Dear all, At present, Microsoft's Sora claims to be able to achieve real-time 802.11 response, is that right? and usrp X300 , be able to work on Sora system? Or make some changes to support? thank you for your reply best regards Jon

Hi John, As stated by ettus, miscrosoft should build support for ettus hardware, not the other way around. Based on my experience I would not trust Microsoft in long term support for the sora platform. Besides that the Windows platform is not capable of handling huge amounts of IO as even audio/video editing is unreliable. I would focus on a better suited operating system. Martijn Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPad > Op Jan 19, 2016 om 08:03 heeft liu Jong via USRP-users <usrp-users@lists.ettus.com> het volgende geschreven: > > Dear all, > At present, Microsoft's Sora claims to be able to achieve real-time 802.11 response, is that right? > and usrp X300 , be able to work on Sora system? Or make some changes to support? > > thank you for your reply > best regards > Jon > _______________________________________________ > USRP-users mailing list > USRP-users@lists.ettus.com > http://lists.ettus.com/mailman/listinfo/usrp-users_lists.ettus.com

Hi,Martijin, Thank you for your reply. As you say,I plan to achieve physical and MAC layer of 802.11a on FPGA of X310/300.So the FPGA resource of X300/310 be able to achieve it? Thank you. Jon 2016-01-20 1:25 GMT+08:00 Martijn Moeling <martijn@moeling.net>: > Hi John, > > As stated by ettus, miscrosoft should build support for ettus hardware, > not the other way around. Based on my experience I would not trust > Microsoft in long term support for the sora platform. Besides that the > Windows platform is not capable of handling huge amounts of IO as even > audio/video editing is unreliable. I would focus on a better suited > operating system. > > Martijn > > Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPad > > > Op Jan 19, 2016 om 08:03 heeft liu Jong via USRP-users < > usrp-users@lists.ettus.com> het volgende geschreven: > > > > Dear all, > > At present, Microsoft's Sora claims to be able to achieve > real-time 802.11 response, is that right? > > and usrp X300 , be able to work on Sora system? Or make some changes to > support? > > > > thank you for your reply > > best regards > > Jon > > _______________________________________________ > > USRP-users mailing list > > USRP-users@lists.ettus.com > > http://lists.ettus.com/mailman/listinfo/usrp-users_lists.ettus.com >

 Hi John,

 As stated by ettus, miscrosoft should build support for ettus
 hardware, not the other way around. Based on my experience I would
 not trust Microsoft in long term support for the sora platform.
 Besides that the Windows platform is not capable of handling huge
 amounts of IO as even audio/video editing is unreliable. I would
 focus on a better suited operating system.

 Martijn

 Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPad

 <usrp-users@lists.ettus.com <mailto:usrp-users@lists.ettus.com>>
 het volgende geschreven:

 real-time 802.11 response, is that right?

 changes to support?

Hi Jon, without modification to the FPGA, you can probably use Bastian Bloessl's gr-ieee802-11, which is a "nearly" standards-compliant implementation (I've never tried it on X3x0 myself, and it was developed for N210). That falls short mainly in one point: getting the ACKs out in time, which is mainly due to it being very hard to make a PC react to something that the USRP measured just in time. With modification of the FPGA: well, yes, that sounds doable, but it means you'd have to implement IEE802.11 PHY/MAC at least partly on an FPGA yourself. Our RF Network-On-Chip architecture might help you, but in the end, it's a big development effort you would have to go through yourself. I suspect it's the same that Microsoft did for Sora/IEEE802.11. Best regards, Marcus On 20.01.2016 02:14, liu Jong via USRP-users wrote: > Hi,Martijin, > Thank you for your reply. > As you say,I plan to achieve physical and MAC layer of > 802.11a on FPGA of X310/300.So the > FPGA resource of X300/310 be able to achieve it? > Thank you. > Jon > > 2016-01-20 1:25 GMT+08:00 Martijn Moeling <martijn@moeling.net > <mailto:martijn@moeling.net>>: > > Hi John, > > As stated by ettus, miscrosoft should build support for ettus > hardware, not the other way around. Based on my experience I would > not trust Microsoft in long term support for the sora platform. > Besides that the Windows platform is not capable of handling huge > amounts of IO as even audio/video editing is unreliable. I would > focus on a better suited operating system. > > Martijn > > Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPad > > > Op Jan 19, 2016 om 08:03 heeft liu Jong via USRP-users > <usrp-users@lists.ettus.com <mailto:usrp-users@lists.ettus.com>> > het volgende geschreven: > > > > Dear all, > > At present, Microsoft's Sora claims to be able to achieve > real-time 802.11 response, is that right? > > and usrp X300 , be able to work on Sora system? Or make some > changes to support? > > > > thank you for your reply > > best regards > > Jon > > _______________________________________________ > > USRP-users mailing list > > USRP-users@lists.ettus.com <mailto:USRP-users@lists.ettus.com> > > http://lists.ettus.com/mailman/listinfo/usrp-users_lists.ettus.com > > > > > _______________________________________________ > USRP-users mailing list > USRP-users@lists.ettus.com > http://lists.ettus.com/mailman/listinfo/usrp-users_lists.ettus.com

