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salt water or fresh water in the bilge

BA
Bruce Adornato
Tue, Feb 23, 2021 11:31 PM

I have a puzzling collection of water in my aft bilge compartment in my
Mainship 30 Pilot I.
I have a dripless PSS shaft seal which I am convinced is not leaking after
just having it replaced and checking it and the
cooling water hose from the engine seawater flow.

I should be able to find the leak but it is very slow and I need to go back
to square one and vacuum it all out and dry it to see if i can find the
leak.  It is at the bottom of a very deep and inaccessible hole under the
fuel tank.  It is about a gallon of water over two weeks of accumulation
complicated by raining here last week.

Today just for the heck of it I stuck my finger in it and licked.  Not very
salty at least compared (I think) to hanging my hand in the bay over the
transom.  I would very much like it to be fresh water which could be
somewhere in the fresh water system or rainwater.  I was thinking about
putting some food coloring in the fresh water tank.

Is there an easy definitive test of sea water vs maybe a little salty
freshwater to distinguish the two?  Will an egg float in sea water?

--
bruce

I have a puzzling collection of water in my aft bilge compartment in my Mainship 30 Pilot I. I have a dripless PSS shaft seal which I am convinced is not leaking after just having it replaced and checking it and the cooling water hose from the engine seawater flow. I should be able to find the leak but it is very slow and I need to go back to square one and vacuum it all out and dry it to see if i can find the leak. It is at the bottom of a very deep and inaccessible hole under the fuel tank. It is about a gallon of water over two weeks of accumulation complicated by raining here last week. Today just for the heck of it I stuck my finger in it and licked. Not very salty at least compared (I think) to hanging my hand in the bay over the transom. I would very much like it to be fresh water which could be somewhere in the fresh water system or rainwater. I was thinking about putting some food coloring in the fresh water tank. Is there an easy definitive test of sea water vs maybe a little salty freshwater to distinguish the two? Will an egg float in sea water? -- bruce
MD
michael dolishny
Tue, Feb 23, 2021 11:50 PM

You can get a cheap hydrometer

Boxtech Aquarium Marine Test Sea Saltwater Hydrometer Reef - Ocean Hydrometer Salinity Meter - for Fish Tank Water Salinity Specific

Sent from my iPad

On Feb 23, 2021, at 6:33 PM, Bruce Adornato via Trawlers-and-Trawlering trawlers@lists.trawlering.com wrote:

I have a puzzling collection of water in my aft bilge compartment in my
Mainship 30 Pilot I.
I have a dripless PSS shaft seal which I am convinced is not leaking after
just having it replaced and checking it and the
cooling water hose from the engine seawater flow.

I should be able to find the leak but it is very slow and I need to go back
to square one and vacuum it all out and dry it to see if i can find the
leak.  It is at the bottom of a very deep and inaccessible hole under the
fuel tank.  It is about a gallon of water over two weeks of accumulation
complicated by raining here last week.

Today just for the heck of it I stuck my finger in it and licked.  Not very
salty at least compared (I think) to hanging my hand in the bay over the
transom.  I would very much like it to be fresh water which could be
somewhere in the fresh water system or rainwater.  I was thinking about
putting some food coloring in the fresh water tank.

Is there an easy definitive test of sea water vs maybe a little salty
freshwater to distinguish the two?  Will an egg float in sea water?

--
bruce


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You can get a cheap hydrometer Boxtech Aquarium Marine Test Sea Saltwater Hydrometer Reef - Ocean Hydrometer Salinity Meter - for Fish Tank Water Salinity Specific Sent from my iPad > On Feb 23, 2021, at 6:33 PM, Bruce Adornato via Trawlers-and-Trawlering <trawlers@lists.trawlering.com> wrote: > > I have a puzzling collection of water in my aft bilge compartment in my > Mainship 30 Pilot I. > I have a dripless PSS shaft seal which I am convinced is not leaking after > just having it replaced and checking it and the > cooling water hose from the engine seawater flow. > > I should be able to find the leak but it is very slow and I need to go back > to square one and vacuum it all out and dry it to see if i can find the > leak. It is at the bottom of a very deep and inaccessible hole under the > fuel tank. It is about a gallon of water over two weeks of accumulation > complicated by raining here last week. > > Today just for the heck of it I stuck my finger in it and licked. Not very > salty at least compared (I think) to hanging my hand in the bay over the > transom. I would very much like it to be fresh water which could be > somewhere in the fresh water system or rainwater. I was thinking about > putting some food coloring in the fresh water tank. > > Is there an easy definitive test of sea water vs maybe a little salty > freshwater to distinguish the two? Will an egg float in sea water? > > > > > -- > bruce > _______________________________________________ > http://lists.trawlering.com/mailman/listinfo/trawlers_lists.trawlering.com > > To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options (get password, change email address, etc) go to: http://lists.trawlering.com/mailman/listinfo/trawlers_lists.trawlering.com > Trawlers & Trawlering and T&T are trademarks of Water World > Productions. Unauthorized use is prohibited.
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Steve Bedford
Thu, Feb 25, 2021 12:11 PM

Try a salt water pool test kit for salinity.  It measures the degree of salinity so it can determine if it is saltwater or freshwater.  My recommendation is to do a test sample of water in your fresh water system first, record that ppm reading then do the water in the bilge to compare.

