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Re: T&T: propane stove

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Xlngolf@aol.com
Sun, Oct 11, 2009 4:24 PM

Go out and get one of those one burner butane stove  top portable units!
I've got one and it's perfect for small uses in the  morning.  Kinda makes
you feel like you're stealing, because it's cheap and  easy to use. I take
it up on the flybrige sometimes when it's appropriate to  make popcorn with
the kids, coffee, hot chocolate,  etc.

Go out and get one of those one burner butane stove top portable units! I've got one and it's perfect for small uses in the morning. Kinda makes you feel like you're stealing, because it's cheap and easy to use. I take it up on the flybrige sometimes when it's appropriate to make popcorn with the kids, coffee, hot chocolate, etc.
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KevinR
Sun, Oct 11, 2009 4:56 PM

-----Original Message-----
Go out and get one of those one burner butane stove  top portable units!

I would strongly recommend NOT to ever bring one of those units onto a boat!
They lack any of the safety systems of a built in propane system, do not
meet ABYC requirements, and use propane cylinders with the cheapest valves
made - just set to leak propane into the bilge.

Remember, propane fumes are heavier than air and will setting into the bilge
waiting for a spark to blow the boat apart. To see what happens in a case
like that, see the pictures and story at
http://www.boatmoves.com/A_Propane_Disaster.htm

Propane stoves and ovens on a boat are wonderful connivances, but come with
a serious safety issue that must be kept in mind. I have no problem in
recommending the addition of a propane system, but you MUST do it right,
with the proper tank storage outside the hull, outside auto-shutoff valves,
and internal sniffers with auto-shutdown (hopefully at least two). See Larry
Brown's earlier post of just such a system.

The inside of a boat is no place for the cheap attached cylinder propane
stoves that were never intended for use in a boat. These stoves do not meet
the ABYC requirements for LPG use on a boat (see below).

Kevin


ABYC A-1 MARINE LIQUEFIED PETROLEUM GAS (LPG) SYSTEMS
A-1.7.6 Cylinder And Connected Devices - Location and Installation
A-1.7.6.1 LPG cylinders, cylinder valves, regulating
equipment, and safety devices shall be readily accessible,
secured for sea conditions, and protected from the weather
and against mechanical damage, and shall be
A-1.7.6.1.1 installed in a ventilated location on the
exterior of the boat where escaping gases will flow directly
overboard, or,
A-1.7.6.1.2 if the escaping vapors will not flow directly
overboard, the cylinder shall be installed in a dedicated
locker meeting

> -----Original Message----- > Go out and get one of those one burner butane stove top portable units! I would strongly recommend NOT to ever bring one of those units onto a boat! They lack any of the safety systems of a built in propane system, do not meet ABYC requirements, and use propane cylinders with the cheapest valves made - just set to leak propane into the bilge. Remember, propane fumes are heavier than air and will setting into the bilge waiting for a spark to blow the boat apart. To see what happens in a case like that, see the pictures and story at http://www.boatmoves.com/A_Propane_Disaster.htm Propane stoves and ovens on a boat are wonderful connivances, but come with a serious safety issue that must be kept in mind. I have no problem in recommending the addition of a propane system, but you MUST do it right, with the proper tank storage outside the hull, outside auto-shutoff valves, and internal sniffers with auto-shutdown (hopefully at least two). See Larry Brown's earlier post of just such a system. The inside of a boat is no place for the cheap attached cylinder propane stoves that were never intended for use in a boat. These stoves do not meet the ABYC requirements for LPG use on a boat (see below). Kevin ----------------------------- ABYC A-1 MARINE LIQUEFIED PETROLEUM GAS (LPG) SYSTEMS A-1.7.6 Cylinder And Connected Devices - Location and Installation A-1.7.6.1 LPG cylinders, cylinder valves, regulating equipment, and safety devices shall be readily accessible, secured for sea conditions, and protected from the weather and against mechanical damage, and shall be A-1.7.6.1.1 installed in a ventilated location on the exterior of the boat where escaping gases will flow directly overboard, or, A-1.7.6.1.2 if the escaping vapors will not flow directly overboard, the cylinder shall be installed in a dedicated locker meeting
WK
Warren Keuffel
Sun, Oct 11, 2009 5:01 PM

But what about those many thousands of gas canister-fueled BBQ units
seen everywhere, and without problems, in the boating world? How are
they different from setting up a portable stove in the same area?

Warren

On Oct 11, 2009, at 9:56 AM, KevinR wrote:

-----Original Message-----
Go out and get one of those one burner butane stove  top portable
units!

I would strongly recommend NOT to ever bring one of those units
onto a boat!
They lack any of the safety systems of a built in propane system,
do not
meet ABYC requirements, and use propane cylinders with the cheapest
valves
made - just set to leak propane into the bilge.

Remember, propane fumes are heavier than air and will setting into
the bilge
waiting for a spark to blow the boat apart. To see what happens in
a case
like that, see the pictures and story at
http://www.boatmoves.com/A_Propane_Disaster.htm

Propane stoves and ovens on a boat are wonderful connivances, but
come with
a serious safety issue that must be kept in mind. I have no problem in
recommending the addition of a propane system, but you MUST do it
right,
with the proper tank storage outside the hull, outside auto-shutoff
valves,
and internal sniffers with auto-shutdown (hopefully at least two).
See Larry
Brown's earlier post of just such a system.

The inside of a boat is no place for the cheap attached cylinder
propane
stoves that were never intended for use in a boat. These stoves do
not meet
the ABYC requirements for LPG use on a boat (see below).

Kevin

But what about those many thousands of gas canister-fueled BBQ units seen everywhere, and without problems, in the boating world? How are they different from setting up a portable stove in the same area? Warren On Oct 11, 2009, at 9:56 AM, KevinR wrote: >> -----Original Message----- >> Go out and get one of those one burner butane stove top portable >> units! > > I would strongly recommend NOT to ever bring one of those units > onto a boat! > They lack any of the safety systems of a built in propane system, > do not > meet ABYC requirements, and use propane cylinders with the cheapest > valves > made - just set to leak propane into the bilge. > > Remember, propane fumes are heavier than air and will setting into > the bilge > waiting for a spark to blow the boat apart. To see what happens in > a case > like that, see the pictures and story at > http://www.boatmoves.com/A_Propane_Disaster.htm > > Propane stoves and ovens on a boat are wonderful connivances, but > come with > a serious safety issue that must be kept in mind. I have no problem in > recommending the addition of a propane system, but you MUST do it > right, > with the proper tank storage outside the hull, outside auto-shutoff > valves, > and internal sniffers with auto-shutdown (hopefully at least two). > See Larry > Brown's earlier post of just such a system. > > The inside of a boat is no place for the cheap attached cylinder > propane > stoves that were never intended for use in a boat. These stoves do > not meet > the ABYC requirements for LPG use on a boat (see below). > > Kevin