Dear Björn,

i did alredy try to send you a mail to your personal address, but it has
been blocked due to reasons i do not know. Please supply a email adress
to that i can send some info in pdf.

Regards
Ulrich

df6jb@ulrich-bangert.de

Ulrich Bangert wrote:

And if it is any help I have the pin outs for a 1150 oscillator. It also
uses a 9 pin connector.

Bill K7NOM

I got a few more pins from Marco. I got the full pinout for a FTS space
oscillator with a 9 pin DSUB. But the space oscillator pinout had no
resemblance to the pins I know on the 1200.

I am all ears on the 1150 pinout!

Thanks,

Björn

You might try this pin out set. It is for one of the 1150s but I believe
most of the others are basically the same. They had quite a few different
versions of the 1150 is the reason I say that. I purchased the remaining
parts stock from them some time back and got quite a few schematics with it.
Most of the changes were internal but some of them they changed the RF out
to a SMA or other types of connectors.

Pin #1    Ground

Pin #2    oscillator monitor

Pin #3    Heater and main power input +15VDC

Pin #4    RF output

Pin #5    Ground

Pin #6    + 8V regulated DC out for using with a electronic tuning circuit

Pin #7    - EFT input

Pin #8    + EFT input

Pin #9    Oven Monitor

On some units, pins 7 and 9 are reversed.

The 1150FW unit has a different pin out than this.

Chuck Norton

Frequency Standards & Services

----- Original Message -----
From: bg@lysator.liu.se
To: billj@ieee.org; "Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement"
time-nuts@febo.com
Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2005 3:33 PM
Subject: Re: AW: [time-nuts] Information about FTS-1200

chuck@frequencystandards.com wrote:

Some info clipped

The pin outs for my  1150 are the same as  shown above but I don't know
for sure about the voltages.
They seem to be the same.

Bill K7NOM

My unit powers up run like this

Pin #5    GND
Pin #8    PWR  (+24V DC)

Pin #1  is also Ground

The seller told me

#1 EFC-  (which I do not understand since its GND)
#2 EFC+
#5 GND
#8 24VDC

A voltage on pin#2 changes the frequency, so #2 is most probably EFC.

checked this yet on my unit.

To bad the 1150 and the 1200 does not seem to share pinout.

Thanks for the info.

--
Björn

Unfortunately, I only got the info on 1100 though 1180. I believe that

many of their oscillators would run with an input power from 8 volts up to
about 26 volts. If you see any of these with the brand name of Austron, they
are the same oscillator, (1100 to 1180). Datum bought them and transferred
most of the production to the old Frequency and Time Systems company which
they also had purchased. Unfortunately they have all been bought up by
Symmetricom and getting information from them is almost impossible. As their
service manager told me about a year ago, "If you have a customer that wants
something of ours repaired, tell them to send it to us. Otherwise, throw it
away because we do not sell parts or schematics to anyone." I have since
found out that in a few instances they have provided them to the military.
Don't be surprised with what happens to the Agilent 5071A and the other
products they are buying from Agilent. My suspicion is they will either get
rid of most of them completely or at the least shut down all access to any
information. I may be incorrect but I don't think I have ever seen a comment
of any kind on this list from anyone with Symmetricom.
I hope I am wrong.
Chuck

----- Original Message -----
From: bg@lysator.liu.se
To: "Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement"
time-nuts@febo.com
Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 2:53 PM
Subject: Re: AW: [time-nuts] Information about FTS-1200

Hi Brooke,

The FTS4050 is just a power supply, and a modular FTS5000 C-Beam in a
very heavy rack mount package.  I have the schematics for all of the boards
in the C-Beam Mocule.

Do you by any chance have a picture of the insides of a 4060?  I am
curious as to the arrangement.

-Chuck

Brooke Clarke wrote:

At 9:26 PM -0400 6/29/05, Chuck Harris wrote:

Chuck,

I wrote to the seller whose 4060 ebay auction just ended (at $3000)
and asked for a photo of the insides. He sent me the top and bottom
inside photos. I'll send them to you via email. I'll post them on my
website if more people want to see them.

--David Forbes, Tucson, AZ
http://www.cathodecorner.com/

Does anyone know why that one went so high?
There were several FTS 4060 earlier this year
that sold for 1/3 or 1/4 of that price.

/tvb

Hi
Tom,

That price really surprised me also. I have two running 4060's, one
military and one civilian, and never paid anything close to $3K. While it
is a very desirable model, option wise, it still went for to much.

Too bad that neither you or I got the Loran-C
Simulator...................it needed a NW home.

Had

At 08:13 PM 6/29/2005, you wrote:

At 8:13 PM -0700 6/29/05, Tom Van Baak wrote:

As far as I can tell, it's just a bidding war. The high bidder has
three feedbacks, the last two of which are for 4060 clocks from
glossa7 for about $1K each. So he's the market maker.

The second-highest bidder is interested in all sorts of timekeeping
equipment, but he's in Germany so you can't read his bidding list
directly - you have to look at the feedback for each item he won. It
may be that he chose yesterday to become interested in 4060 clocks.

Glossa7 bid just under $1K for this clock, which is the same price he
sold each of the  other two for. Perhaps it's cleaner, and/or more
recently made. It wasn't covered in stickers.

I asked the seller for the 4060's cesium tube manufacture date and
the answer was about 7 years old, so it's not a minty-fresh tube.
That's what I was interested in, as I assumed that the life remaining
on the tube is the main price factor on a working clock, much like
the engine life is for an old airplane. Perhaps others aren't so cold
and calculating. Not that I have three grand lying around to spend on
a clock right now.

--

--David Forbes, Tucson, AZ
http://www.cathodecorner.com/

Thanks for all help!

My FTS-1200 behaves like this,

Pinout  #1,#5 Power & EFC return
#2  EFC (0-10V)
#6  Oven monitor (4.7V at start, 3.5V at steady state)
#8  24V DC ((22V to 30V) @25C & 24V; 0.56A at start, 0.09A at
steady state)

EFC range is about 3.5Hz from 0V to +10VR. Not very linear 0.2Hz/V -
0.3Hz/V in the low to middle range, 0.5Hz/V in the upper voltage
range.

Current draw 0.16A 20 minutes after cold start, going below  0.10A
after 40 minutes.

Two outputs @ 1Vrms, two at 0.5Vrms.

Some specifications (from data sheet sent to me)

Output freq      5MHz
Aging per day    1x10-10
Short term 1s    1x10-12
10s  1x10-12
100s  1x10-12

Data sheet tells the FTS 1200 is part of the FTS 1000 series, which
also includes the 5MHz FTS 1000A, 10MHz FTS 1002A and 15MHz FTS 1003A
units.

--

    Björn 

At 23.35 03/07/2005, you wrote:

Hello Bjorn,

very interesting. Would you like to send me a copy of the data sheet?

Thanks,

Marco