Steve

Steve Bedford
laVITA, 2007 Jefferson Rivanna 45’
maxmarineproducts.com
Home of Super MAX Anchors
Burgess, Virginia

Sent from my iPad. Please excuse misused words due to the "auto correct" function.

On Feb 23, 2021, at 6:33 PM, Bruce Adornato via Trawlers-and-Trawlering trawlers@lists.trawlering.com wrote:

I have a puzzling collection of water in my aft bilge compartment in my
Mainship 30 Pilot I.
I have a dripless PSS shaft seal which I am convinced is not leaking after
just having it replaced and checking it and the
cooling water hose from the engine seawater flow.

I should be able to find the leak but it is very slow and I need to go back
to square one and vacuum it all out and dry it to see if i can find the
leak.  It is at the bottom of a very deep and inaccessible hole under the
fuel tank.  It is about a gallon of water over two weeks of accumulation
complicated by raining here last week.

Today just for the heck of it I stuck my finger in it and licked.  Not very
salty at least compared (I think) to hanging my hand in the bay over the
transom.  I would very much like it to be fresh water which could be
somewhere in the fresh water system or rainwater.  I was thinking about
putting some food coloring in the fresh water tank.

Is there an easy definitive test of sea water vs maybe a little salty
freshwater to distinguish the two?  Will an egg float in sea water?

--
bruce


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Try a salt water pool test kit for salinity. It measures the degree of salinity so it can determine if it is saltwater or freshwater. My recommendation is to do a test sample of water in your fresh water system first, record that ppm reading then do the water in the bilge to compare. Steve ---------------- Steve Bedford laVITA, 2007 Jefferson Rivanna 45’ maxmarineproducts.com Home of Super MAX Anchors Burgess, Virginia Sent from my iPad. Please excuse misused words due to the "auto correct" function. > On Feb 23, 2021, at 6:33 PM, Bruce Adornato via Trawlers-and-Trawlering <trawlers@lists.trawlering.com> wrote: > > I have a puzzling collection of water in my aft bilge compartment in my > Mainship 30 Pilot I. > I have a dripless PSS shaft seal which I am convinced is not leaking after > just having it replaced and checking it and the > cooling water hose from the engine seawater flow. > > I should be able to find the leak but it is very slow and I need to go back > to square one and vacuum it all out and dry it to see if i can find the > leak. It is at the bottom of a very deep and inaccessible hole under the > fuel tank. It is about a gallon of water over two weeks of accumulation > complicated by raining here last week. > > Today just for the heck of it I stuck my finger in it and licked. Not very > salty at least compared (I think) to hanging my hand in the bay over the > transom. I would very much like it to be fresh water which could be > somewhere in the fresh water system or rainwater. I was thinking about > putting some food coloring in the fresh water tank. > > Is there an easy definitive test of sea water vs maybe a little salty > freshwater to distinguish the two? Will an egg float in sea water? > > > > > -- > bruce > _______________________________________________ > http://lists.trawlering.com/mailman/listinfo/trawlers_lists.trawlering.com > > To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options (get password, change email address, etc) go to: http://lists.trawlering.com/mailman/listinfo/trawlers_lists.trawlering.com > Trawlers & Trawlering and T&T are trademarks of Water World > Productions. Unauthorized use is prohibited.
RS
Rudy Sechez
Thu, Feb 25, 2021 2:12 PM

I was recently asked to solve a leak into an isolated bilge compartment
where there was no apparent way for water to get in. Eventually, a look,
difficult in itself, revealed evidence of water leaking from a thru-hull
installed directly above this compartment. Checking outside, the boat was
listing enough to immerse the thru-hull  below the water level. Shifting
trim ballast righted the vessel, putting the thru-hull back to it's
designed distance above the water level.

*Rudy & Jill Sechez *
*BRINEY BUG-a 34' Sail-Assisted Trawler *
850-832-7748
www.trawlertrainingabc.com http://www.trawlertrainingabc.com
Cocoa FL

On Thu, Feb 25, 2021 at 9:01 AM Steve Bedford via Trawlers-and-Trawlering <
trawlers@lists.trawlering.com> wrote:

Try a salt water pool test kit for salinity.  It measures the degree of
salinity so it can determine if it is saltwater or freshwater.  My
recommendation is to do a test sample of water in your fresh water system
first, record that ppm reading then do the water in the bilge to compare.

