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Michael Maurice
Mon, Jun 10, 2002 10:13 PM

Capt. Mike Maurice
Near Portland Oregon.

Capt. Mike Maurice Near Portland Oregon.
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Dan Symula
Tue, Jun 11, 2002 2:10 AM

My dinghy is a caribe. Nearly exactly where I need to
put the weaver pad, there is a piece of material that
says "Caribe" on it. Putting the pad on over this
would result in a half on half off the "Caribe" thing.
I suspect there would be a wrinkle of some sort where
the "caribe" material ended.  I think to be safe I
should remove it. Now the question begins as to how. I
cant just peel if off. Its not a decal and is attached
the same way the rest of the boat is. I think it is
glue of some sort. Any suggestions as to how to remove
this?

What a pain in the dupa this dinghy thing turned out
to be. I also nearly killed my back lifting off the
engine from the dinghy and putting it back on again.
No thanks. Ill get a mount from West to enable me to
keep the engine on the dinghy. not worth the back
pain. take heed anyone listening.

One last thing while Im asking. What size drill bit
did those of you who installed use to drill into your
swim platform?
Dan

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My dinghy is a caribe. Nearly exactly where I need to put the weaver pad, there is a piece of material that says "Caribe" on it. Putting the pad on over this would result in a half on half off the "Caribe" thing. I suspect there would be a wrinkle of some sort where the "caribe" material ended. I think to be safe I should remove it. Now the question begins as to how. I cant just peel if off. Its not a decal and is attached the same way the rest of the boat is. I think it is glue of some sort. Any suggestions as to how to remove this? What a pain in the dupa this dinghy thing turned out to be. I also nearly killed my back lifting off the engine from the dinghy and putting it back on again. No thanks. Ill get a mount from West to enable me to keep the engine on the dinghy. not worth the back pain. take heed anyone listening. One last thing while Im asking. What size drill bit did those of you who installed use to drill into your swim platform? Dan ===== __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com
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John & Kathleen
Tue, Jun 11, 2002 3:13 AM

Hi Dan,

----- Original Message -----
From: Dan Symula adventuresoul@yahoo.com
Subject: TWL: More on Dinghy Davits

My dinghy is a caribe. Nearly exactly where I need to
put the weaver pad, there is a piece of material that
says "Caribe" on it. Putting the pad on over this
would result in a half on half off the "Caribe" thing.
I suspect there would be a wrinkle of some sort where
the "caribe" material ended.  I think to be safe I
should remove it.

Some of the e-pics I sent may show that I have a pad over the "Zodiac" name
pad. It works just fine, with no wrinkles. I wouldn't even try to peel off
the Caribe pad.

What a pain in the dupa this dinghy thing turned out
to be. I also nearly killed my back lifting off the
engine from the dinghy and putting it back on again.
No thanks. Ill get a mount from West to enable me to
keep the engine on the dinghy. not worth the back
pain. take heed anyone listening.

You'll never regret the swivel mount I have from West Marine. I can tilt the
motor to 45 degrees in seconds, and then forget it's even on the dinghy.

One last thing while Im asking. What size drill bit
did those of you who installed use to drill into your
swim platform?

The size of the drill bit will depend on the diameter of your bolts which is
determined by the holes in the davit plates. I think the max bolts you can
use is 3/8". One hint - use a drill press to drill the wood spacers if you
are using them and then use the blocks as a template to drill through the
swim platform. If you don't,  you'll have a hard time keeping everything
perfectly in line. If the holes are not aligned properly, it's a son of a
gun to get 5" or 6" bolts through the davits, the blocks, and the swim
platform!

Good luck. It's worth it in the end!

