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GYMKIDD319@aol.com
Mon, Nov 25, 2002 4:46 PM

After I added an aluminum radar arch, I felt a bit more vulnerable to
lightning strikes. I think I added a simple, inexpensive measure of
protection. Here it is:

I bought a pointed aluminum spike (West Marine, I think) with base and added
a three foot threaded rod all of which is bolted to the top of the arch.
(It's supposed to dissipate static buildup. Another type is like a bristle
brush pointing skyward.)

I drilled a 3/8" hole in  one base leg and added a bolt and nut plus a
wingnut. A 12 foot length of #4 battery cable was fitted soldered with
connectors at each end and a big zinc fastened to one end.
When bad lightning approaches, I just fasten the wire to the wing nut and
drop the big zinc overboard. This can be left in place while at anchor or
dockside.

I chose this, admittedly not perfect solution, because I did not want to lead
possible  lightning anywhere inside my boat.

Rob Brueckner

After I added an aluminum radar arch, I felt a bit more vulnerable to lightning strikes. I think I added a simple, inexpensive measure of protection. Here it is: I bought a pointed aluminum spike (West Marine, I think) with base and added a three foot threaded rod all of which is bolted to the top of the arch. (It's supposed to dissipate static buildup. Another type is like a bristle brush pointing skyward.) I drilled a 3/8" hole in one base leg and added a bolt and nut plus a wingnut. A 12 foot length of #4 battery cable was fitted soldered with connectors at each end and a big zinc fastened to one end. When bad lightning approaches, I just fasten the wire to the wing nut and drop the big zinc overboard. This can be left in place while at anchor or dockside. I chose this, admittedly not perfect solution, because I did not want to lead possible lightning anywhere inside my boat. Rob Brueckner
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Keith
Mon, Nov 25, 2002 5:25 PM

I did pretty much what you did, except my water terminal is a sheet of
copper cut inward all along the edges to make a lot of edge surface. The
lightning dissipates along the edges, not the flat faces of conductors.
Of course, the whole idea of lightning "protection" is iffy at best if
you get a direct hit. Anyway, "I" feel better with it in the water! By
the way, those bottle brush dissipators have been tested and shown to be
essentially ineffective. I can provide the links if anyone is
interested.

GYMKIDD319@aol.com wrote:

After I added an aluminum radar arch, I felt a bit more vulnerable to
lightning strikes. I think I added a simple, inexpensive measure of
protection. Here it is:

I bought a pointed aluminum spike (West Marine, I think) with base and added
a three foot threaded rod all of which is bolted to the top of the arch.

I drilled a 3/8" hole in  one base leg and added a bolt and nut plus a
wingnut. A 12 foot length of #4 battery cable was fitted soldered with
connectors at each end and a big zinc fastened to one end.

<snip>

--


Keith
If at first you don't succeed, try management.

I did pretty much what you did, except my water terminal is a sheet of copper cut inward all along the edges to make a lot of edge surface. The lightning dissipates along the edges, not the flat faces of conductors. Of course, the whole idea of lightning "protection" is iffy at best if you get a direct hit. Anyway, "I" feel better with it in the water! By the way, those bottle brush dissipators have been tested and shown to be essentially ineffective. I can provide the links if anyone is interested. GYMKIDD319@aol.com wrote: > > After I added an aluminum radar arch, I felt a bit more vulnerable to > lightning strikes. I think I added a simple, inexpensive measure of > protection. Here it is: > > I bought a pointed aluminum spike (West Marine, I think) with base and added > a three foot threaded rod all of which is bolted to the top of the arch. > I drilled a 3/8" hole in one base leg and added a bolt and nut plus a > wingnut. A 12 foot length of #4 battery cable was fitted soldered with > connectors at each end and a big zinc fastened to one end. <snip> -- __________________ Keith If at first you don't succeed, try management.
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Michael Schooley
Tue, Nov 26, 2002 6:50 AM

I really don't have time to reply to this, but I think this advise is
dangerous, albeit good intentioned.

Rob Brueckner wrote, "I bought a pointed aluminum spike (West Marine, I
think) with base and added a three foot threaded rod all of which is
bolted to the top of the arch. (It's supposed to dissipate static
buildup. Another type is like a bristle brush pointing skyward.)"

Dr. Ewen M. Thomson is the most knowledgeable authority that I know of.
He has an excellent web site at
http://www.thomson.ece.ufl.edu/lightning/ His section on air terminals
at http://www.thomson.ece.ufl.edu/lightning/AirTerminals.html reads, "
Sharp or blunt?  Almost every lightning air terminal you are likely to
see has a sharp point.  The theory behind this was that a sharp point
causes the largest electric field and hence is more likely to launch the
attachment spark.  However, recent research indicates that blunt rods
are more effective in this task..."

Rob Brueckner wrote, "I drilled a 3/8" hole in  one base leg and added a
bolt and nut plus a wingnut. A 12 foot length of #4 battery cable was
fitted soldered with connectors at each end and a big zinc fastened to
one end. When bad lightning approaches, I just fasten the wire to the
wing nut and drop the big zinc overboard. This can be left in place
while at anchor or dockside."

In Dr. Ewen M. Thomson's presentation at Melbourne Trawlerfest, he
indicated that the charger front of a thunderhead extends many miles
ahead of the thunder cloud itself and that by the time that most people
realize that they are in danged of a lightening strike, the risks are
already quite high. The worst thing you can do at this point is connect
a "protection" system.