Hi Marcus, got it.Thank you for your davice. Best regards Jon 2016-01-20 16:41 GMT+08:00 Marcus Müller <usrp-users@lists.ettus.com>: > Hi Jon, > > without modification to the FPGA, you can probably use Bastian Bloessl's > gr-ieee802-11, which is a "nearly" standards-compliant implementation (I've > never tried it on X3x0 myself, and it was developed for N210). > That falls short mainly in one point: getting the ACKs out in time, which > is mainly due to it being very hard to make a PC react to something that > the USRP measured just in time. > > With modification of the FPGA: well, yes, that sounds doable, but it means > you'd have to implement IEE802.11 PHY/MAC at least partly on an FPGA > yourself. Our RF Network-On-Chip architecture might help you, but in the > end, it's a big development effort you would have to go through yourself. I > suspect it's the same that Microsoft did for Sora/IEEE802.11. > > Best regards, > Marcus > > > > On 20.01.2016 02:14, liu Jong via USRP-users wrote: > > Hi,Martijin, > Thank you for your reply. > As you say,I plan to achieve physical and MAC layer of 802.11a on > FPGA of X310/300.So the > FPGA resource of X300/310 be able to achieve it? > Thank you. > Jon > > 2016-01-20 1:25 GMT+08:00 Martijn Moeling <martijn@moeling.net>: > >> Hi John, >> >> As stated by ettus, miscrosoft should build support for ettus hardware, >> not the other way around. Based on my experience I would not trust >> Microsoft in long term support for the sora platform. Besides that the >> Windows platform is not capable of handling huge amounts of IO as even >> audio/video editing is unreliable. I would focus on a better suited >> operating system. >> >> Martijn >> >> Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPad >> >> > Op Jan 19, 2016 om 08:03 heeft liu Jong via USRP-users < >> usrp-users@lists.ettus.com> het volgende geschreven: >> > >> > Dear all, >> > At present, Microsoft's Sora claims to be able to achieve >> real-time 802.11 response, is that right? >> > and usrp X300 , be able to work on Sora system? Or make some changes >> to support? >> > >> > thank you for your reply >> > best regards >> > Jon >> > _______________________________________________ >> > USRP-users mailing list >> > USRP-users@lists.ettus.com >> > http://lists.ettus.com/mailman/listinfo/usrp-users_lists.ettus.com >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > USRP-users mailing listUSRP-users@lists.ettus.comhttp://lists.ettus.com/mailman/listinfo/usrp-users_lists.ettus.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > USRP-users mailing list > USRP-users@lists.ettus.com > http://lists.ettus.com/mailman/listinfo/usrp-users_lists.ettus.com > >

