a layer like that on my LPRO-101 that I think is the 'thermal
conductor' designed to 'connect' the unit to the heat sink.

Or am I disoriented?

Joe

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Behalf Of John Ackermann N8UR
Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2012 10:53 AM
To: Time-Nuts
Subject: [time-nuts] Removing thermal tape residue?

Is there a recommended way to remove the residue of what I presume was
thermal tape on the heatsinks of my various telco Rb units?  It's a slightly
tacky light greenish layer.  I'm guessing that for a permanent installation
one would want to remove that residue, smooth the surface, and replace with
new material for best thermal transfer to the heatsink.

John


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There is a layer like that on my LPRO-101 that I think is the 'thermal conductor' designed to 'connect' the unit to the heat sink. Or am I disoriented? Joe -----Original Message----- From: time-nuts-bounces@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-bounces@febo.com] On Behalf Of John Ackermann N8UR Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2012 10:53 AM To: Time-Nuts Subject: [time-nuts] Removing thermal tape residue? Is there a recommended way to remove the residue of what I presume was thermal tape on the heatsinks of my various telco Rb units? It's a slightly tacky light greenish layer. I'm guessing that for a permanent installation one would want to remove that residue, smooth the surface, and replace with new material for best thermal transfer to the heatsink. John _______________________________________________ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
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Graham / KE9H
Sat, Feb 11, 2012 5:10 PM

John:

If it is an adhesive tape residue or just an adhesive residue, the best,
paint safe, and non-toxic remover I am aware of is "Goo-Gone."  It is
some kind
mild solvent with a lot of citrus oil in it.  Sold at grocery stores.  Since
you own a house, I would be surprised if your wife does not already
have a bottle.  It is impossible to operate a house without it.

Works extremely well on adhesive tape residue, stick-on label residue,
and windshield sticker residue.

If that doesn't work then try iso-propyl alcohol, acetone, tri-chlor, etc.
Those are more toxic, will attack plastic and paint, etc.

--- Graham / KE9H

==

On 2/11/2012 10:56 AM, John Ackermann N8UR wrote:

I wasn't clear below -- the residue is on the Rb exterior surface that attached to the heatsink.

On Feb 11, 2012, at 11:52 AM, John Ackermann  N8URjra@febo.com  wrote:

Is there a recommended way to remove the residue of what I presume was thermal tape on the heatsinks of my various telco Rb units?  It's a slightly tacky light greenish layer.  I'm guessing that for a permanent installation one would want to remove that residue, smooth the surface, and replace with new material for best thermal transfer to the heatsink.

John


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John: If it is an adhesive tape residue or just an adhesive residue, the best, paint safe, and non-toxic remover I am aware of is "Goo-Gone." It is some kind mild solvent with a lot of citrus oil in it. Sold at grocery stores. Since you own a house, I would be surprised if your wife does not already have a bottle. It is impossible to operate a house without it. Works extremely well on adhesive tape residue, stick-on label residue, and windshield sticker residue. If that doesn't work then try iso-propyl alcohol, acetone, tri-chlor, etc. Those are more toxic, will attack plastic and paint, etc. --- Graham / KE9H == On 2/11/2012 10:56 AM, John Ackermann N8UR wrote: > I wasn't clear below -- the residue is on the Rb exterior surface that attached to the heatsink. > > On Feb 11, 2012, at 11:52 AM, John Ackermann N8UR<jra@febo.com> wrote: > >> Is there a recommended way to remove the residue of what I presume was thermal tape on the heatsinks of my various telco Rb units? It's a slightly tacky light greenish layer. I'm guessing that for a permanent installation one would want to remove that residue, smooth the surface, and replace with new material for best thermal transfer to the heatsink. >> >> John >> _______________________________________________ >> time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com >> To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts >> and follow the instructions there. > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there. >
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Brian, WA1ZMS
Sat, Feb 11, 2012 5:25 PM

FWIW....I used denatured alcohol and acetone.  Just be sure to wear chemical
safe gloves and plenty of shop rags.
But it comes right off. Fumes are bad too.

Let the rags dry out before you put them in the trash.

-Brian, WA1ZMS

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Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2012 12:11 PM
To: time-nuts@febo.com
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Removing thermal tape residue?

John:

If it is an adhesive tape residue or just an adhesive residue, the best,
paint safe, and non-toxic remover I am aware of is "Goo-Gone."  It is some
kind mild solvent with a lot of citrus oil in it.  Sold at grocery stores.
Since you own a house, I would be surprised if your wife does not already
have a bottle.  It is impossible to operate a house without it.

Works extremely well on adhesive tape residue, stick-on label residue, and
windshield sticker residue.

If that doesn't work then try iso-propyl alcohol, acetone, tri-chlor, etc.
Those are more toxic, will attack plastic and paint, etc.