Regards,

John Garrison
"Just Keel-ing Time"
Lake Norman, NC

Hi Dan, ----- Original Message ----- From: Dan Symula <adventuresoul@yahoo.com> Subject: TWL: More on Dinghy Davits > My dinghy is a caribe. Nearly exactly where I need to > put the weaver pad, there is a piece of material that > says "Caribe" on it. Putting the pad on over this > would result in a half on half off the "Caribe" thing. > I suspect there would be a wrinkle of some sort where > the "caribe" material ended. I think to be safe I > should remove it. Some of the e-pics I sent may show that I have a pad over the "Zodiac" name pad. It works just fine, with no wrinkles. I wouldn't even try to peel off the Caribe pad. > What a pain in the dupa this dinghy thing turned out > to be. I also nearly killed my back lifting off the > engine from the dinghy and putting it back on again. > No thanks. Ill get a mount from West to enable me to > keep the engine on the dinghy. not worth the back > pain. take heed anyone listening. You'll never regret the swivel mount I have from West Marine. I can tilt the motor to 45 degrees in seconds, and then forget it's even on the dinghy. > One last thing while Im asking. What size drill bit > did those of you who installed use to drill into your > swim platform? The size of the drill bit will depend on the diameter of your bolts which is determined by the holes in the davit plates. I think the max bolts you can use is 3/8". One hint - use a drill press to drill the wood spacers if you are using them and then use the blocks as a template to drill through the swim platform. If you don't, you'll have a hard time keeping everything perfectly in line. If the holes are not aligned properly, it's a son of a gun to get 5" or 6" bolts through the davits, the blocks, and the swim platform! Good luck. It's worth it in the end! Regards, John Garrison "Just Keel-ing Time" Lake Norman, NC
CC
Charles Culotta
Tue, Jun 11, 2002 6:35 PM

My dinghy is a caribe. Nearly exactly where I need to
put the weaver pad, there is a piece of material that
says "Caribe" on it. Putting the pad on over this
would result in a half on half off the

Dan ,
Been there done that.
I talked to Avon and Weaver.
The pad must come off.  I used a hair dryer and  acetone.
You  MUST keep away from the seams as this will open them. I masked the
area with duct tape and card board.
Then  I gently heated the appliqui and got it off. This takes an hour or
more--- after you get it all prepared. You will need VICE GRIPS to pull on
the appliqui-- pliers are too tiring on your hand.
I chose not to use a heat gun as it gets too hot.
Just be real careful.
Yes it is a pain.
NOTE, MY 15 HP engine combined with the wt. of the RIB  seems to me too
much resting on one pontoon.  As a result I feel compelled to remove the
engine before swinging it up. I don't recall if you have an RIB or std.
bottom.
CCC

LETS ROLL
Charles and Pat Culotta
Patterson,La.
Web Page: http://www.geocities.com/charlesculotta/

> My dinghy is a caribe. Nearly exactly where I need to > put the weaver pad, there is a piece of material that > says "Caribe" on it. Putting the pad on over this > would result in a half on half off the Dan , Been there done that. I talked to Avon and Weaver. The pad must come off. I used a hair dryer and acetone. You MUST keep away from the seams as this will open them. I masked the area with duct tape and card board. Then I gently heated the appliqui and got it off. This takes an hour or more--- after you get it all prepared. You will need VICE GRIPS to pull on the appliqui-- pliers are too tiring on your hand. I chose not to use a heat gun as it gets too hot. Just be real careful. Yes it is a pain. NOTE, MY 15 HP engine combined with the wt. of the RIB seems to me too much resting on one pontoon. As a result I feel compelled to remove the engine before swinging it up. I don't recall if you have an RIB or std. bottom. CCC LETS ROLL Charles and Pat Culotta Patterson,La. Web Page: http://www.geocities.com/charlesculotta/
DS
Dan Symula
Tue, Jun 11, 2002 6:51 PM

Dan ,
Been there done that.
I talked to Avon and Weaver.
The pad must come off.  I used a hair dryer and
acetone.
You  MUST keep away from the seams as this will
open them. I masked the
area with duct tape and card board.
Then  I gently heated the appliqui and got it off.
This takes an hour or
more--- after you get it all prepared. You will need
VICE GRIPS to pull on
the appliqui-- pliers are too tiring on your hand.
I chose not to use a heat gun as it gets too hot.
Just be real careful.
Yes it is a pain.
NOTE, MY 15 HP engine combined with the wt. of the
RIB  seems to me too
much resting on one pontoon.  As a result I feel
compelled to remove the
engine before swinging it up. I don't recall if you
have an RIB or std.
bottom.
CCC

thanks for the info. I have a hard bottom and 10 hp
suzuki. A little less weight than your 15 maybe. Im
going to try and see how it goes for weight. If I have
to remove it, Im open for suggestions on how to remove
it mechanically, NOT human power.

