Thomas, thanks for your interest. Yes, I was sure I am not alone in my search for best practices and recipes. Or stories of failures to learn from. So we are already 3, because I got a PM from another developer not really located in our Region ;-) Hope to hear from a few more soon. Am 28.09.17 um 10:53 schrieb Thomas Brodt: > > Hi all > > I would be very interested in a group sharing any experience with Glorp. > > We currently have exactly these questions on our list that Joachim > mentions, and some more. And as we also have an Object Lens > Visualworks application, there are interesting questions regarding > similarities and differences between the two, in their usage and their > internals. And besides the rather introductory documentation for basic > operations and mapppings, there is none of the more "advanced" > techniques and best practices that come with a larger business > application if you succeeded with the first steps. > > We're located near the border of Switzerland to Germany, so the region > would match ;-) > > But anyone interested whereever in the world should take this > opportunity to get in touch! > > Thomas > > > Am 28.09.2017 um 08:56 schrieb jtuchel@objektfabrik.de: >> >> Hi there, >> >> >> since nobody at ESUG seemed to be interested in a Glorp/Seaside BOF >> as I suggested, I try something new now ;-) >> >> Glorp is a great tool for OR mapping and works very well. There is >> good introductory material, even if it is hard to find. But when it >> comes to real world use, there are many questions to be answered like >> >> * how to handle transactions, mementos, units of work and that >> stuff, especially in a multi-user environment like a Seaside >> based web app >> * how to map more complicated things, like polymorphic joins, >> embedded objects etc. >> * what if an image slows down gradually when a user has been >> working for hours, almsot coming to a standstill. How to find out >> if Glorp or your use of it is the problem? What can you do then? >> * Is my use of transactions correct or will I face problems >> >> None of these are easy questions and maybe there are many possible >> answers to them, But finding them on your own can be hard and take a >> lot of time. It can even be a risk to your business. >> >> There is the Glorp group, but it's not actually in heavy use and >> sometimes it is hard to write down a problem in a few lines. >> Explaining the whole thing sometimes would make for loooong messages >> that probably nobody ever reads, esp. if the poster's english isn't >> brilliant. >> >> So what I'm looking for is ways to find and meet people who also use >> Glorp (or any other ORM in Smalltalk) and would be interested in >> discussing stuff and maybe answer questions. Something like a Glorp >> users group. >> >> The best thing to exchange ideas is probably to meet face to face and >> carry your laptop with you. So if anybody in Southern Germany, >> Eastern France, Northern Switzerland would be interested in such a >> meeting, please let me know and I am more than interested in setting >> something up. >> >> The second best is probably some sort of online conference call. >> Maybe even on a regular basis. >> >> Please let me know if you'd be interested. >> >> >> Joachim >> -- >> ----------------------------------------------------------------------- >> Objektfabrik Joachim Tuchelmailto:jtuchel@objektfabrik.de >> Fliederweg 1http://www.objektfabrik.de >> D-71640 Ludwigsburghttp://joachimtuchel.wordpress.com >> Telefon: +49 7141 56 10 86 0         Fax: +49 7141 56 10 86 1 >> > -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Objektfabrik Joachim Tuchel mailto:jtuchel@objektfabrik.de Fliederweg 1                         http://www.objektfabrik.de D-71640 Ludwigsburg http://joachimtuchel.wordpress.com Telefon: +49 7141 56 10 86 0         Fax: +49 7141 56 10 86 1