--- Graham / KE9H

==

On 2/11/2012 10:56 AM, John Ackermann N8UR wrote:

I wasn't clear below -- the residue is on the Rb exterior surface that

attached to the heatsink.

On Feb 11, 2012, at 11:52 AM, John Ackermann  N8URjra@febo.com  wrote:

Is there a recommended way to remove the residue of what I presume was

thermal tape on the heatsinks of my various telco Rb units?  It's a slightly
tacky light greenish layer.  I'm guessing that for a permanent installation
one would want to remove that residue, smooth the surface, and replace with
new material for best thermal transfer to the heatsink.

John


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FWIW....I used denatured alcohol and acetone. Just be sure to wear chemical safe gloves and plenty of shop rags. But it comes right off. Fumes are bad too. Let the rags dry out before you put them in the trash. -Brian, WA1ZMS -----Original Message----- From: time-nuts-bounces@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-bounces@febo.com] On Behalf Of Graham / KE9H Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2012 12:11 PM To: time-nuts@febo.com Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Removing thermal tape residue? John: If it is an adhesive tape residue or just an adhesive residue, the best, paint safe, and non-toxic remover I am aware of is "Goo-Gone." It is some kind mild solvent with a lot of citrus oil in it. Sold at grocery stores. Since you own a house, I would be surprised if your wife does not already have a bottle. It is impossible to operate a house without it. Works extremely well on adhesive tape residue, stick-on label residue, and windshield sticker residue. If that doesn't work then try iso-propyl alcohol, acetone, tri-chlor, etc. Those are more toxic, will attack plastic and paint, etc. --- Graham / KE9H == On 2/11/2012 10:56 AM, John Ackermann N8UR wrote: > I wasn't clear below -- the residue is on the Rb exterior surface that attached to the heatsink. > > On Feb 11, 2012, at 11:52 AM, John Ackermann N8UR<jra@febo.com> wrote: > >> Is there a recommended way to remove the residue of what I presume was thermal tape on the heatsinks of my various telco Rb units? It's a slightly tacky light greenish layer. I'm guessing that for a permanent installation one would want to remove that residue, smooth the surface, and replace with new material for best thermal transfer to the heatsink. >> >> John >> _______________________________________________ >> time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to >> https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts >> and follow the instructions there. > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to > https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there. > _______________________________________________ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
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Robert LaJeunesse
Sat, Feb 11, 2012 5:45 PM

I've used WD-40 to soften adhesive gunk such that a paper towel can be used to
wipe it off.


From: John Ackermann N8UR jra@febo.com
To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement time-nuts@febo.com
Cc: Time-Nuts time-nuts@febo.com
Sent: Sat, February 11, 2012 11:56:01 AM
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Removing thermal tape residue?

I wasn't clear below -- the residue is on the Rb exterior surface that attached
to the heatsink.

On Feb 11, 2012, at 11:52 AM, John Ackermann  N8UR jra@febo.com wrote:

Is there a recommended way to remove the residue of what I presume was thermal
tape on the heatsinks of my various telco Rb units?  It's a slightly tacky light
greenish layer.  I'm guessing that for a permanent installation one would want
to remove that residue, smooth the surface, and replace with new material for
best thermal transfer to the heatsink.

John

I've used WD-40 to soften adhesive gunk such that a paper towel can be used to wipe it off. ________________________________ From: John Ackermann N8UR <jra@febo.com> To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement <time-nuts@febo.com> Cc: Time-Nuts <time-nuts@febo.com> Sent: Sat, February 11, 2012 11:56:01 AM Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Removing thermal tape residue? I wasn't clear below -- the residue is on the Rb exterior surface that attached to the heatsink. On Feb 11, 2012, at 11:52 AM, John Ackermann  N8UR <jra@febo.com> wrote: > Is there a recommended way to remove the residue of what I presume was thermal >tape on the heatsinks of my various telco Rb units?  It's a slightly tacky light >greenish layer.  I'm guessing that for a permanent installation one would want >to remove that residue, smooth the surface, and replace with new material for >best thermal transfer to the heatsink. > > John
JA
John Ackermann N8UR
Sat, Feb 11, 2012 6:45 PM

Thanks, Brian.  Sounds like a plan.  I just wasn't sure if there was
anything special about the thermal material, as I've never worked with
it before.

BTW -- when you search for "thermal tape" most of the hits are for the
tiny square pads used on CPU heatsinks, but I did find one eBay seller
with 100x200mm sheets, albeit with adhesive on only one side -- check item
http://www.ebay.com/itm/320834206191?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649

John

Brian, WA1ZMS said the following on 02/11/2012 12:25 PM:

FWIW....I used denatured alcohol and acetone.  Just be sure to wear chemical
safe gloves and plenty of shop rags.
But it comes right off. Fumes are bad too.

Let the rags dry out before you put them in the trash.