dan

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> Dan , > Been there done that. > I talked to Avon and Weaver. > The pad must come off. I used a hair dryer and > acetone. > You MUST keep away from the seams as this will > open them. I masked the > area with duct tape and card board. > Then I gently heated the appliqui and got it off. > This takes an hour or > more--- after you get it all prepared. You will need > VICE GRIPS to pull on > the appliqui-- pliers are too tiring on your hand. > I chose not to use a heat gun as it gets too hot. > Just be real careful. > Yes it is a pain. > NOTE, MY 15 HP engine combined with the wt. of the > RIB seems to me too > much resting on one pontoon. As a result I feel > compelled to remove the > engine before swinging it up. I don't recall if you > have an RIB or std. > bottom. > CCC thanks for the info. I have a hard bottom and 10 hp suzuki. A little less weight than your 15 maybe. Im going to try and see how it goes for weight. If I have to remove it, Im open for suggestions on how to remove it mechanically, NOT human power. dan ===== __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com
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Dan Symula
Tue, Jun 11, 2002 8:26 PM

Im amazed. I was able to take off the entire "Caribe"
thing simply with a pair of plyers and a small amount
of pull. No heat needed.  I had started to apply heat
and had it all taped off, thinking it was going to be
a crazy job. It makes me nervous, as if the rest of
the boat is held together like this.... Of course I
did wait until the sun was its hotest and quite warm
outside.

Strange though. There was an outer piece with
lettering cut out of it to spell Caribe. Then, there
were individual letters glued into these cutouts. But
at any rate, its all off except the black crud
underneath. time to acetone,mark ,glue, and drill. Im
gaining on it!

Dan

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Im amazed. I was able to take off the entire "Caribe" thing simply with a pair of plyers and a small amount of pull. No heat needed. I had started to apply heat and had it all taped off, thinking it was going to be a crazy job. It makes me nervous, as if the rest of the boat is held together like this.... Of course I did wait until the sun was its hotest and quite warm outside. Strange though. There was an outer piece with lettering cut out of it to spell Caribe. Then, there were individual letters glued into these cutouts. But at any rate, its all off except the black crud underneath. time to acetone,mark ,glue, and drill. Im gaining on it! Dan ===== __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com
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John & Kathleen
Tue, Jun 11, 2002 8:49 PM

Hi Dan,

I'm glad you disregarded my advice to simply apply the pad over the "Caribe"
thing! I should have emphasized that my "Zodiac" thing is the same material
and adhesive as the rest of the dinghy, and Weaver said to just apply the
pad over top of it. The dangers of my using too little information to
advise.

Sounds like you really are gaining on it.

Re: the swivel for the outboard: My dinghy is a 10'6" Zodiac with a plywood
floor, but not a rigid bottom. The outboard is a 15 HP OMC that weighs the
same as a 9 HP OMC. With the motor (75 lb.), the dinghy (80 lb.) and the
v-tank (45 lb.), the anchor (5 lb.) and the swivel mount (perhaps 3 lb.),
I'm putting about 210 lbs. on the pontoon when the dinghy is upright. I
haven't noticed any problems yet (two years of cruising). Your mileage may
vary, but for ease of handling, I wouldn't have it any other way. However,
as my pics show, the stern pad is right in line with the transom of the
dinghy, where most of the weight is.

Regards,

John

----- Original Message -----
From: Dan Symula adventuresoul@yahoo.com
To: trawler-world-list@samurai.com
Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2002 4:26 PM
Subject: Re: TWL: Re: More on Dinghy Davits

Im amazed. I was able to take off the entire "Caribe"
thing simply with a pair of plyers and a small amount
of pull. No heat needed.  I had started to apply heat
and had it all taped off, thinking it was going to be
a crazy job. It makes me nervous, as if the rest of
the boat is held together like this.... Of course I
did wait until the sun was its hotest and quite warm
outside.