Dear all, We want to develop Algorithmic Program on FPGA of X310 ,so where we can get guidance about the FPGA, for example, the specific pin about FPGA interface? best regards Jon 2016-01-21 9:36 GMT+08:00 liu Jong <jongliu1987@gmail.com>: > Hi Marcus, > got it.Thank you for your davice. > Best regards > Jon > > > 2016-01-20 16:41 GMT+08:00 Marcus Müller <usrp-users@lists.ettus.com>: > >> Hi Jon, >> >> without modification to the FPGA, you can probably use Bastian Bloessl's >> gr-ieee802-11, which is a "nearly" standards-compliant implementation (I've >> never tried it on X3x0 myself, and it was developed for N210). >> That falls short mainly in one point: getting the ACKs out in time, which >> is mainly due to it being very hard to make a PC react to something that >> the USRP measured just in time. >> >> With modification of the FPGA: well, yes, that sounds doable, but it >> means you'd have to implement IEE802.11 PHY/MAC at least partly on an FPGA >> yourself. Our RF Network-On-Chip architecture might help you, but in the >> end, it's a big development effort you would have to go through yourself. I >> suspect it's the same that Microsoft did for Sora/IEEE802.11. >> >> Best regards, >> Marcus >> >> >> >> On 20.01.2016 02:14, liu Jong via USRP-users wrote: >> >> Hi,Martijin, >> Thank you for your reply. >> As you say,I plan to achieve physical and MAC layer of 802.11a >> on FPGA of X310/300.So the >> FPGA resource of X300/310 be able to achieve it? >> Thank you. >> Jon >> >> 2016-01-20 1:25 GMT+08:00 Martijn Moeling <martijn@moeling.net>: >> >>> Hi John, >>> >>> As stated by ettus, miscrosoft should build support for ettus hardware, >>> not the other way around. Based on my experience I would not trust >>> Microsoft in long term support for the sora platform. Besides that the >>> Windows platform is not capable of handling huge amounts of IO as even >>> audio/video editing is unreliable. I would focus on a better suited >>> operating system. >>> >>> Martijn >>> >>> Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPad >>> >>> > Op Jan 19, 2016 om 08:03 heeft liu Jong via USRP-users < >>> usrp-users@lists.ettus.com> het volgende geschreven: >>> > >>> > Dear all, >>> > At present, Microsoft's Sora claims to be able to achieve >>> real-time 802.11 response, is that right? >>> > and usrp X300 , be able to work on Sora system? Or make some changes >>> to support? >>> > >>> > thank you for your reply >>> > best regards >>> > Jon >>> > _______________________________________________ >>> > USRP-users mailing list >>> > USRP-users@lists.ettus.com >>> > http://lists.ettus.com/mailman/listinfo/usrp-users_lists.ettus.com >>> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> USRP-users mailing listUSRP-users@lists.ettus.comhttp://lists.ettus.com/mailman/listinfo/usrp-users_lists.ettus.com >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> USRP-users mailing list >> USRP-users@lists.ettus.com >> http://lists.ettus.com/mailman/listinfo/usrp-users_lists.ettus.com >> >> >

The schematics of the X3x0 should be on the Ettus website.. > Op 22 jan. 2016 om 10:42 heeft liu Jong via USRP-users <usrp-users@lists.ettus.com> het volgende geschreven: > > Dear all, > We want to develop Algorithmic Program on FPGA of X310 ,so where we can get guidance about the FPGA, for example, the specific pin about FPGA interface? > best regards > Jon > > 2016-01-21 9:36 GMT+08:00 liu Jong <jongliu1987@gmail.com>: >> Hi Marcus, >> got it.Thank you for your davice. >> Best regards >> Jon >> >> >> 2016-01-20 16:41 GMT+08:00 Marcus Müller <usrp-users@lists.ettus.com>: >>> Hi Jon, >>> >>> without modification to the FPGA, you can probably use Bastian Bloessl's gr-ieee802-11, which is a "nearly" standards-compliant implementation (I've never tried it on X3x0 myself, and it was developed for N210). >>> That falls short mainly in one point: getting the ACKs out in time, which is mainly due to it being very hard to make a PC react to something that the USRP measured just in time. >>> >>> With modification of the FPGA: well, yes, that sounds doable, but it means you'd have to implement IEE802.11 PHY/MAC at least partly on an FPGA yourself. Our RF Network-On-Chip architecture might help you, but in the end, it's a big development effort you would have to go through yourself. I suspect it's the same that Microsoft did for Sora/IEEE802.11. >>> >>> Best regards, >>> Marcus >>> >>> >>> >>>> On 20.01.2016 02:14, liu Jong via USRP-users wrote: >>>> Hi,Martijin, >>>> Thank you for your reply. >>>> As you say,I plan to achieve physical and MAC layer of 802.11a on FPGA of X310/300.So the >>>> FPGA resource of X300/310 be able to achieve it? >>>> Thank you. >>>> Jon >>>> >>>> 2016-01-20 1:25 GMT+08:00 Martijn Moeling <martijn@moeling.net>: >>>>> Hi John, >>>>> >>>>> As stated by ettus, miscrosoft should build support for ettus hardware, not the other way around. Based on my experience I would not trust Microsoft in long term support for the sora platform. Besides that the Windows platform is not capable of handling huge amounts of IO as even audio/video editing is unreliable. I would focus on a better suited operating system. >>>>> >>>>> Martijn >>>>> >>>>> Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPad >>>>> >>>>> > Op Jan 19, 2016 om 08:03 heeft liu Jong via USRP-users <usrp-users@lists.ettus.com> het volgende geschreven: >>>>> > >>>>> > Dear all, >>>>> > At present, Microsoft's Sora claims to be able to achieve real-time 802.11 response, is that right? >>>>> > and usrp X300 , be able to work on Sora system? Or make some changes to support? >>>>> > >>>>> > thank you for your reply >>>>> > best regards >>>>> > Jon >>>>> > _______________________________________________ >>>>> > USRP-users mailing list >>>>> > USRP-users@lists.ettus.com >>>>> > http://lists.ettus.com/mailman/listinfo/usrp-users_lists.ettus.com >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> USRP-users mailing list >>>> USRP-users@lists.ettus.com >>>> http://lists.ettus.com/mailman/listinfo/usrp-users_lists.ettus.com >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> USRP-users mailing list >>> USRP-users@lists.ettus.com >>> http://lists.ettus.com/mailman/listinfo/usrp-users_lists.ettus.com > > _______________________________________________ > USRP-users mailing list > USRP-users@lists.ettus.com > http://lists.ettus.com/mailman/listinfo/usrp-users_lists.ettus.com

