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Re: [time-nuts] Lucent KS-24361, HP/Symmetricom Z3809A, Z3810A, Z3811A, Z3812...

HM
Hal Murray
Sun, Nov 2, 2014 8:17 PM

By the way the z3801 is off most of the year so the drains quite small.

I think that's backwards.  The battery is only used when there is no power to
the GPS module.

AAs are roughly 2800 mA hours.  There are 8760 hours in a year.  That's 319
microamp years.  (How's that for a SI unit?)  So that's 3 years if your GPS
module takes 100 uA.  I think that's way high.  Anybody measured it?  There
is probably a strong temperature component.

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> By the way the z3801 is off most of the year so the drains quite small. I think that's backwards. The battery is only used when there is no power to the GPS module. AAs are roughly 2800 mA hours. There are 8760 hours in a year. That's 319 microamp years. (How's that for a SI unit?) So that's 3 years if your GPS module takes 100 uA. I think that's way high. Anybody measured it? There is probably a strong temperature component. -- These are my opinions. I hate spam.
BC
Bob Camp
Sun, Nov 2, 2014 8:35 PM

Hi

The numbers quoted earlier (and they sound right) were 20 uA at 2.5V. That would be well under your 100uA. My guess is that self discharge / aging on a normal AA is going to limit things faster than a 20 uA drain.

Now, if you have the more normal tiny coin cell involved with  1/10 or 1/100 that capacity and much lower self discharge ….

Bob

On Nov 2, 2014, at 3:17 PM, Hal Murray hmurray@megapathdsl.net wrote:

By the way the z3801 is off most of the year so the drains quite small.

I think that's backwards.  The battery is only used when there is no power to
the GPS module.

AAs are roughly 2800 mA hours.  There are 8760 hours in a year.  That's 319
microamp years.  (How's that for a SI unit?)  So that's 3 years if your GPS
module takes 100 uA.  I think that's way high.  Anybody measured it?  There
is probably a strong temperature component.

--
These are my opinions.  I hate spam.


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Hi The numbers quoted earlier (and they sound right) were 20 uA at 2.5V. That would be well under your 100uA. My *guess* is that self discharge / aging on a normal AA is going to limit things faster than a 20 uA drain. Now, if you have the more normal tiny coin cell involved with 1/10 or 1/100 that capacity and much lower self discharge …. Bob > On Nov 2, 2014, at 3:17 PM, Hal Murray <hmurray@megapathdsl.net> wrote: > >> By the way the z3801 is off most of the year so the drains quite small. > > I think that's backwards. The battery is only used when there is no power to > the GPS module. > > AAs are roughly 2800 mA hours. There are 8760 hours in a year. That's 319 > microamp years. (How's that for a SI unit?) So that's 3 years if your GPS > module takes 100 uA. I think that's way high. Anybody measured it? There > is probably a strong temperature component. > > > -- > These are my opinions. I hate spam. > > > > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there.