Strange though. There was an outer piece with
lettering cut out of it to spell Caribe. Then, there
were individual letters glued into these cutouts. But
at any rate, its all off except the black crud
underneath. time to acetone,mark ,glue, and drill. Im
gaining on it!

Dan

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Hi Dan, I'm glad you disregarded my advice to simply apply the pad over the "Caribe" thing! I should have emphasized that my "Zodiac" thing is the same material and adhesive as the rest of the dinghy, and Weaver said to just apply the pad over top of it. The dangers of my using too little information to advise. Sounds like you really are gaining on it. Re: the swivel for the outboard: My dinghy is a 10'6" Zodiac with a plywood floor, but not a rigid bottom. The outboard is a 15 HP OMC that weighs the same as a 9 HP OMC. With the motor (75 lb.), the dinghy (80 lb.) and the v-tank (45 lb.), the anchor (5 lb.) and the swivel mount (perhaps 3 lb.), I'm putting about 210 lbs. on the pontoon when the dinghy is upright. I haven't noticed any problems yet (two years of cruising). Your mileage may vary, but for ease of handling, I wouldn't have it any other way. However, as my pics show, the stern pad is right in line with the transom of the dinghy, where most of the weight is. Regards, John ----- Original Message ----- From: Dan Symula <adventuresoul@yahoo.com> To: <trawler-world-list@samurai.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2002 4:26 PM Subject: Re: TWL: Re: More on Dinghy Davits > Im amazed. I was able to take off the entire "Caribe" > thing simply with a pair of plyers and a small amount > of pull. No heat needed. I had started to apply heat > and had it all taped off, thinking it was going to be > a crazy job. It makes me nervous, as if the rest of > the boat is held together like this.... Of course I > did wait until the sun was its hotest and quite warm > outside. > > Strange though. There was an outer piece with > lettering cut out of it to spell Caribe. Then, there > were individual letters glued into these cutouts. But > at any rate, its all off except the black crud > underneath. time to acetone,mark ,glue, and drill. Im > gaining on it! > > Dan > > > ===== > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup > http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com > _______________________________________________ > http://lists.samurai.com/mailman/listinfo/trawler-world-list
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Dan Symula
Wed, Jun 12, 2002 7:07 PM

Ive got the muffin fan installed and all wired. I was
going to opt for the thremostat, but decided not to. I
will run it constantly on the hook. It draws .18 amps.
Its wired into an already existing switch, already
labeled FAN. I figured this was a good use for it!

A word of note. My fan is noisy. When I tested it at
the store, it didnt sound loud. I can hear it easily
over the compressor. Wish it were quieter. Now if the
weather cooperates we will see how well it works this
weekend. It seems to move a whole lot of air though.
Now back to the davits.

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Ive got the muffin fan installed and all wired. I was going to opt for the thremostat, but decided not to. I will run it constantly on the hook. It draws .18 amps. Its wired into an already existing switch, already labeled FAN. I figured this was a good use for it! A word of note. My fan is noisy. When I tested it at the store, it didnt sound loud. I can hear it easily over the compressor. Wish it were quieter. Now if the weather cooperates we will see how well it works this weekend. It seems to move a whole lot of air though. Now back to the davits. ===== __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com
DB
Doug Barnard
Wed, Jun 12, 2002 7:45 PM

[mailto:trawler-world-list-admin@lists.samurai.com]On Behalf Of Dan
Symula

A word of note. My fan is noisy. When I tested it at
the store, it didnt sound loud. I can hear it easily
over the compressor. Wish it were quieter.

Maybe it's vibrating? Or resonating with something else (ducting)?


Doug Barnard
soon-to-be beginning construction
Origami Steel Swain 40 "Lotus Dream"
near Ventura, CA
http://www.virtualacreage.com/LotusDream

> [mailto:trawler-world-list-admin@lists.samurai.com]On Behalf Of Dan > Symula > A word of note. My fan is noisy. When I tested it at > the store, it didnt sound loud. I can hear it easily > over the compressor. Wish it were quieter. Maybe it's vibrating? Or resonating with something else (ducting)? ______________________________________________ Doug Barnard soon-to-be beginning construction Origami Steel Swain 40 "Lotus Dream" near Ventura, CA http://www.virtualacreage.com/LotusDream