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Michael Baker
Fri, Dec 28, 2007 5:47 AM

Time-Nuts--

John De Armond said:

RE: Gimp.  I wouldn't foist that crap off on my
worst enemy.  Whomever conceived that user interface
had to be stoned.  Bad stoned.

Someone has written a revised menu structure for GIMP
that matches the user interface in Photoshop...

It is called "Gimpshop"  and is supposed to make it much
easier for PhotoShop users to transition to The Gimp
(and easier for Gimp users to follow PhotoShop tutorials).

http://www.gimpshop.com/

According to the description on the website:

GIMPshop is a modification of the free/open source GNU Image
Manipulation Program (GIMP), intended to replicate the
feel of Adobe Photoshop. Its primary purpose is to make
users of Photoshop feel comfortable using GIMP.

It shares all GIMP's advantages, including the long feature
list and customisability, while addressing some common
criticisms regarding the program's interface: GIMPshop
modifies the menu structure to closely match Photoshop's,
adjusts the program's terminology to match Adobe's, and,
in the Windows version, uses a plugin called 'Deweirdifier'
to combine the application's numerous windows in a similar
manner to the MDI system used by most Windows graphics
packages. While GIMPshop does not support Photoshop
plugins, all GIMP's own plugins, filters, brushes, etc.
remain available.

Due to the changes to the interface, many Photoshop
tutorials can be followed in GIMPshop unchanged, and
most others can be adapted for GIMPshop users with
minimal effort.

I have installed Gimpshop, but not had a chance to try
it out to see how well it compares to Photoshop CS3 which
is currently my most used image processor software.

Mike Baker

Time-Nuts-- John De Armond said: RE: Gimp. I wouldn't foist that crap off on my worst enemy. Whomever conceived that user interface had to be stoned. Bad stoned. --------------------------------------- Someone has written a revised menu structure for GIMP that matches the user interface in Photoshop... It is called "Gimpshop" and is supposed to make it much easier for PhotoShop users to transition to The Gimp (and easier for Gimp users to follow PhotoShop tutorials). http://www.gimpshop.com/ According to the description on the website: GIMPshop is a modification of the free/open source GNU Image Manipulation Program (GIMP), intended to replicate the feel of Adobe Photoshop. Its primary purpose is to make users of Photoshop feel comfortable using GIMP. It shares all GIMP's advantages, including the long feature list and customisability, while addressing some common criticisms regarding the program's interface: GIMPshop modifies the menu structure to closely match Photoshop's, adjusts the program's terminology to match Adobe's, and, in the Windows version, uses a plugin called 'Deweirdifier' to combine the application's numerous windows in a similar manner to the MDI system used by most Windows graphics packages. While GIMPshop does not support Photoshop plugins, all GIMP's own plugins, filters, brushes, etc. remain available. Due to the changes to the interface, many Photoshop tutorials can be followed in GIMPshop unchanged, and most others can be adapted for GIMPshop users with minimal effort. ----------------------------- I have installed Gimpshop, but not had a chance to try it out to see how well it compares to Photoshop CS3 which is currently my most used image processor software. Mike Baker --------------------------------
CH
Chuck Harris
Fri, Dec 28, 2007 1:48 PM

I happen to like the way Gimp is laid out, but I can
see how others might not... I am more of a function over
appearance sort of guy.  The Gimp is so much more powerful
than Adobe Photoshop that it compelled me to learn its way of
doing things.  It is a WordPerfect vs Word kind of difference
in my view.

Like most open source software, turning The Gimp into
a clone of Adobe Photoshop is simply a matter of changing
the "skin", a trivially easy thing to do... The whole gimp
user interface is just a little XML code.  Anyone care to
speculate on how easy it would be to make Adobe Photoshop
work and look like the Gimp?  Or to make Microsoft Word work
and look like WordPerfect?  Or for that matter, make Microsoft
Vista look and work like KDE or Gnome?

-Chuck Harris

Michael Baker wrote:

Time-Nuts--

John De Armond said:

RE: Gimp.  I wouldn't foist that crap off on my
worst enemy.  Whomever conceived that user interface
had to be stoned.  Bad stoned.

Someone has written a revised menu structure for GIMP
that matches the user interface in Photoshop...

It is called "Gimpshop"  and is supposed to make it much
easier for PhotoShop users to transition to The Gimp
(and easier for Gimp users to follow PhotoShop tutorials).

http://www.gimpshop.com/

I happen to like the way Gimp is laid out, but I can see how others might not... I am more of a function over appearance sort of guy. The Gimp is so much more powerful than Adobe Photoshop that it compelled me to learn its way of doing things. It is a WordPerfect vs Word kind of difference in my view. Like most open source software, turning The Gimp into a clone of Adobe Photoshop is simply a matter of changing the "skin", a trivially easy thing to do... The whole gimp user interface is just a little XML code. Anyone care to speculate on how easy it would be to make Adobe Photoshop work and look like the Gimp? Or to make Microsoft Word work and look like WordPerfect? Or for that matter, make Microsoft Vista look and work like KDE or Gnome? -Chuck Harris Michael Baker wrote: > Time-Nuts-- > > John De Armond said: > > RE: Gimp. I wouldn't foist that crap off on my > worst enemy. Whomever conceived that user interface > had to be stoned. Bad stoned. > --------------------------------------- > > Someone has written a revised menu structure for GIMP > that matches the user interface in Photoshop... > > It is called "Gimpshop" and is supposed to make it much > easier for PhotoShop users to transition to The Gimp > (and easier for Gimp users to follow PhotoShop tutorials). > > http://www.gimpshop.com/
MD
Magnus Danielson
Fri, Dec 28, 2007 2:01 PM

From: Chuck Harris cfharris@erols.com
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] GIMP VS PhotoShop
Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2007 08:48:29 -0500
Message-ID: 4774FEAD.6000506@erols.com

I happen to like the way Gimp is laid out, but I can
see how others might not... I am more of a function over
appearance sort of guy.  The Gimp is so much more powerful
than Adobe Photoshop that it compelled me to learn its way of
doing things.  It is a WordPerfect vs Word kind of difference
in my view.

