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Re: T&T: Verizon broadband options

SO
Stephen Offutt
Fri, Dec 15, 2006 3:52 AM

Sorry Bob,
I have been really busy this week & apologize for not replying till now. I
was trying to salvage a boat purchase going south this week, without looking
like I was. Anyway, it looks like we now - finally - have a signed contract
and signed list of included equipment.

About this air card, the card is the Verizon Wireless PC5740 fitting to the
laptop PCM/CIA Type II slot (it replace the wireless card that used to live
there - no coffee shops on the boat).  The software searches for the best
type of signal available and sets up on that band.  It tx/rx in the:
Broadband freqs. when available - not here in this part of the world, using
the National Access band - here - it is slower, tx about 60 kbps and bursts
(most tx)of about 110-125 kbps.  At home, we set on top of a
telecommunications relay box and always have rx of 11Mbps continuously.

The software is the Verizon VZAccess Manager for mobile use.  It's pretty
user friendly for loading and subsystem turn-on and subsequent use.

It's good enough for our use, mostly text and 20% graphics that we do.

Like I've heard here from others here, we're cancelling our broadband back
home and will just use the air card.

Now this setup is nothing special, we just walked into Verizon and asked for
an air card and this is what they gave us.  Because we have cell phones with
them, the cost is $60/mo for 2yrs.  This will work on the boat and that is
really all that matters to us now, because that's where we will be most of
the time after February.  See you there.

Stephen Offutt,
On the Hard in Mobile,
soffutt@sbcglobal.net

------Original Message-----
-From: Bob Peterson [mailto:bob@peterson.org]
-Sent: Sunday, December 10, 2006 12:20 PM
-To: 'Stephen Offutt'
-Subject: RE: T&T: Verizon broadband options

-Stephen, how about some details.  Which particular card?  Which program?
-Etc.
-Bob Peterson

------Original Message-----
-From: trawlers-and-trawlering-bounces+bob=peterson.org@lists.samurai.com
-[mailto:trawlers-and-trawlering-bounces+bob=peterson.org@lists.samurai.com]
-On Behalf Of Stephen Offutt
-Sent: Sunday, December 10, 2006 1:13 AM
-To: 'Rich Gano'; 'Trawlers-and-Trawlering'
-Subject: Re: T&T: Verizon broadband options

-Rich,
-While boat hunting along the gulf coast and now waiting for it's refit in
-Mobile over the next few months, I found myself in a small apt with no
-internet service, OK, humans can last 12 min w/o air, 3 days w/o water,
-etc., but have not seen the charts on w/o internet service.  Based on List
-traffic on air card solution, I ran - auto to loaded to be fast enough - to
-the Verizon store and grabbed an air card.  Now, having recovered in the
-caring arms of the Admiral and the world once again rightfully returned to
-my laptop, I find the calm of connectedness washing over me like a tropical
-Padre Island breeze in winter, miss it so.

-On the Hard in Mobile,
-stephen_offutt@sbcglobal.net

-------Original Message-----
--From: trawlers-and-trawlering-bounces@lists.samurai.com [mailto:trawlers-
--and-trawlering-bounces@lists.samurai.com] On Behalf Of Rich Gano
--Sent: Friday, December 08, 2006 11:31 AM
--To: Trawlers-and-Trawlering
--Subject: T&T: Verizon broadband options

--I posted this on the great Loop list, but my intent was to send it here
--alone  - duh.

--As a result of our recent run up and back to the northern portions of the
--Tennessee River, we have become Verizon people.

--For boating purposes, I am trying to decide whether to go "tethered" to my
--cell phone or just get an air card for my laptop.  Without all the
-external
--additions such as antennas and amp, which will be faster and which will
--have -longer range?

--Panama City now has Verizon Broadband, and I have an "EV" signal on my
--phone -with two bars at my desktop in the house.

