Does anyone have any info on FCC I or Canadian IC certification for the B210 radio. I could not find anything on the website and support didnt offer much support on this. Please let me know if anyone has needed and found the something about this. ThanksJon

Hi Jon, we consider our devices to be test devices; and as such, we don't have an FCC ID[1]. If someone builds a product out of these, he'll need one, though. It's also pretty impossible to get an FCC ID that could produce about any signal you want, and therefore interfere with any signal it's being used to interfere with. I think this might be a business-relevant question to you. If you don't feel comfortable discussing this in public, feel free to contact us under support@ettus.com . Best regards, Marcus [1] https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/47/15.103 section (c) On 18.12.2015 17:54, jon jon via USRP-users wrote: > Does anyone have any info on FCC I or Canadian IC certification for > the B210 radio. I could not find anything on the website and support > didnt offer much support on this. Please let me know if anyone has > needed and found the something about this. > > Thanks > Jon > > > _______________________________________________ > USRP-users mailing list > USRP-users@lists.ettus.com > http://lists.ettus.com/mailman/listinfo/usrp-users_lists.ettus.com

To "amplify" on what Marcus M. is saying. There's a notion under FCC (and similar Canadian) rules about type-acceptance. Which is applied to RF transmitter products. Such type acceptance is strictly limited and defined for *a particular radio-based service and application*. A piece of gear that is type-accepted for one service (let's say, Marine VHF) cannot, generally be marketted and used in another service for which it doesnt' have type acceptance. Now an SDR isn't designed for any *particular* purpose or radio-related "service". It cannot be type-accepted as-is, since as-is it has no particular frequency range, modulation, etc, etc. Any general-purpose SDR, "out of the box" is generally considered as lab equipment--just like an RF signal generator. It isn't, legally, speaking, a "radio" until it has been type-accepted for a particular radio-based service or services. The "lab equipment" analogy is fairly strong, as well. Plenty of lab signal generators these days will modulate the signal under a number of different modulation schemes--typically for testing receivers that use those schemes.... Now, having said that, if you use your "lab equipment" in a way that interferes with a licensed radio service on an ongoing basis, you might expect to hear from the authorities, depending on the service, etc. But this is no different than using an RF signal generator in a way that interferes. On 2015-12-18 12:32, Marcus Müller via USRP-users wrote: > Hi Jon, > > we consider our devices to be test devices; and as such, we don't have an FCC ID[1]. If someone builds a product out of these, he'll need one, though. > It's also pretty impossible to get an FCC ID that could produce about any signal you want, and therefore interfere with any signal it's being used to interfere with. > > I think this might be a business-relevant question to you. If you don't feel comfortable discussing this in public, feel free to contact us under support@ettus.com . > > Best regards, > Marcus > > [1] https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/47/15.103 [2] section (c) > > On 18.12.2015 17:54, jon jon via USRP-users wrote: > >> Does anyone have any info on FCC I or Canadian IC certification for the B210 radio. I could not find anything on the website and support didnt offer much support on this. Please let me know if anyone has needed and found the something about this. >> >> Thanks >> Jon >> >> _______________________________________________ >> USRP-users mailing list >> USRP-users@lists.ettus.com >> http://lists.ettus.com/mailman/listinfo/usrp-users_lists.ettus.com [1] > > _______________________________________________ > USRP-users mailing list > USRP-users@lists.ettus.com > http://lists.ettus.com/mailman/listinfo/usrp-users_lists.ettus.com [1] Links: ------ [1] http://lists.ettus.com/mailman/listinfo/usrp-users_lists.ettus.com [2] https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/47/15.103

On Friday, December 18, 2015 12:45 PM, "mleech@ripnet.com" <mleech@ripnet.com> wrote:

Thank you for the quick responses, this helps clear things up for me.  Jon On Friday, December 18, 2015 12:45 PM, "mleech@ripnet.com" <mleech@ripnet.com> wrote: To "amplify" on what Marcus M. is saying.There's a notion under FCC (and similar Canadian) rules about type-acceptance.  Which is applied to RF transmitter products. Such type acceptance is strictly limited and defined for *a particular radio-based service and application*.  A piece of gear that is type-accepted for one service (let's say, Marine VHF) cannot, generally be marketted and used in another service for which it doesnt' have type acceptance.Now an SDR isn't designed for any *particular* purpose or radio-related "service".  It cannot be type-accepted as-is, since as-is it has no particular frequency range, modulation, etc, etc.Any general-purpose SDR, "out of the box" is generally considered as lab equipment--just like an RF signal generator.  It isn't, legally, speaking, a "radio" until it has been type-accepted for a particular radio-based service or services.   The "lab equipment" analogy is fairly strong, as well.  Plenty of lab signal generators these days will modulate the signal under a number of different modulation schemes--typically for testing receivers that use those schemes....Now, having said that, if you use your "lab equipment" in a way that interferes with a licensed radio service on an ongoing basis, you might expect to hear from the authorities, depending on the service, etc.  But this is no different than using an RF signal generator in a way that interferes.   On 2015-12-18 12:32, Marcus Müller via USRP-users wrote: Hi Jon, we consider our devices to be test devices; and as such, we don't have an FCC ID[1]. If someone builds a product out of these, he'll need one, though. It's also pretty impossible to get an FCC ID that could produce about any signal you want, and therefore interfere with any signal it's being used to interfere with. I think this might be a business-relevant question to you. If you don't feel comfortable discussing this in public, feel free to contact us under support@ettus.com . Best regards, Marcus [1] https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/47/15.103 section (c) On 18.12.2015 17:54, jon jon via USRP-users wrote: Does anyone have any info on FCC I or Canadian IC certification for the B210 radio. I could not find anything on the website and support didnt offer much support on this. Please let me know if anyone has needed and found the something about this. ThanksJon _______________________________________________ USRP-users mailing list USRP-users@lists.ettus.com http://lists.ettus.com/mailman/listinfo/usrp-users_lists.ettus.com _______________________________________________ USRP-users mailing list USRP-users@lists.ettus.com http://lists.ettus.com/mailman/listinfo/usrp-users_lists.ettus.com

Jon, The B210 in an enclosure was certified to be CE compliant. If you buy the NI-2901 (which is a B210 in the enclosure), it will have full CE labeling. Matt On Fri, Dec 18, 2015 at 8:54 AM, jon jon via USRP-users < usrp-users@lists.ettus.com> wrote: > Does anyone have any info on FCC I or Canadian IC certification for the > B210 radio. I could not find anything on the website and support didnt > offer much support on this. Please let me know if anyone has needed and > found the something about this. > > Thanks > Jon > > _______________________________________________ > USRP-users mailing list > USRP-users@lists.ettus.com > http://lists.ettus.com/mailman/listinfo/usrp-users_lists.ettus.com > >