See you Friday night!

Tom Holmes, N8ZM

Well, probably not.  Don't think I can make it in time.

Daun

Daun E. Yeagley, II, N8ASB

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See you Friday night!

Tom Holmes, N8ZM

Just a lack of dedication.

Tom Holmes, N8ZM

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Well, probably not.  Don't think I can make it in time.

Daun

Daun E. Yeagley, II, N8ASB

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See you Friday night!

Tom Holmes, N8ZM

But it's more fun down here.....

Daun E. Yeagley, II, N8ASB

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Just a lack of dedication.

Tom Holmes, N8ZM

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Well, probably not.  Don't think I can make it in time.

Daun

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On a Friday night in the middle of a jungle?

Tom Holmes, N8ZM

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But it's more fun down here.....

Daun E. Yeagley, II, N8ASB

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Just a lack of dedication.

Tom Holmes, N8ZM

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Well, probably not.  Don't think I can make it in time.

Daun

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It's at the edge of a rain forest.  And Dana and I will probably have dinner in town tomorrow night (Arecibo, or maybe Hatillo).

I'll be thinking of you all.

Daun

Daun E. Yeagley, II, N8ASB

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On a Friday night in the middle of a jungle?

Tom Holmes, N8ZM

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But it's more fun down here.....

Daun E. Yeagley, II, N8ASB

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Just a lack of dedication.

Tom Holmes, N8ZM

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Well, probably not.  Don't think I can make it in time.

Daun

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HI Jim…

Missed that when I read through it quickly, but thanks for the catch. I’ll see to it that the editor is made aware of that issue. Having worked in a lab for large motor and generators many, many years ago, I am well aware that shafts really do not to be twisted like that.

Thanks!

Tom Holmes, N8ZM

From: Jim Sanford [mailto:wb4gcs@wb4gcs.org]
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Tom:
Great issue.
One comment:
The article about regenerative breaking is incorrect when it says the direction of motor rotation is reversed.  It is not -- armature and field excitations are changed such that it ceases being a motor and becomes a generator.

Think about it, the torques involved in instantaneous reversal would be enormous, uncomfortable for vehicle occupants, and even more so for the shaft of the device, for it's very short life.

73,
Jim
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Now that I've had a chance to read it more closely, I'd really expect reversing the motor would simply break loose the drive wheels as they reversed direction and thus would leave serious skid marks and certainly bring you to a screeching halt.

Remember how you could burn rubber with a slightly under-torqued sedan by getting up some speed in reverse, the popping it into Drive with the throttle nearly floored?

And how your old man would be pissed when you had to tell him the tranny failed?

Tom Holmes, N8ZM

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HI Jim…

Missed that when I read through it quickly, but thanks for the catch. I’ll see to it that the editor is made aware of that issue. Having worked in a lab for large motor and generators many, many years ago, I am well aware that shafts really do not to be twisted like that.

Thanks!

Tom Holmes, N8ZM

From: Jim Sanford [mailto:wb4gcs@wb4gcs.org]
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Tom:
Great issue.
One comment:
The article about regenerative breaking is incorrect when it says the direction of motor rotation is reversed.  It is not -- armature and field excitations are changed such that it ceases being a motor and becomes a generator.

Think about it, the torques involved in instantaneous reversal would be enormous, uncomfortable for vehicle occupants, and even more so for the shaft of the device, for it's very short life.

73,
Jim
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Hmmmmm.... Something tells me that you actually did that. How long did your old man ground you for? I did a few neutral slams in my Dads 1972 New Yorker. He never found out about that...
73 de Sam N8VES

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Now that I've had a chance to read it more closely, I'd really expect reversing the motor would simply break loose the drive wheels as they reversed direction and thus would leave serious skid marks and certainly bring you to a screeching halt.

Remember how you could burn rubber with a slightly under-torqued sedan by getting up some speed in reverse, the popping it into Drive with the throttle nearly floored?

And how your old man would be pissed when you had to tell him the tranny failed?