--I am wondering how this "EVII" signal's speed compares to the DSL Lite I
--use -in the house because ideally I could dump DSL and use Verizon afloat
-and -ashore with some sort of adapter into my desktop's hub.
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Sorry Bob, I have been really busy this week & apologize for not replying till now. I was trying to salvage a boat purchase going south this week, without looking like I was. Anyway, it looks like we now - finally - have a signed contract and signed list of included equipment. About this air card, the card is the Verizon Wireless PC5740 fitting to the laptop PCM/CIA Type II slot (it replace the wireless card that used to live there - no coffee shops on the boat). The software searches for the best type of signal available and sets up on that band. It tx/rx in the: Broadband freqs. when available - not here in this part of the world, using the National Access band - here - it is slower, tx about 60 kbps and bursts (most tx)of about 110-125 kbps. At home, we set on top of a telecommunications relay box and always have rx of 11Mbps continuously. The software is the Verizon VZAccess Manager for mobile use. It's pretty user friendly for loading and subsystem turn-on and subsequent use. It's good enough for our use, mostly text and 20% graphics that we do. Like I've heard here from others here, we're cancelling our broadband back home and will just use the air card. Now this setup is nothing special, we just walked into Verizon and asked for an air card and this is what they gave us. Because we have cell phones with them, the cost is $60/mo for 2yrs. This will work on the boat and that is really all that matters to us now, because that's where we will be most of the time after February. See you there. Stephen Offutt, On the Hard in Mobile, soffutt@sbcglobal.net ------Original Message----- -From: Bob Peterson [mailto:bob@peterson.org] -Sent: Sunday, December 10, 2006 12:20 PM -To: 'Stephen Offutt' -Subject: RE: T&T: Verizon broadband options - -Stephen, how about some details. Which particular card? Which program? -Etc. -Bob Peterson - ------Original Message----- -From: trawlers-and-trawlering-bounces+bob=peterson.org@lists.samurai.com -[mailto:trawlers-and-trawlering-bounces+bob=peterson.org@lists.samurai.com] -On Behalf Of Stephen Offutt -Sent: Sunday, December 10, 2006 1:13 AM -To: 'Rich Gano'; 'Trawlers-and-Trawlering' -Subject: Re: T&T: Verizon broadband options - -Rich, -While boat hunting along the gulf coast and now waiting for it's refit in -Mobile over the next few months, I found myself in a small apt with no -internet service, OK, humans can last 12 min w/o air, 3 days w/o water, -etc., but have not seen the charts on w/o internet service. Based on List -traffic on air card solution, I ran - auto to loaded to be fast enough - to -the Verizon store and grabbed an air card. Now, having recovered in the -caring arms of the Admiral and the world once again rightfully returned to -my laptop, I find the calm of connectedness washing over me like a tropical -Padre Island breeze in winter, miss it so. - -On the Hard in Mobile, -stephen_offutt@sbcglobal.net - -------Original Message----- --From: trawlers-and-trawlering-bounces@lists.samurai.com [mailto:trawlers- --and-trawlering-bounces@lists.samurai.com] On Behalf Of Rich Gano --Sent: Friday, December 08, 2006 11:31 AM --To: Trawlers-and-Trawlering --Subject: T&T: Verizon broadband options -- --I posted this on the great Loop list, but my intent was to send it here --alone - duh. -- --As a result of our recent run up and back to the northern portions of the --Tennessee River, we have become Verizon people. -- --For boating purposes, I am trying to decide whether to go "tethered" to my --cell phone or just get an air card for my laptop. Without all the -external --additions such as antennas and amp, which will be faster and which will --have -longer range? -- --Panama City now has Verizon Broadband, and I have an "EV" signal on my --phone -with two bars at my desktop in the house. -- --I am wondering how this "EVII" signal's speed compares to the DSL Lite I --use -in the house because ideally I could dump DSL and use Verizon afloat -and -ashore with some sort of adapter into my desktop's hub. --_______________________________________________ --http://lists.samurai.com/mailman/listinfo/trawlers-and-trawlering -- --To unsubscribe send email to --trawlers-and-trawlering-request@lists.samurai.com with the word --UNSUBSCRIBE and nothing else in the subject or body of the message. -- --Trawlers & Trawlering and T&T are trademarks of Water World -Productions. -Unauthorized use is prohibited. -_______________________________________________ -http://lists.samurai.com/mailman/listinfo/trawlers-and-trawlering - -To unsubscribe send email to -trawlers-and-trawlering-request@lists.samurai.com with the word UNSUBSCRIBE -and nothing else in the subject or body of the message. - -Trawlers & Trawlering and T&T are trademarks of Water World Productions. -Unauthorized use is prohibited.
BP
Bob Peterson
Fri, Dec 15, 2006 7:25 PM

