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TWL: Re: Two Gjoas?

L
LRZeitlin@aol.com
Mon, Oct 30, 2000 7:36 PM

In a message dated 10/30/00 5:01:30 AM, Bob questions:

<< Are there two "Gjoas"?

That's a good question and I don't know the answer. All I can say is that
this summer I visited Oslo and a wooden cutter named Gjoa was displayed on a
plaza in front of the Fram Museum. I even took a picture of it. Nansen and
Amundsen are both idolized figures in Norway and every third street is named
Nansen Avenue or Amundsen Place. Oslo was celebrating its 1000th birthday and
a number of festivities were based on the Arctic and Antarctic explorations
of the two gentlemen. If the Gjoa's LOA was given as 22 meters, it must have
included the relatively long bowsprit.

Perhaps some marine historian can give us the correct answer.

Larry Zeitlin
PUFFIN
Cortlandt Manor, NY

In a message dated 10/30/00 5:01:30 AM, Bob questions: << Are there two "Gjoas"? >> That's a good question and I don't know the answer. All I can say is that this summer I visited Oslo and a wooden cutter named Gjoa was displayed on a plaza in front of the Fram Museum. I even took a picture of it. Nansen and Amundsen are both idolized figures in Norway and every third street is named Nansen Avenue or Amundsen Place. Oslo was celebrating its 1000th birthday and a number of festivities were based on the Arctic and Antarctic explorations of the two gentlemen. If the Gjoa's LOA was given as 22 meters, it must have included the relatively long bowsprit. Perhaps some marine historian can give us the correct answer. Larry Zeitlin PUFFIN Cortlandt Manor, NY
W
weldred@zoo.uvm.edu
Mon, Oct 30, 2000 8:25 PM

Larry:

A computer generated image of the gjoa is available at the following web site:

http://www.lookoutnow.com/3d/gjoa.htm

More realistic is this model:

http://www.tutwilervickeryfineart.com/gjoa.htm

This excerpt from a report on the "Maude" indicates that the Gjoa completed only
part of the Northwest passage:

                   The Baymaud
                   Underwater Treasure of Cambridge Bay

                         Born in Asker, Norway on June 7, 1917 as Maud, this

ship was
the culmination of all of Arctic explorer Roald Amundsen's
ideas
about what qualities a stout Arctic research ship should
possess. Her
first voyage, and indeed the rest of her life, proved his
ideas to be
correct. Now, however, she lies in shallow water in Carl's
Bay, a
small section of Cambridge Bay.

                         The Maud's first voyage lasted 3 years, crossing

from Norway to
Alaska through the Northeast Passage. Amundsen barely
suvived the
voyage after being mauled by a polar bear and then being
poisoned
by carbon monoxide in a research tent, but when the
expedition
arrived in Nome on July 27, 1920, he became the first
person to
cicumnavigate the globe in Arctic waters. In 1905, guided
by a group
of Inuit in kayaks, he had sailed the Gjoa through the
final section of
the fabled Northwest Passage, from Gjoa Haven to Cambridge
Bay;
the Northeast Passage voyage completed the
circumnavigation.

Wesley Eldred
Little Bitt - 37' LNVT
So Burlington,  VT

LRZeitlin@aol.com wrote:

<< Are there two "Gjoas"?

Larry: A computer generated image of the gjoa is available at the following web site: http://www.lookoutnow.com/3d/gjoa.htm More realistic is this model: http://www.tutwilervickeryfineart.com/gjoa.htm This excerpt from a report on the "Maude" indicates that the Gjoa completed only part of the Northwest passage: The Baymaud Underwater Treasure of Cambridge Bay Born in Asker, Norway on June 7, 1917 as Maud, this ship was the culmination of all of Arctic explorer Roald Amundsen's ideas about what qualities a stout Arctic research ship should possess. Her first voyage, and indeed the rest of her life, proved his ideas to be correct. Now, however, she lies in shallow water in Carl's Bay, a small section of Cambridge Bay. The Maud's first voyage lasted 3 years, crossing from Norway to Alaska through the Northeast Passage. Amundsen barely suvived the voyage after being mauled by a polar bear and then being poisoned by carbon monoxide in a research tent, but when the expedition arrived in Nome on July 27, 1920, he became the first person to cicumnavigate the globe in Arctic waters. In 1905, guided by a group of Inuit in kayaks, he had sailed the Gjoa through the final section of the fabled Northwest Passage, from Gjoa Haven to Cambridge Bay; the Northeast Passage voyage completed the circumnavigation. Wesley Eldred Little Bitt - 37' LNVT So Burlington, VT LRZeitlin@aol.com wrote: > << Are there two "Gjoas"? > >>