Dr. Ewen M. Thomson also pointed out the case studies show of lightening
strikes reveal that the conventional wisdom of connecting your
lightening ground to the keel isn't adequate or even beneficial.
Lightening is attracted to the surface charge and ground should be at
the waterline.

The best protection from lightening strikes is a metal hull. I don't
understand why metal hull boats aren't more popular in the high
lightening frequency areas.

Regards;
Mike Schooley
Designing "Portager" a 36' trailerable trawler
www.portager.info

I really don't have time to reply to this, but I think this advise is dangerous, albeit good intentioned. Rob Brueckner wrote, "I bought a pointed aluminum spike (West Marine, I think) with base and added a three foot threaded rod all of which is bolted to the top of the arch. (It's supposed to dissipate static buildup. Another type is like a bristle brush pointing skyward.)" Dr. Ewen M. Thomson is the most knowledgeable authority that I know of. He has an excellent web site at http://www.thomson.ece.ufl.edu/lightning/ His section on air terminals at http://www.thomson.ece.ufl.edu/lightning/AirTerminals.html reads, " Sharp or blunt? Almost every lightning air terminal you are likely to see has a sharp point. The theory behind this was that a sharp point causes the largest electric field and hence is more likely to launch the attachment spark. However, recent research indicates that blunt rods are more effective in this task..." Rob Brueckner wrote, "I drilled a 3/8" hole in one base leg and added a bolt and nut plus a wingnut. A 12 foot length of #4 battery cable was fitted soldered with connectors at each end and a big zinc fastened to one end. When bad lightning approaches, I just fasten the wire to the wing nut and drop the big zinc overboard. This can be left in place while at anchor or dockside." In Dr. Ewen M. Thomson's presentation at Melbourne Trawlerfest, he indicated that the charger front of a thunderhead extends many miles ahead of the thunder cloud itself and that by the time that most people realize that they are in danged of a lightening strike, the risks are already quite high. The worst thing you can do at this point is connect a "protection" system. Dr. Ewen M. Thomson also pointed out the case studies show of lightening strikes reveal that the conventional wisdom of connecting your lightening ground to the keel isn't adequate or even beneficial. Lightening is attracted to the surface charge and ground should be at the waterline. The best protection from lightening strikes is a metal hull. I don't understand why metal hull boats aren't more popular in the high lightening frequency areas. Regards; Mike Schooley Designing "Portager" a 36' trailerable trawler www.portager.info
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Bob McLeran
Tue, Nov 26, 2002 3:15 PM

If we're looking at the easiest versus the most difficult, I'd have to
say that the easiest lightning protection I've found is to be wedgied
between two really big sailboats in a marina full of sailboats.

At 01:50 AM 11/26/2002, Michael Schooley wrote:

I really don't have time to reply to this, but I think this advise is
dangerous, albeit good intentioned.

Rob Brueckner wrote, "I bought a pointed aluminum spike (West Marine, I
think) with base and added a three foot threaded rod all of which is
bolted to the top of the arch. (It's supposed to dissipate static
buildup. Another type is like a bristle brush pointing skyward.)"

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Bob McLeran      Email: mailto:rmcleran@ix.netcom.com
M/V Sanderling  At new home in Manatee Cove Marina, Patrick Air Force Base
Hampton 35 Trawler      Melbourne, Florida

If we're looking at the _easiest_ versus the most difficult, I'd have to say that the _easiest_ lightning protection I've found is to be wedgied between two really big sailboats in a marina full of sailboats. At 01:50 AM 11/26/2002, Michael Schooley wrote: >I really don't have time to reply to this, but I think this advise is >dangerous, albeit good intentioned. > >Rob Brueckner wrote, "I bought a pointed aluminum spike (West Marine, I >think) with base and added a three foot threaded rod all of which is >bolted to the top of the arch. (It's supposed to dissipate static >buildup. Another type is like a bristle brush pointing skyward.)" <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> Bob McLeran Email: mailto:rmcleran@ix.netcom.com M/V Sanderling At new home in Manatee Cove Marina, Patrick Air Force Base Hampton 35 Trawler Melbourne, Florida
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Ted & Sally
Tue, Nov 26, 2002 8:34 PM

In an earlier life, as an electrical engineer for an electric utility, I
used to oversee lightening protection design for our facilities. Back then,
there was a common rule of thumb: A lightening rod will protect a 30 degree
cone around it. Two adjacent rods will protect a 60 deg angle between them,
and 30 deg on the outside.

I get a real kick out of sone of these two foot lightening rods on barns.
They are only protecting a couple feet of the barn.

There are now more sophisticated techniques based on a sphere rolling above
the protrusions being protected, but that discussion would be over sharing!

Lightening protection is very much an art.

Ted Grave
GB32, AMICI
Branford, CT

In an earlier life, as an electrical engineer for an electric utility, I used to oversee lightening protection design for our facilities. Back then, there was a common rule of thumb: A lightening rod will protect a 30 degree cone around it. Two adjacent rods will protect a 60 deg angle between them, and 30 deg on the outside. I get a real kick out of sone of these two foot lightening rods on barns. They are only protecting a couple feet of the barn. There are now more sophisticated techniques based on a sphere rolling above the protrusions being protected, but that discussion would be over sharing! Lightening protection is very much an art. Ted Grave GB32, AMICI Branford, CT