Tom Holmes, N8ZM

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HI Jim…

Missed that when I read through it quickly, but thanks for the catch. I’ll see to it that the editor is made aware of that issue. Having worked in a lab for large motor and generators many, many years ago, I am well aware that shafts really do not to be twisted like that.

Thanks!

Tom Holmes, N8ZM

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Tom:
Great issue.
One comment:
The article about regenerative breaking is incorrect when it says the direction of motor rotation is reversed.  It is not -- armature and field excitations are changed such that it ceases being a motor and becomes a generator.

Think about it, the torques involved in instantaneous reversal would be enormous, uncomfortable for vehicle occupants, and even more so for the shaft of the device, for it's very short life.

73,
Jim
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Never had to do that kind of stuff. The old man was a car nut and wouldn’t think of having anything that wouldn’t burn rubber just by stomping on the loud pedal.

Tom Holmes, N8ZM

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Hmmmmm.... Something tells me that you actually did that. How long did your old man ground you for? I did a few neutral slams in my Dads 1972 New Yorker. He never found out about that...

73 de Sam N8VES

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Now that I've had a chance to read it more closely, I'd really expect reversing the motor would simply break loose the drive wheels as they reversed direction and thus would leave serious skid marks and certainly bring you to a screeching halt.

Remember how you could burn rubber with a slightly under-torqued sedan by getting up some speed in reverse, the popping it into Drive with the throttle nearly floored?

And how your old man would be pissed when you had to tell him the tranny failed?

Tom Holmes, N8ZM

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HI Jim…

Missed that when I read through it quickly, but thanks for the catch. I’ll see to it that the editor is made aware of that issue. Having worked in a lab for large motor and generators many, many years ago, I am well aware that shafts really do not to be twisted like that.

Thanks!

Tom Holmes, N8ZM

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Subject: Re: [mvus-list] April Anom Prop

Tom:
Great issue.
One comment:
The article about regenerative breaking is incorrect when it says the direction of motor rotation is reversed.  It is not -- armature and field excitations are changed such that it ceases being a motor and becomes a generator.

Think about it, the torques involved in instantaneous reversal would be enormous, uncomfortable for vehicle occupants, and even more so for the shaft of the device, for it's very short life.

73,
Jim
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On Friday, April 22, 2016 1:56 PM, Tom Holmes via mvus-list <mvus-list@febo.com> wrote:

Never had to do that kind of stuff. The old man was a car nut and wouldn’t think of having anything that wouldn’t burn rubber just by stomping on the loud pedal.

Tom Holmes, N8ZM

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Hmmmmm.... Something tells me that you actually did that. How long did your old man ground you for? I did a few neutral slams in my Dads 1972 New Yorker. He never found out about that...

73 de Sam N8VES

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Now that I've had a chance to read it more closely, I'd really expect reversing the motor would simply break loose the drive wheels as they reversed direction and thus would leave serious skid marks and certainly bring you to a screeching halt.

Remember how you could burn rubber with a slightly under-torqued sedan by getting up some speed in reverse, the popping it into Drive with the throttle nearly floored?

And how your old man would be pissed when you had to tell him the tranny failed?

Tom Holmes, N8ZM

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Subject: Re: [mvus-list] April Anom Prop

HI Jim…

Missed that when I read through it quickly, but thanks for the catch. I’ll see to it that the editor is made aware of that issue. Having worked in a lab for large motor and generators many, many years ago, I am well aware that shafts really do not to be twisted like that.

Thanks!

Tom Holmes, N8ZM

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Subject: Re: [mvus-list] April Anom Prop

Tom:
Great issue.
One comment:
The article about regenerative breaking is incorrect when it says the direction of motor rotation is reversed.  It is not -- armature and field excitations are changed such that it ceases being a motor and becomes a generator.

Think about it, the torques involved in instantaneous reversal would be enormous, uncomfortable for vehicle occupants, and even more so for the shaft of the device, for it's very short life.

73,
Jim
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