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Re: [USRP-users] B200/210 Phase Noise?

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Eric Haskell
Fri, Jun 5, 2015 12:09 AM

Thanks for the replies.  I did not see any LO spectral plots in the AD data sheet only some RMS jitter numbers.  The plots posted at https://ez.analog.com/thread/46362  looked interesting but hard to quantify without the resolution bandwidth listed.

Regards,
Eric Haskell

Thanks for the replies. I did not see any LO spectral plots in the AD data sheet only some RMS jitter numbers. The plots posted at https://ez.analog.com/thread/46362 looked interesting but hard to quantify without the resolution bandwidth listed. Regards, Eric Haskell
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Matt Ettus
Fri, Jun 5, 2015 12:39 AM

The older versions of the AD9361 datasheet had plots.  I'm not sure
why they were removed.  I'll try to dig them up.

Matt

On Fri, Jun 5, 2015 at 9:09 AM, Eric Haskell via USRP-users
usrp-users@lists.ettus.com wrote:

Thanks for the replies.  I did not see any LO spectral plots in the AD data
sheet only some RMS jitter numbers.  The plots posted at
https://ez.analog.com/thread/46362  looked interesting but hard to quantify
without the resolution bandwidth listed.

Regards,
Eric Haskell


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The older versions of the AD9361 datasheet had plots. I'm not sure why they were removed. I'll try to dig them up. Matt On Fri, Jun 5, 2015 at 9:09 AM, Eric Haskell via USRP-users <usrp-users@lists.ettus.com> wrote: > Thanks for the replies. I did not see any LO spectral plots in the AD data > sheet only some RMS jitter numbers. The plots posted at > https://ez.analog.com/thread/46362 looked interesting but hard to quantify > without the resolution bandwidth listed. > > Regards, > Eric Haskell > > _______________________________________________ > USRP-users mailing list > USRP-users@lists.ettus.com > http://lists.ettus.com/mailman/listinfo/usrp-users_lists.ettus.com >
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Marcus D. Leech
Fri, Jun 5, 2015 12:45 AM

On 06/04/2015 08:39 PM, Matt Ettus via USRP-users wrote:

The older versions of the AD9361 datasheet had plots.  I'm not sure
why they were removed.  I'll try to dig them up.

Matt

I do wonder how any such plots were derived, since there's no external
manifestation of the LO as a pin on the chip, unless my eyes glazed over.

On Fri, Jun 5, 2015 at 9:09 AM, Eric Haskell via USRP-users
usrp-users@lists.ettus.com wrote:

Thanks for the replies.  I did not see any LO spectral plots in the AD data
sheet only some RMS jitter numbers.  The plots posted at
https://ez.analog.com/thread/46362  looked interesting but hard to quantify
without the resolution bandwidth listed.

Regards,
Eric Haskell


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On 06/04/2015 08:39 PM, Matt Ettus via USRP-users wrote: > The older versions of the AD9361 datasheet had plots. I'm not sure > why they were removed. I'll try to dig them up. > > Matt I do wonder how any such plots were derived, since there's no external manifestation of the LO as a pin on the chip, unless my eyes glazed over. > > On Fri, Jun 5, 2015 at 9:09 AM, Eric Haskell via USRP-users > <usrp-users@lists.ettus.com> wrote: >> Thanks for the replies. I did not see any LO spectral plots in the AD data >> sheet only some RMS jitter numbers. The plots posted at >> https://ez.analog.com/thread/46362 looked interesting but hard to quantify >> without the resolution bandwidth listed. >> >> Regards, >> Eric Haskell >> >> _______________________________________________ >> USRP-users mailing list >> USRP-users@lists.ettus.com >> http://lists.ettus.com/mailman/listinfo/usrp-users_lists.ettus.com >> > _______________________________________________ > USRP-users mailing list > USRP-users@lists.ettus.com > http://lists.ettus.com/mailman/listinfo/usrp-users_lists.ettus.com
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Matt Ettus
Fri, Jun 5, 2015 1:41 AM

You can measure the phase noise by generating a constant digital
signal (DC).  The output is then the LO.  Alternatively, you input a
very clean signal to the RX and postprocess the results.  For
datasheets, they likely use a wafer probe to probe the LO on die.

Matt

On Fri, Jun 5, 2015 at 9:45 AM, Marcus D. Leech via USRP-users
usrp-users@lists.ettus.com wrote:

On 06/04/2015 08:39 PM, Matt Ettus via USRP-users wrote:

The older versions of the AD9361 datasheet had plots.  I'm not sure
why they were removed.  I'll try to dig them up.

Matt

I do wonder how any such plots were derived, since there's no external
manifestation of the LO as a pin on the chip, unless my eyes glazed over.

On Fri, Jun 5, 2015 at 9:09 AM, Eric Haskell via USRP-users
usrp-users@lists.ettus.com wrote:

Thanks for the replies.  I did not see any LO spectral plots in the AD
data
sheet only some RMS jitter numbers.  The plots posted at
https://ez.analog.com/thread/46362  looked interesting but hard to
quantify
without the resolution bandwidth listed.

Regards,
Eric Haskell


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You can measure the phase noise by generating a constant digital signal (DC). The output is then the LO. Alternatively, you input a very clean signal to the RX and postprocess the results. For datasheets, they likely use a wafer probe to probe the LO on die. Matt On Fri, Jun 5, 2015 at 9:45 AM, Marcus D. Leech via USRP-users <usrp-users@lists.ettus.com> wrote: > On 06/04/2015 08:39 PM, Matt Ettus via USRP-users wrote: >> >> The older versions of the AD9361 datasheet had plots. I'm not sure >> why they were removed. I'll try to dig them up. >> >> Matt > > I do wonder how any such plots were derived, since there's no external > manifestation of the LO as a pin on the chip, unless my eyes glazed over. > > >> >> On Fri, Jun 5, 2015 at 9:09 AM, Eric Haskell via USRP-users >> <usrp-users@lists.ettus.com> wrote: >>> >>> Thanks for the replies. I did not see any LO spectral plots in the AD >>> data >>> sheet only some RMS jitter numbers. The plots posted at >>> https://ez.analog.com/thread/46362 looked interesting but hard to >>> quantify >>> without the resolution bandwidth listed. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Eric Haskell >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> USRP-users mailing list >>> USRP-users@lists.ettus.com >>> http://lists.ettus.com/mailman/listinfo/usrp-users_lists.ettus.com >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> USRP-users mailing list >> USRP-users@lists.ettus.com >> http://lists.ettus.com/mailman/listinfo/usrp-users_lists.ettus.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > USRP-users mailing list > USRP-users@lists.ettus.com > http://lists.ettus.com/mailman/listinfo/usrp-users_lists.ettus.com