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Tom Hitchcock

Wed, Dec 16, 2009 2:12 AM

would appreciate any suggestions on care to apply to the thin wood veneer
finish as is common on the Tiawan built trawlers of the 80's. I believe
the finish is satin varnish and is worn down and darkened in areas; will
a furniture polish like Liquid Gold work? Or is it best to sand and apply
more varnish. I'm concerned about sanding the veneer off? Tom, REPRIEVE
PT 42 Sedan

would appreciate any suggestions on care to apply to the thin wood veneer finish as is common on the Tiawan built trawlers of the 80's. I believe the finish is satin varnish and is worn down and darkened in areas; will a furniture polish like Liquid Gold work? Or is it best to sand and apply more varnish. I'm concerned about sanding the veneer off? Tom, REPRIEVE PT 42 Sedan

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Ron Rogers

Wed, Dec 16, 2009 3:15 AM

It's the darkened areas that are the problem. I'm not sure that anyone on
this list has successfully bleached these veneers back. The darkness is
usually due to water intrusion as opposed to oxidation. If you wish to match
and blend in with the existing satin varnish, I have had effortless success
with Tung oil using a rag to apply it.

Ron Rogers

-----Original Message-----
From: Tom Hitchcock
Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2009 9:12 PM

would appreciate any suggestions on care to apply to the thin wood veneer
finish as is common on the Tiawan built trawlers of the 80's. I believe
the finish is satin varnish and is worn down and darkened in areas; will
a furniture polish like Liquid Gold work? Or is it best to sand and apply
more varnish. I'm concerned about sanding the veneer off? Tom, REPRIEVE
PT 42 Sedan

It's the darkened areas that are the problem. I'm not sure that anyone on this list has successfully bleached these veneers back. The darkness is usually due to water intrusion as opposed to oxidation. If you wish to match and blend in with the existing satin varnish, I have had effortless success with Tung oil using a rag to apply it. Ron Rogers -----Original Message----- From: Tom Hitchcock Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2009 9:12 PM would appreciate any suggestions on care to apply to the thin wood veneer finish as is common on the Tiawan built trawlers of the 80's. I believe the finish is satin varnish and is worn down and darkened in areas; will a furniture polish like Liquid Gold work? Or is it best to sand and apply more varnish. I'm concerned about sanding the veneer off? Tom, REPRIEVE PT 42 Sedan

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Richard Tomkinson

Wed, Dec 16, 2009 4:23 AM

a furniture polish like Liquid Gold work? Or is it best to sand and apply
more varnish. I'm concerned about sanding the veneer off? Tom, REPRIEVE
PT 42 Sedan

I suspect you will get lots of responses on this one.
My personal regime is to use Liquid Gold. Have been using it for 24 years,
no downside so far. Once a year. Never sand. In areas that are problematic
meaning they have lost color or changed color because of moisture, clean it
as much as you can. Then use a small amount of original Cetol, yes the puky
orange one, and take a scrap piece of veneer or teak and lay down some
experimental lines with a rag and diluted Cetol (with thinner). What you are
looking for is the right dilution to come up with the color. When you have
it then try some blending (very easy). Then go for it. You only need a very
small amount of course as it is mostly thinner. Second coat is ok but you
are going for color match. Protection comes after in the form of a much
diluted varnish, then liquid Gold. All this is easy, don't worry about dry
times etc. Just go for the color. (Do not varnish or you will change the
reflectivity and have to sand.)
The result will be invisible.
Richard

> a furniture polish like Liquid Gold work? Or is it best to sand and apply > more varnish. I'm concerned about sanding the veneer off? Tom, REPRIEVE > PT 42 Sedan I suspect you will get lots of responses on this one. My personal regime is to use Liquid Gold. Have been using it for 24 years, no downside so far. Once a year. Never sand. In areas that are problematic meaning they have lost color or changed color because of moisture, clean it as much as you can. Then use a small amount of original Cetol, yes the puky orange one, and take a scrap piece of veneer or teak and lay down some experimental lines with a rag and diluted Cetol (with thinner). What you are looking for is the right dilution to come up with the color. When you have it then try some blending (very easy). Then go for it. You only need a very small amount of course as it is mostly thinner. Second coat is ok but you are going for color match. Protection comes after in the form of a much diluted varnish, then liquid Gold. All this is easy, don't worry about dry times etc. Just go for the color. (Do not varnish or you will change the reflectivity and have to sand.) The result will be invisible. Richard