Stephen, thanks for the update.  You addressed my question which would have
been about cell phone access, you have that separately.  I'm considering
getting a tethered cell phone, so it can serve as both cell phone and, when
tethered, as internet connection.  Thus rather than a single-purpose air
card which won't permit using as a cell phone, I could have both in one
package, right?

Bob Peterson
"Lopaka Nane"
47' Lien Hwa CPMY
San Francisco

-----Original Message-----
From: Stephen Offutt [mailto:soffutt@sbcglobal.net]
Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2006 7:53 PM
To: bob@peterson.org; trawlers-and-trawlering@lists.samurai.com
Subject: RE: T&T: Verizon broadband options

Sorry Bob,
I have been really busy this week & apologize for not replying till now. I
was trying to salvage a boat purchase going south this week, without looking
like I was. Anyway, it looks like we now - finally - have a signed contract
and signed list of included equipment.

About this air card, the card is the Verizon Wireless PC5740 fitting to the
laptop PCM/CIA Type II slot (it replace the wireless card that used to live
there - no coffee shops on the boat).  The software searches for the best
type of signal available and sets up on that band.  It tx/rx in the:
Broadband freqs. when available - not here in this part of the world, using
the National Access band - here - it is slower, tx about 60 kbps and bursts
(most tx)of about 110-125 kbps.  At home, we set on top of a
telecommunications relay box and always have rx of 11Mbps continuously.

The software is the Verizon VZAccess Manager for mobile use.  It's pretty
user friendly for loading and subsystem turn-on and subsequent use.

It's good enough for our use, mostly text and 20% graphics that we do.

Like I've heard here from others here, we're cancelling our broadband back
home and will just use the air card.

Now this setup is nothing special, we just walked into Verizon and asked for
an air card and this is what they gave us.  Because we have cell phones with
them, the cost is $60/mo for 2yrs.  This will work on the boat and that is
really all that matters to us now, because that's where we will be most of
the time after February.  See you there.

Stephen Offutt,
On the Hard in Mobile,
soffutt@sbcglobal.net

Stephen, thanks for the update. You addressed my question which would have been about cell phone access, you have that separately. I'm considering getting a tethered cell phone, so it can serve as both cell phone and, when tethered, as internet connection. Thus rather than a single-purpose air card which won't permit using as a cell phone, I could have both in one package, right? Bob Peterson "Lopaka Nane" 47' Lien Hwa CPMY San Francisco -----Original Message----- From: Stephen Offutt [mailto:soffutt@sbcglobal.net] Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2006 7:53 PM To: bob@peterson.org; trawlers-and-trawlering@lists.samurai.com Subject: RE: T&T: Verizon broadband options Sorry Bob, I have been really busy this week & apologize for not replying till now. I was trying to salvage a boat purchase going south this week, without looking like I was. Anyway, it looks like we now - finally - have a signed contract and signed list of included equipment. About this air card, the card is the Verizon Wireless PC5740 fitting to the laptop PCM/CIA Type II slot (it replace the wireless card that used to live there - no coffee shops on the boat). The software searches for the best type of signal available and sets up on that band. It tx/rx in the: Broadband freqs. when available - not here in this part of the world, using the National Access band - here - it is slower, tx about 60 kbps and bursts (most tx)of about 110-125 kbps. At home, we set on top of a telecommunications relay box and always have rx of 11Mbps continuously. The software is the Verizon VZAccess Manager for mobile use. It's pretty user friendly for loading and subsystem turn-on and subsequent use. It's good enough for our use, mostly text and 20% graphics that we do. Like I've heard here from others here, we're cancelling our broadband back home and will just use the air card. Now this setup is nothing special, we just walked into Verizon and asked for an air card and this is what they gave us. Because we have cell phones with them, the cost is $60/mo for 2yrs. This will work on the boat and that is really all that matters to us now, because that's where we will be most of the time after February. See you there. Stephen Offutt, On the Hard in Mobile, soffutt@sbcglobal.net
JS
Jeffrey Siegel
Fri, Dec 15, 2006 9:47 PM

Thus rather than a single-purpose air
card which won't permit using as a cell phone, I could have
both in one package, right?

That is exactly what that will provide.  Just make sure to also select a
phone that can handle email and web browsing too.  You'll find that you
won't need to start up your PC as often for those simple types of
applications.  It is very nice to get your email while you're phone is in
your pocket, especially when you are waiting for something.  It changes the
way you're able to stay in contact with friends and family too since you're
able to communicate from wherever you are.

I'd strongly suggest getting a phone that has a keyboard built-in too.
Also, make sure there are no questions about the ability to connect the
phone to your PC to allow it to get on the internet.

...Jeff

> Thus rather than a single-purpose air > card which won't permit using as a cell phone, I could have > both in one package, right? > That is exactly what that will provide. Just make sure to also select a phone that can handle email and web browsing too. You'll find that you won't need to start up your PC as often for those simple types of applications. It is very nice to get your email while you're phone is in your pocket, especially when you are waiting for something. It changes the way you're able to stay in contact with friends and family too since you're able to communicate from wherever you are. I'd strongly suggest getting a phone that has a keyboard built-in too. Also, make sure there are no questions about the ability to connect the phone to your PC to allow it to get on the internet. ...Jeff
SO
Stephen Offutt
Sat, Dec 16, 2006 7:48 AM

Bob, My thinking on the tethered route is that you DO have just the one
package with two uses.  So using the internet and the telephone at the same
time for an internet meeting, or just talking to Mom while I'm playing
on-line poker -sorry Mom - would not work.  I think...  if not, I'm wasting
enough $$ to buy another boat toy.  Maybe someone who uses tethered internet
could correct me on that?
However, near-all-time internet access is necessary in order for me to go
cruising.

Stephen Offutt,
Trawler Usability Research Consultant
On the Hard in Mobile,
soffutt@sbcglobal.net

------Original Message-----
-From: Bob Peterson [mailto:bob@peterson.org]
-Sent: Friday, December 15, 2006 1:26 PM
-To: 'Stephen Offutt'; trawlers-and-trawlering@lists.samurai.com
-Subject: RE: T&T: Verizon broadband options

-Stephen, thanks for the update.  You addressed my question which would have
-been about cell phone access, you have that separately.  I'm considering
-getting a tethered cell phone, so it can serve as both cell phone and, when
-tethered, as internet connection.  Thus rather than a single-purpose air
-card which won't permit using as a cell phone, I could have both in one
-package, right?

-Bob Peterson
-"Lopaka Nane"
-47' Lien Hwa CPMY
-San Francisco

------Original Message-----
-From: Stephen Offutt [mailto:soffutt@sbcglobal.net]
-Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2006 7:53 PM
-To: bob@peterson.org; trawlers-and-trawlering@lists.samurai.com
-Subject: RE: T&T: Verizon broadband options

-Sorry Bob,
-I have been really busy this week & apologize for not replying till now. I
-was trying to salvage a boat purchase going south this week, without
-looking
-like I was. Anyway, it looks like we now - finally - have a signed contract
-and signed list of included equipment.

-About this air card, the card is the Verizon Wireless PC5740 fitting to the
-laptop PCM/CIA Type II slot (it replace the wireless card that used to live
-there - no coffee shops on the boat).  The software searches for the best
-type of signal available and sets up on that band.  It tx/rx in the:
-Broadband freqs. when available - not here in this part of the world, using
-the National Access band - here - it is slower, tx about 60 kbps and bursts
-(most tx)of about 110-125 kbps.  At home, we set on top of a
-telecommunications relay box and always have rx of 11Mbps continuously.

-The software is the Verizon VZAccess Manager for mobile use.  It's pretty
-user friendly for loading and subsystem turn-on and subsequent use.

-It's good enough for our use, mostly text and 20% graphics that we do.

-Like I've heard here from others here, we're cancelling our broadband back
-home and will just use the air card.

-Now this setup is nothing special, we just walked into Verizon and asked
-for
-an air card and this is what they gave us.  Because we have cell phones
-with
-them, the cost is $60/mo for 2yrs.  This will work on the boat and that is
-really all that matters to us now, because that's where we will be most of
-the time after February.  See you there.

-Stephen Offutt,
-On the Hard in Mobile,
-soffutt@sbcglobal.net

Bob, My thinking on the tethered route is that you DO have just the one package with two uses. So using the internet and the telephone at the same time for an internet meeting, or just talking to Mom while I'm playing on-line poker -sorry Mom - would not work. I think... if not, I'm wasting enough $$ to buy another boat toy. Maybe someone who uses tethered internet could correct me on that? However, near-all-time internet access is necessary in order for me to go cruising. Stephen Offutt, Trawler Usability Research Consultant On the Hard in Mobile, soffutt@sbcglobal.net ------Original Message----- -From: Bob Peterson [mailto:bob@peterson.org] -Sent: Friday, December 15, 2006 1:26 PM -To: 'Stephen Offutt'; trawlers-and-trawlering@lists.samurai.com -Subject: RE: T&T: Verizon broadband options - -Stephen, thanks for the update. You addressed my question which would have -been about cell phone access, you have that separately. I'm considering -getting a tethered cell phone, so it can serve as both cell phone and, when -tethered, as internet connection. Thus rather than a single-purpose air -card which won't permit using as a cell phone, I could have both in one -package, right? - -Bob Peterson -"Lopaka Nane" -47' Lien Hwa CPMY -San Francisco - ------Original Message----- -From: Stephen Offutt [mailto:soffutt@sbcglobal.net] -Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2006 7:53 PM -To: bob@peterson.org; trawlers-and-trawlering@lists.samurai.com -Subject: RE: T&T: Verizon broadband options - -Sorry Bob, -I have been really busy this week & apologize for not replying till now. I -was trying to salvage a boat purchase going south this week, without -looking -like I was. Anyway, it looks like we now - finally - have a signed contract -and signed list of included equipment. - -About this air card, the card is the Verizon Wireless PC5740 fitting to the -laptop PCM/CIA Type II slot (it replace the wireless card that used to live -there - no coffee shops on the boat). The software searches for the best -type of signal available and sets up on that band. It tx/rx in the: -Broadband freqs. when available - not here in this part of the world, using -the National Access band - here - it is slower, tx about 60 kbps and bursts -(most tx)of about 110-125 kbps. At home, we set on top of a -telecommunications relay box and always have rx of 11Mbps continuously. - -The software is the Verizon VZAccess Manager for mobile use. It's pretty -user friendly for loading and subsystem turn-on and subsequent use. - -It's good enough for our use, mostly text and 20% graphics that we do. - -Like I've heard here from others here, we're cancelling our broadband back -home and will just use the air card. - -Now this setup is nothing special, we just walked into Verizon and asked -for -an air card and this is what they gave us. Because we have cell phones -with -them, the cost is $60/mo for 2yrs. This will work on the boat and that is -really all that matters to us now, because that's where we will be most of -the time after February. See you there. - -Stephen Offutt, -On the Hard in Mobile, -soffutt@sbcglobal.net
RC
R C Smith Jr
Sat, Dec 16, 2006 8:24 PM

Stephen Offutt wrote:

My thinking on the tethered route is that you DO have just the one
package with two uses.  So using the internet and the telephone at the same
time...would not work.  I think...

When I am tethered by Bluetooth to my MacBook, I have no problem using the
phone...using a Treo 650.

Bob


R C smith Jr
MARY KATHRYN
1977 Hatteras 58 LRC
Jib Room, Marsh Harbour, Abaco, Bahamas

Stephen Offutt wrote: > My thinking on the tethered route is that you DO have just the one > package with two uses. So using the internet and the telephone at the same > time...would not work. I think... When I am tethered by Bluetooth to my MacBook, I have no problem using the phone...using a Treo 650. Bob ____________________ R C smith Jr MARY KATHRYN 1977 Hatteras 58 LRC Jib Room, Marsh Harbour, Abaco, Bahamas
SO
Stephen Offutt
Sat, Dec 16, 2006 10:56 PM

I suspected that I might not have the full story, I depended on the Verizon
salesman on this - definitely a vested party.  I'm glad that the tethered
alternative is more flexible than I thought, for others.  Me, I puts down me
nickel and I tooks me chances.  'Information is the progenitor of knowledge,
of your ignorance'.  Said by someone, sometime, I'm sure.  My last original
thought was, OOwww... it's tight in here!
Stephen,
On the Hard in Fairhope,
soffutt@sbcglobal.net

------Original Message-----
-From: trawlers-and-trawlering-bounces@lists.samurai.com [mailto:trawlers-
-and-trawlering-bounces@lists.samurai.com] On Behalf Of R C Smith Jr
-Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2006 2:24 PM
-To: T&T T&T
-Subject: Re: T&T: Verizon broadband options

-Stephen Offutt wrote:

-> My thinking on the tethered route is that you DO have just the one
-> package with two uses.  So using the internet and the telephone at the
-same
-> time...would not work.  I think...

-When I am tethered by Bluetooth to my MacBook, I have no problem using the
-phone...using a Treo 650.

-Bob
-____________________
-R C smith Jr
-MARY KATHRYN
-1977 Hatteras 58 LRC
-Jib Room, Marsh Harbour, Abaco, Bahamas
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I suspected that I might not have the full story, I depended on the Verizon salesman on this - definitely a vested party. I'm glad that the tethered alternative is more flexible than I thought, for others. Me, I puts down me nickel and I tooks me chances. 'Information is the progenitor of knowledge, of your ignorance'. Said by someone, sometime, I'm sure. My last original thought was, OOwww... it's tight in here! Stephen, On the Hard in Fairhope, soffutt@sbcglobal.net ------Original Message----- -From: trawlers-and-trawlering-bounces@lists.samurai.com [mailto:trawlers- -and-trawlering-bounces@lists.samurai.com] On Behalf Of R C Smith Jr -Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2006 2:24 PM -To: T&T T&T -Subject: Re: T&T: Verizon broadband options - -Stephen Offutt wrote: - -> My thinking on the tethered route is that you DO have just the one -> package with two uses. So using the internet and the telephone at the -same -> time...would not work. I think... - -When I am tethered by Bluetooth to my MacBook, I have no problem using the -phone...using a Treo 650. - -Bob -____________________ -R C smith Jr -MARY KATHRYN -1977 Hatteras 58 LRC -Jib Room, Marsh Harbour, Abaco, Bahamas -_______________________________________________ -http://lists.samurai.com/mailman/listinfo/trawlers-and-trawlering - -To unsubscribe send email to -trawlers-and-trawlering-request@lists.samurai.com with the word -UNSUBSCRIBE and nothing else in the subject or body of the message. - -Trawlers & Trawlering and T&T are trademarks of Water World -Productions. Unauthorized use is prohibited.