Re: T&T: six pack license?
i wouldnt worry about getting friends to pitch in with groceries and fuel
money...
USCG license experience works in days, not hours.
&nb sp; it's 360 days. A USCG day is FOUR hours underway in a 24 hours
period (time docked or anchored doens't count...), incl 90 days (I
think) within the last year).
It's an odd system, based on commercial vessel requirement. for
instance, if you take a sportfish across to bimini for the week end every
year for 10 years, legally that counts as ZERO since it's a 2 hour run
and you are coming back the next day. but if you take a 13' whaler drift
fishing for 4 hours... that counts.
Pascal
Miami, fl
hatteras 53MY
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Subject: T&T: six pack license?
From: David H Sorenson davidsorenson@juno.com
Date: Mon, February 09, 2009 3:50 pm
To: trawlers-and-trawlering@lists.samurai.com
Well, fellow listees, I know some of this has been hashed out before,
but
a question or two. We often have guests aboard (sometimes overnight).
The
admiral thinks it kosher to suggest they chip in for groceries
consumed
and fuel burned.
How does this interface with not having a CG commercial captains
license? (I think its knicknamed "six pack," though I cant recall the
proper acronym.)
Then assuming I decide to go ahead and get the six pack, how many
hours
of sea time are required as a prerequisite and how is that
determined/verified? 100 hours seems to stick in my mind. Advice
welcome.
David Sorenson
Duluth, MN
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The time required is defined by regulation. The guidelines used to
determine compliance are interpreted by the CG. Whatever time you have
will be considered. You will have less difficulty getting credit if your
experience fits neatly into the guidelines.
Whatever experience you have will generally qualify you for some sort of
license, but may have restrictions. The only way to KNOW is to ask.
If you are going to actually carry passengers for hire, requiring a
license, then you have to have insurance for same and a bunch of other
red tape may come into play.
The latest law about 1994 has a pamphlet, on the USCG web site, that
defines what is carrying for hire. Generally a contribution to food and
fuel won't be. Read the pamphlet.
Regards,
Mike
Capt. Mike Maurice
Tigard Oregon(Near Portland)
I don't think your biggest problem is that the Coast Guard would stop and
fine you for exchanging a boat ride for beer. I think your biggest worry is
that if there were an accident the survivors or their heirs would make a
case that you were carrying passengers for hire without a license.
Sounds stupid, but here in Oregon the other day a jury decided a case where
a Mom opened a window and didn't supervise her child, who fell out. The
jury decided for over a half million dollars that it was the fault of the
landlord.
By the way, the Coast Guard doesn't like the phrase "six pack license." It
is Operator of Uninspected Passenger Vessel or OUPV.
Todd
"Todd Mains" pilothouse50@gmail.com writes:
I don't think your biggest problem is that the Coast Guard would stop and
fine you for exchanging a boat ride for beer. I think your biggest worry is
that if there were an accident the survivors or their heirs would make a
case that you were carrying passengers for hire without a license.
And the even bigger problem is that your insurance company would drop you
like a hot potato. Read your insurance policy, it will be very clear that you
are not covered to carry passengers for hire.
Scott Welch
Product Manager, Open Text Collaboration Solutions Group
www.firstclass.com
"Things turn out best for people who make the best of the way things turn
out." - John Wooden
many/some policy will allow occasional chartering at no extra costs. from
my experience, some may allow 30 days a year, others more. check with your
insurer.
Pascal
miami, fl
70 hatteras 53MY
----- Original Message -----
From: "Scott H.E. Welch" scott@firstclass.com
And the even bigger problem is that your insurance company would drop you
like a hot potato. Read your insurance policy, it will be very clear that
you
are not covered to carry passengers for hire.