Jon, Lots of info in FPGA repository on Github ( https://github.com/EttusResearch/fpga) and the X300 schematics ( http://files.ettus.com/schematics/x300/) -Trip On Fri, Jan 22, 2016 at 4:42 AM, liu Jong via USRP-users < usrp-users@lists.ettus.com> wrote: > Dear all, > We want to develop Algorithmic Program on FPGA of X310 ,so > where we can get guidance about the FPGA, for example, the specific pin > about FPGA interface? > best regards > Jon > > 2016-01-21 9:36 GMT+08:00 liu Jong <jongliu1987@gmail.com>: > >> Hi Marcus, >> got it.Thank you for your davice. >> Best regards >> Jon >> >> >> 2016-01-20 16:41 GMT+08:00 Marcus Müller <usrp-users@lists.ettus.com>: >> >>> Hi Jon, >>> >>> without modification to the FPGA, you can probably use Bastian Bloessl's >>> gr-ieee802-11, which is a "nearly" standards-compliant implementation (I've >>> never tried it on X3x0 myself, and it was developed for N210). >>> That falls short mainly in one point: getting the ACKs out in time, >>> which is mainly due to it being very hard to make a PC react to something >>> that the USRP measured just in time. >>> >>> With modification of the FPGA: well, yes, that sounds doable, but it >>> means you'd have to implement IEE802.11 PHY/MAC at least partly on an FPGA >>> yourself. Our RF Network-On-Chip architecture might help you, but in the >>> end, it's a big development effort you would have to go through yourself. I >>> suspect it's the same that Microsoft did for Sora/IEEE802.11. >>> >>> Best regards, >>> Marcus >>> >>> >>> >>> On 20.01.2016 02:14, liu Jong via USRP-users wrote: >>> >>> Hi,Martijin, >>> Thank you for your reply. >>> As you say,I plan to achieve physical and MAC layer of 802.11a >>> on FPGA of X310/300.So the >>> FPGA resource of X300/310 be able to achieve it? >>> Thank you. >>> Jon >>> >>> 2016-01-20 1:25 GMT+08:00 Martijn Moeling <martijn@moeling.net>: >>> >>>> Hi John, >>>> >>>> As stated by ettus, miscrosoft should build support for ettus hardware, >>>> not the other way around. Based on my experience I would not trust >>>> Microsoft in long term support for the sora platform. Besides that the >>>> Windows platform is not capable of handling huge amounts of IO as even >>>> audio/video editing is unreliable. I would focus on a better suited >>>> operating system. >>>> >>>> Martijn >>>> >>>> Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPad >>>> >>>> > Op Jan 19, 2016 om 08:03 heeft liu Jong via USRP-users < >>>> usrp-users@lists.ettus.com> het volgende geschreven: >>>> > >>>> > Dear all, >>>> > At present, Microsoft's Sora claims to be able to achieve >>>> real-time 802.11 response, is that right? >>>> > and usrp X300 , be able to work on Sora system? Or make some changes >>>> to support? >>>> > >>>> > thank you for your reply >>>> > best regards >>>> > Jon >>>> > _______________________________________________ >>>> > USRP-users mailing list >>>> > USRP-users@lists.ettus.com >>>> > http://lists.ettus.com/mailman/listinfo/usrp-users_lists.ettus.com >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> USRP-users mailing listUSRP-users@lists.ettus.comhttp://lists.ettus.com/mailman/listinfo/usrp-users_lists.ettus.com >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> USRP-users mailing list >>> USRP-users@lists.ettus.com >>> http://lists.ettus.com/mailman/listinfo/usrp-users_lists.ettus.com >>> >>> >> > > _______________________________________________ > USRP-users mailing list > USRP-users@lists.ettus.com > http://lists.ettus.com/mailman/listinfo/usrp-users_lists.ettus.com > >