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Walkaround deck vs. widebody

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rwp48@verizon.net
Thu, Jan 19, 2006 1:51 PM

Phil wrote "if you plan
to cruise, run, don't walk away from the wide body boats."

Oh contraire, Phil.  Our Manatee is a wide body and we find it a great
compromise in a cruising boat.  The upper deck is set up for running the boat,
even docking,  and the downstairs" is set up for living.  Actually, the
hardest thing about the wide body is planning ahead when docking, so you can
get on and off the boat.  I think the best compromise is wide body on one side
only.
Regards,
Randy Pickelmann
MORNING STAR

Phil wrote "if you plan to cruise, run, don't walk away from the wide body boats." Oh contraire, Phil. Our Manatee is a wide body and we find it a great compromise in a cruising boat. The upper deck is set up for running the boat, even docking, and the downstairs" is set up for living. Actually, the hardest thing about the wide body is planning ahead when docking, so you can get on and off the boat. I think the best compromise is wide body on one side only. Regards, Randy Pickelmann MORNING STAR
T
trawlerphil
Thu, Jan 19, 2006 2:00 PM

I looked at a 50' wide body back in the late 70s but I saw problems rafting
with other boats, docking, picking up moorings and picking up things dropped
overboard (including people).  Admittedly, I single hand my boat a lot so
the walk-around is more essential.

                                      Regards....

Phil Rosch

Old Harbor Consulting

M/V "Curmudgeon" MT44 TC

Currently lying Bond Creek, NC

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Subject: Walkaround deck vs. widebody

Phil wrote "if you plan
to cruise, run, don't walk away from the wide body boats."

Oh contraire, Phil.  Our Manatee is a wide body and we find it a great
compromise in a cruising boat.  The upper deck is set up for running the
boat, even docking,  and the downstairs" is set up for living.  Actually,
the hardest thing about the wide body is planning ahead when docking, so you
can get on and off the boat.  I think the best compromise is wide body on
one side only.

Regards,

Randy Pickelmann

MORNING STAR

I looked at a 50' wide body back in the late 70s but I saw problems rafting with other boats, docking, picking up moorings and picking up things dropped overboard (including people). Admittedly, I single hand my boat a lot so the walk-around is more essential. Regards.... Phil Rosch Old Harbor Consulting M/V "Curmudgeon" MT44 TC Currently lying Bond Creek, NC -----Original Message----- From: rwp48@verizon.net [mailto:rwp48@verizon.net] Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 8:51 AM To: trawlers-and-trawlering@lists.samurai.com Cc: trawlerphil@earthlink.net Subject: Walkaround deck vs. widebody Phil wrote "if you plan to cruise, run, don't walk away from the wide body boats." Oh contraire, Phil. Our Manatee is a wide body and we find it a great compromise in a cruising boat. The upper deck is set up for running the boat, even docking, and the downstairs" is set up for living. Actually, the hardest thing about the wide body is planning ahead when docking, so you can get on and off the boat. I think the best compromise is wide body on one side only. Regards, Randy Pickelmann MORNING STAR
JF
John Ford
Thu, Jan 19, 2006 2:36 PM

Were getting a new KK44 with the wide body option  The boat we are picking up is one that owner financing fell through on so our only other choice was to order one and wait.

My thoughts echo many of those heard here.. I think you have to still look at your accessibility for getting off onto the finger piers, pilings for tying up etc..  I know the whaleback had cleats up on top that you could tie up with at least temporarily.  I really don't know if the KK44 has cleats up on top but that would be nice..  The KK44's wide body option leaves a walk around on one side and on the other there is not even a little perch for you stand on at all.  I'm just trying to figure out how I'm going to clean those windows or really wash that side of the boat..  I GUESS I could turn the boat around so I can stand on the finger but thats kind of a pain in the.. Well you know..

But on the positive sides.. I have a nephew who is handicapped and is pretty much bound to a chair.  The KK44 has a double door in the back and the added room(about 2 ft) I believe will allow him to be on the boat and not feel like he's in the way.  A couple of shelves turn into bars which is always nice and now there are some nice steps to walk up to go from the pilot house to up top.  So I guess you have to take your situation into consideration when making the decision..

John

Were getting a new KK44 with the wide body option The boat we are picking up is one that owner financing fell through on so our only other choice was to order one and wait. My thoughts echo many of those heard here.. I think you have to still look at your accessibility for getting off onto the finger piers, pilings for tying up etc.. I know the whaleback had cleats up on top that you could tie up with at least temporarily. I really don't know if the KK44 has cleats up on top but that would be nice.. The KK44's wide body option leaves a walk around on one side and on the other there is not even a little perch for you stand on at all. I'm just trying to figure out how I'm going to clean those windows or really wash that side of the boat.. I GUESS I could turn the boat around so I can stand on the finger but thats kind of a pain in the.. Well you know.. But on the positive sides.. I have a nephew who is handicapped and is pretty much bound to a chair. The KK44 has a double door in the back and the added room(about 2 ft) I believe will allow him to be on the boat and not feel like he's in the way. A couple of shelves turn into bars which is always nice and now there are some nice steps to walk up to go from the pilot house to up top. So I guess you have to take your situation into consideration when making the decision.. John
RC
R C Smith Jr
Thu, Jan 19, 2006 3:29 PM

On 1/19/06 8:51 AM, "rwp48@verizon.net" rwp48@verizon.net wrote:

Our Manatee is a wide body and we find it a great
compromise in a cruising boat.  The upper deck is set up for running the boat,
even docking,  and the downstairs" is set up for living.

Mr. Krogen, bless his liveaboard soul, designed both the Manatee and the
Whaleback to handle docking from the top deck, complete with cleats
everywhere. Art Kadey pushed his rag-hauling partner to create some
interesting designs...not always successfully.

Bob


Robert Calhoun Smith Jr
M/V MARY KATHRYN
Hatteras 58 LRC
The Jib Room
Marsh Harbour, Abaco
BAHAMAS

On 1/19/06 8:51 AM, "rwp48@verizon.net" <rwp48@verizon.net> wrote: > Our Manatee is a wide body and we find it a great > compromise in a cruising boat. The upper deck is set up for running the boat, > even docking, and the downstairs" is set up for living. Mr. Krogen, bless his liveaboard soul, designed both the Manatee and the Whaleback to handle docking from the top deck, complete with cleats everywhere. Art Kadey pushed his rag-hauling partner to create some interesting designs...not always successfully. Bob ________________ Robert Calhoun Smith Jr M/V MARY KATHRYN Hatteras 58 LRC The Jib Room Marsh Harbour, Abaco BAHAMAS