-Brian, WA1ZMS

-----Original Message-----
From: time-nuts-bounces@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-bounces@febo.com] On
Behalf Of Graham / KE9H
Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2012 12:11 PM
To: time-nuts@febo.com
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Removing thermal tape residue?

John:

If it is an adhesive tape residue or just an adhesive residue, the best,
paint safe, and non-toxic remover I am aware of is "Goo-Gone."  It is some
kind mild solvent with a lot of citrus oil in it.  Sold at grocery stores.
Since you own a house, I would be surprised if your wife does not already
have a bottle.  It is impossible to operate a house without it.

Works extremely well on adhesive tape residue, stick-on label residue, and
windshield sticker residue.

If that doesn't work then try iso-propyl alcohol, acetone, tri-chlor, etc.
Those are more toxic, will attack plastic and paint, etc.

--- Graham / KE9H

==

On 2/11/2012 10:56 AM, John Ackermann N8UR wrote:

I wasn't clear below -- the residue is on the Rb exterior surface that

attached to the heatsink.

On Feb 11, 2012, at 11:52 AM, John Ackermann  N8URjra@febo.com  wrote:

Is there a recommended way to remove the residue of what I presume was

thermal tape on the heatsinks of my various telco Rb units?  It's a slightly
tacky light greenish layer.  I'm guessing that for a permanent installation
one would want to remove that residue, smooth the surface, and replace with
new material for best thermal transfer to the heatsink.

John


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Thanks, Brian. Sounds like a plan. I just wasn't sure if there was anything special about the thermal material, as I've never worked with it before. BTW -- when you search for "thermal tape" most of the hits are for the tiny square pads used on CPU heatsinks, but I did find one eBay seller with 100x200mm sheets, albeit with adhesive on only one side -- check item http://www.ebay.com/itm/320834206191?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649 John ---- Brian, WA1ZMS said the following on 02/11/2012 12:25 PM: > FWIW....I used denatured alcohol and acetone. Just be sure to wear chemical > safe gloves and plenty of shop rags. > But it comes right off. Fumes are bad too. > > Let the rags dry out before you put them in the trash. > > -Brian, WA1ZMS > > -----Original Message----- > From: time-nuts-bounces@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-bounces@febo.com] On > Behalf Of Graham / KE9H > Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2012 12:11 PM > To: time-nuts@febo.com > Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Removing thermal tape residue? > > John: > > If it is an adhesive tape residue or just an adhesive residue, the best, > paint safe, and non-toxic remover I am aware of is "Goo-Gone." It is some > kind mild solvent with a lot of citrus oil in it. Sold at grocery stores. > Since you own a house, I would be surprised if your wife does not already > have a bottle. It is impossible to operate a house without it. > > Works extremely well on adhesive tape residue, stick-on label residue, and > windshield sticker residue. > > If that doesn't work then try iso-propyl alcohol, acetone, tri-chlor, etc. > Those are more toxic, will attack plastic and paint, etc. > > --- Graham / KE9H > > == > > > On 2/11/2012 10:56 AM, John Ackermann N8UR wrote: >> I wasn't clear below -- the residue is on the Rb exterior surface that > attached to the heatsink. >> >> On Feb 11, 2012, at 11:52 AM, John Ackermann N8UR<jra@febo.com> wrote: >> >>> Is there a recommended way to remove the residue of what I presume was > thermal tape on the heatsinks of my various telco Rb units? It's a slightly > tacky light greenish layer. I'm guessing that for a permanent installation > one would want to remove that residue, smooth the surface, and replace with > new material for best thermal transfer to the heatsink. >>> >>> John >>> _______________________________________________ >>> time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to >>> https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts >>> and follow the instructions there. >> _______________________________________________ >> time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to >> https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts >> and follow the instructions there. >> > > > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to > https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there. > > > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there.
DD
Dr. David Kirkby
Sat, Feb 11, 2012 7:48 PM

On 02/11/12 04:52 PM, John Ackermann N8UR wrote:

Is there a recommended way to remove the residue of what I presume was thermal tape on the heatsinks of my various telco Rb units?  It's a slightly tacky light greenish layer.  I'm guessing that for a permanent installation one would want to remove that residue, smooth the surface, and replace with new material for best thermal transfer to the heatsink.

John

Silicon oil seems to remove that easily. I've found two recent sources of
silicon oil when I needed to do this.

  1. My mate had some with his electric shaver.
  2. Oil filled Bird dummy load.

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On 02/11/12 04:52 PM, John Ackermann N8UR wrote: > Is there a recommended way to remove the residue of what I presume was thermal tape on the heatsinks of my various telco Rb units? It's a slightly tacky light greenish layer. I'm guessing that for a permanent installation one would want to remove that residue, smooth the surface, and replace with new material for best thermal transfer to the heatsink. > > John Silicon oil seems to remove that easily. I've found two recent sources of silicon oil when I needed to do this. 1) My mate had some with his electric shaver. 2) Oil filled Bird dummy load. -- A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail?