Re: TWL: Dripless Packing
In a message dated 99-12-14 11:14:31 EST, yourcaptain@earthlink.net writes:
Why are you doing this------------does it hurt to have a few drops of water
drip into the bilge and get pumped out ??
Boats without bilge water smell better Al.
At 05:15 PM 12/14/99 -0800, you wrote:
AMEN! Why would you want to have an ancient techknowledgy that lets water
ito your boat?
Bob & Debbie Huddleston Krogen 42
AB6NI KC6SKY "The Deborah C."
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Regarding that ancient "stuff" you speak of---------Have you ever thought
that the bilge pump coming on periodically is a good test to let you know
it is alive and well instead of finding out the pump died or is hung up
when an emergency comes up.
A little bit of water has been or is, in almost every boat afloat and they
all seem to manage to survive. Let's hope the dry ones do as well......
Keep your powder dry.
Al
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Captain Al Pilvinis
"M/V Driftwood"--Prairie 47
2630 N.E. 41st Street
Lighthouse Point, Fl 33064-8064
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AMEN! Why would you want to have an ancient techknowledgy that lets water
ito your boat?
Bob & Debbie Huddleston Krogen 42
AB6NI KC6SKY "The Deborah C."
HuddlestonB_D@msn.com
----- Original Message -----
From: PBrowne900@aol.com
To: Trawler World List trawler-world-list@samurai.com
Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 1999 10:04 AM
Subject: Re: TWL: Dripless Packing
In a message dated 99-12-14 11:14:31 EST, yourcaptain@earthlink.net
writes:
Why are you doing this------------does it hurt to have a few drops of
water
drip into the bilge and get pumped out ??
Boats without bilge water smell better Al.
huddlestonB_D@email.msn.com writes:
AMEN! Why would you want to have an ancient techknowledgy that lets
water
ito your boat?
I seem to recall having read in an earlier discussion somewhere else
that some older shaft bearings rely on a bit of water leakage to
either supply lubrication and or cooling. Does anyone have some
definitive knowledge of this?
George, who has an older boat which is definitely leaking a bit on
the packing gland - for about 25 years now...
You are definitely correct. Shaft packing requires about a drip per minute
and constant maintainence. You have to pump the bilge and deal with the
smell. Why would you do that when better techknowledey exists?
Bob & Debbie Huddleston Krogen 42
AB6NI KC6SKY "The Deborah C."
HuddlestonB_D@msn.com
----- Original Message -----
From: George Geist scaramouche@tvo.org
To: huddlestonB_D@email.msn.com
Cc: trawler-world-list@samurai.com
Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 1999 5:22 PM
Subject: Re(2): TWL: Dripless Packing
huddlestonB_D@email.msn.com writes:
AMEN! Why would you want to have an ancient techknowledgy that lets
water
ito your boat?
I seem to recall having read in an earlier discussion somewhere else
that some older shaft bearings rely on a bit of water leakage to
either supply lubrication and or cooling. Does anyone have some
definitive knowledge of this?
George, who has an older boat which is definitely leaking a bit on
the packing gland - for about 25 years now...
AMEN! Why would you want to have an ancient techknowledgy that lets water
ito your boat?
So I can fix it anywhere, anytime, and quickly, without spares and with
only a
crescent and a knife blade. So I don't need to contact a supplier for
parts, arrange
payment, wait for delivery at some remote outpost, all at great expense
and all
presupposing communication exists.
So I don't need to canvass opinions on various versions before finally
biting
the bullet, paying up and hoping to God it works. So I don't need one
more
"operation manual" full of dire warnings and warranty cop-outs. So that
installation
has no critical adjustments and because it is tried and proven over
hundreds of
years in thousands and thousands of vessels in an application of first
importance.
That's why. DJ
Bob & Debbie Huddleston Krogen 42
AB6NI KC6SKY "The Deborah C."
HuddlestonB_D@msn.com
----- Original Message -----
From: jackman loftsman@upnaway.com
To: Bob & Debbie Huddleston huddlestonB_D@email.msn.com
Cc: Trawler List trawler-world-list@samurai.com
Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 1999 7:57 PM
Subject: Re: TWL: Dripless Packing
AMEN! Why would you want to have an ancient techknowledgy that lets
water
ito your boat?
So I can fix it anywhere, anytime, and quickly, without spares and
with
only a
crescent and a knife blade. So I don't need to contact a supplier for
parts, arrange
payment, wait for delivery at some remote outpost, all at great
expense
and all
presupposing communication exists.
So I don't need to canvass opinions on various versions before finally
biting
the bullet, paying up and hoping to God it works. So I don't need one
more
"operation manual" full of dire warnings and warranty cop-outs. So
that
installation
has no critical adjustments and because it is tried and proven over
hundreds of
years in thousands and thousands of vessels in an application of first
importance.
That's why. DJ
Response from Bob Huddleston----------
You have a point, but I think you are just incorrect. You have focused on
one small area of your boat to try to blast newer technology. At the risk of
setting off a firestorm, this goes for Al also. Your comments may discourage
those who are newer to boating. You say you want to have onboard systems
that you can fix -- and without carrying a lot of spares. Well try to fix
your GPS or Loran or autopilot or VHS or Ham Radio or Single Sideband.
Jeez!, this could go on and on. Let us get to simpler systems. Do you think
that , without spare parts you can fix your bilge pumps. The newer ones have
computer chips in them--good luck. How about trying to rebuild your
injection pump at sea? You have focused on a not very new technology and
condemned it without rational reason. It is great that you can repack your
shaft seal--and I presume your head seal as well-- but I think your
reasoning is spurious. Of course, this is just my opinion.