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Scott H.E. Welch

Wed, Dec 16, 2009 7:25 PM

"Tom Hitchcock" tomhitch@TELESHARE.NET writes:

would appreciate any suggestions on care to apply to the thin wood veneer
finish as is common on the Tiawan built trawlers of the 80's. I believe
the finish is satin varnish and is worn down and darkened in areas; will
a furniture polish like Liquid Gold work? Or is it best to sand and apply
more varnish. I'm concerned about sanding the veneer off?

There is another solution, and it's what I did on Island Eagle. It might
sound heretical, but have you considered paint? Typically the panels are
veneer and the trim is solid wood (teak in your case, mahogany in mine). The
mahogany on IE had faded to a particularly unattractive puke-yellow. I decide
to remove the trim, paint almost all of the panels a nice white, and then
refinish and reinstall the trim. Yes, it's a different look (more
"Herreschoff" than "Taiwan Trawler") but I found that it brightened the
cabins substantially. I also painted some of the mahogany doors.

Just an idea,

Scott Welch

"Things turn out best for people who make the best of the way things turn
out." - John Wooden

"Tom Hitchcock" <tomhitch@TELESHARE.NET> writes: >would appreciate any suggestions on care to apply to the thin wood veneer >finish as is common on the Tiawan built trawlers of the 80's. I believe >the finish is satin varnish and is worn down and darkened in areas; will >a furniture polish like Liquid Gold work? Or is it best to sand and apply >more varnish. I'm concerned about sanding the veneer off? There is another solution, and it's what I did on Island Eagle. It might sound heretical, but have you considered paint? Typically the panels are veneer and the trim is solid wood (teak in your case, mahogany in mine). The mahogany on IE had faded to a particularly unattractive puke-yellow. I decide to remove the trim, paint almost all of the panels a nice white, and then refinish and reinstall the trim. Yes, it's a different look (more "Herreschoff" than "Taiwan Trawler") but I found that it brightened the cabins substantially. I also painted some of the mahogany doors. Just an idea, Scott Welch "Things turn out best for people who make the best of the way things turn out." - John Wooden

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Joel Wilkins

Wed, Dec 16, 2009 7:45 PM

Scott writes:
There is another solution, and it's what I did on Island Eagle.
It might sound heretical, but have you considered paint? ... Yes, it's a
different look (more "Herreschoff" than "Taiwan Trawler") but I found that it
brightened the cabins substantially. I also painted some of the mahogany
doors.

Reply...
The PO on my boat did precisely the same thing. Painted some,
not all, of the panels white and left the trim natural. The interior is very
bright and allows for more flexibility in other colors for upholstery etc. The
maintenance is minimal to boot. Not sure I would have had the courage to do it
myself, but I like the look.

Two votes for paint...
Joel Wilkins
m/s Miss
Magoo
Columbia 45
S. pasadena, FL

Scott writes: There is another solution, and it's what I did on Island Eagle. It might sound heretical, but have you considered paint? ... Yes, it's a different look (more "Herreschoff" than "Taiwan Trawler") but I found that it brightened the cabins substantially. I also painted some of the mahogany doors. Reply... The PO on my boat did precisely the same thing. Painted some, not all, of the panels white and left the trim natural. The interior is very bright and allows for more flexibility in other colors for upholstery etc. The maintenance is minimal to boot. Not sure I would have had the courage to do it myself, but I like the look. Two votes for paint... Joel Wilkins m/s Miss Magoo Columbia 45 S. pasadena, FL

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