Steve

Steve Bedford
laVITA, 2007 Jefferson Rivanna 45’
maxmarineproducts.com
Home of Super MAX Anchors
Burgess, Virginia

Sent from my iPad. Please excuse misused words due to the "auto correct"
function.

On Feb 23, 2021, at 6:33 PM, Bruce Adornato via Trawlers-and-Trawlering <

I have a puzzling collection of water in my aft bilge compartment in my
Mainship 30 Pilot I.
I have a dripless PSS shaft seal which I am convinced is not leaking

after

just having it replaced and checking it and the
cooling water hose from the engine seawater flow.

I should be able to find the leak but it is very slow and I need to go

back

to square one and vacuum it all out and dry it to see if i can find the
leak.  It is at the bottom of a very deep and inaccessible hole under the
fuel tank.  It is about a gallon of water over two weeks of accumulation
complicated by raining here last week.

Today just for the heck of it I stuck my finger in it and licked.  Not

very

salty at least compared (I think) to hanging my hand in the bay over the
transom.  I would very much like it to be fresh water which could be
somewhere in the fresh water system or rainwater.  I was thinking about
putting some food coloring in the fresh water tank.

Is there an easy definitive test of sea water vs maybe a little salty
freshwater to distinguish the two?  Will an egg float in sea water?

--
bruce


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I was recently asked to solve a leak into an isolated bilge compartment where there was no apparent way for water to get in. Eventually, a look, difficult in itself, revealed evidence of water leaking from a thru-hull installed directly above this compartment. Checking outside, the boat was listing enough to immerse the thru-hull below the water level. Shifting trim ballast righted the vessel, putting the thru-hull back to it's designed distance above the water level. *Rudy & Jill Sechez * *BRINEY BUG-a 34' Sail-Assisted Trawler * *850-832-7748* *www.trawlertrainingabc.com <http://www.trawlertrainingabc.com>* Cocoa FL On Thu, Feb 25, 2021 at 9:01 AM Steve Bedford via Trawlers-and-Trawlering < trawlers@lists.trawlering.com> wrote: > Try a salt water pool test kit for salinity. It measures the degree of > salinity so it can determine if it is saltwater or freshwater. My > recommendation is to do a test sample of water in your fresh water system > first, record that ppm reading then do the water in the bilge to compare. > > Steve > ---------------- > Steve Bedford > laVITA, 2007 Jefferson Rivanna 45’ > maxmarineproducts.com > Home of Super MAX Anchors > Burgess, Virginia > > Sent from my iPad. Please excuse misused words due to the "auto correct" > function. > > > On Feb 23, 2021, at 6:33 PM, Bruce Adornato via Trawlers-and-Trawlering < > trawlers@lists.trawlering.com> wrote: > > > > I have a puzzling collection of water in my aft bilge compartment in my > > Mainship 30 Pilot I. > > I have a dripless PSS shaft seal which I am convinced is not leaking > after > > just having it replaced and checking it and the > > cooling water hose from the engine seawater flow. > > > > I should be able to find the leak but it is very slow and I need to go > back > > to square one and vacuum it all out and dry it to see if i can find the > > leak. It is at the bottom of a very deep and inaccessible hole under the > > fuel tank. It is about a gallon of water over two weeks of accumulation > > complicated by raining here last week. > > > > Today just for the heck of it I stuck my finger in it and licked. Not > very > > salty at least compared (I think) to hanging my hand in the bay over the > > transom. I would very much like it to be fresh water which could be > > somewhere in the fresh water system or rainwater. I was thinking about > > putting some food coloring in the fresh water tank. > > > > Is there an easy definitive test of sea water vs maybe a little salty > > freshwater to distinguish the two? Will an egg float in sea water? > > > > > > > > > > -- > > bruce > > _______________________________________________ > > > http://lists.trawlering.com/mailman/listinfo/trawlers_lists.trawlering.com > > > > To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options (get password, change > email address, etc) go to: > http://lists.trawlering.com/mailman/listinfo/trawlers_lists.trawlering.com > > Trawlers & Trawlering and T&T are trademarks of Water World > > Productions. Unauthorized use is prohibited. > _______________________________________________ > http://lists.trawlering.com/mailman/listinfo/trawlers_lists.trawlering.com > > To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options (get password, change > email address, etc) go to: > http://lists.trawlering.com/mailman/listinfo/trawlers_lists.trawlering.com > Trawlers & Trawlering and T&T are trademarks of Water World > Productions. Unauthorized use is prohibited. >