Like most open source software, turning The Gimp into
a clone of Adobe Photoshop is simply a matter of changing
the "skin", a trivially easy thing to do... The whole gimp
user interface is just a little XML code.  Anyone care to
speculate on how easy it would be to make Adobe Photoshop
work and look like the Gimp?  Or to make Microsoft Word work
and look like WordPerfect?  Or for that matter, make Microsoft
Vista look and work like KDE or Gnome?

-Chuck Harris

Yes, yes, yes... but how will GIMP/Photoshop/VFSH improve my stability and
accuracy? Except for allowing me to fiddle with the graphs to display better
values than I actually acheive.

Cheers,
Magnus

From: Chuck Harris <cfharris@erols.com> Subject: Re: [time-nuts] GIMP VS PhotoShop Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2007 08:48:29 -0500 Message-ID: <4774FEAD.6000506@erols.com> > I happen to like the way Gimp is laid out, but I can > see how others might not... I am more of a function over > appearance sort of guy. The Gimp is so much more powerful > than Adobe Photoshop that it compelled me to learn its way of > doing things. It is a WordPerfect vs Word kind of difference > in my view. > > Like most open source software, turning The Gimp into > a clone of Adobe Photoshop is simply a matter of changing > the "skin", a trivially easy thing to do... The whole gimp > user interface is just a little XML code. Anyone care to > speculate on how easy it would be to make Adobe Photoshop > work and look like the Gimp? Or to make Microsoft Word work > and look like WordPerfect? Or for that matter, make Microsoft > Vista look and work like KDE or Gnome? > > -Chuck Harris Yes, yes, yes... but how will GIMP/Photoshop/VFSH improve my stability and accuracy? Except for allowing me to fiddle with the graphs to display better values than I actually acheive. Cheers, Magnus
JH
Jack Hudler
Fri, Dec 28, 2007 2:42 PM

Well it can get rid of that nasty nose hair on that favorite photo, or
replace that lazy eye with one from the other side :).

-----Original Message-----
From: time-nuts-bounces@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-bounces@febo.com] On
Behalf Of Magnus Danielson
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 8:01 AM
To: time-nuts@febo.com
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] GIMP VS PhotoShop

Yes, yes, yes... but how will GIMP/Photoshop/VFSH improve my stability and
accuracy? Except for allowing me to fiddle with the graphs to display better
values than I actually acheive.

Cheers,
Magnus

Well it can get rid of that nasty nose hair on that favorite photo, or replace that lazy eye with one from the other side :). -----Original Message----- From: time-nuts-bounces@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-bounces@febo.com] On Behalf Of Magnus Danielson Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 8:01 AM To: time-nuts@febo.com Subject: Re: [time-nuts] GIMP VS PhotoShop Yes, yes, yes... but how will GIMP/Photoshop/VFSH improve my stability and accuracy? Except for allowing me to fiddle with the graphs to display better values than I actually acheive. Cheers, Magnus
CH
Chuck Harris
Fri, Dec 28, 2007 3:35 PM

Magnus Danielson wrote:

Yes, yes, yes... but how will GIMP/Photoshop/VFSH improve my stability and
accuracy? Except for allowing me to fiddle with the graphs to display better
values than I actually acheive.

Oh, I think it can be more useful to precision time and frequency
measurement than just cheating.

How are you planning on documenting your experimental setups?  Any
photographs needed?  Yes?  Well, The Gimp will help you to properly
size them, add any measurement legends and titling, and to improve
poor photographic technique.

The Gimp is a great help in managing illustrations used in scholarly
papers.

Improving your stability and accuracy is all about standing on the
shoulders of others, and innovating from that high platform.

If you cannot present your results to others in a clear and understandable
format, then everybody loses.

-Chuck Harris

Magnus Danielson wrote: > Yes, yes, yes... but how will GIMP/Photoshop/VFSH improve my stability and > accuracy? Except for allowing me to fiddle with the graphs to display better > values than I actually acheive. Oh, I think it can be more useful to precision time and frequency measurement than just cheating. How are you planning on documenting your experimental setups? Any photographs needed? Yes? Well, The Gimp will help you to properly size them, add any measurement legends and titling, and to improve poor photographic technique. The Gimp is a great help in managing illustrations used in scholarly papers. Improving your stability and accuracy is all about standing on the shoulders of others, and innovating from that high platform. If you cannot present your results to others in a clear and understandable format, then everybody loses. -Chuck Harris
T
Todd
Fri, Dec 28, 2007 9:54 PM

Just to throw another wrench in the gears.. I've become fond of
paint.net http://www.getpaint.net/

Michael Baker wrote:

Time-Nuts--

John De Armond said:

RE: Gimp.  I wouldn't foist that crap off on my
worst enemy.  Whomever conceived that user interface
had to be stoned.  Bad stoned.

Someone has written a revised menu structure for GIMP
that matches the user interface in Photoshop...

It is called "Gimpshop"  and is supposed to make it much
easier for PhotoShop users to transition to The Gimp
(and easier for Gimp users to follow PhotoShop tutorials).

http://www.gimpshop.com/

According to the description on the website:

GIMPshop is a modification of the free/open source GNU Image
Manipulation Program (GIMP), intended to replicate the
feel of Adobe Photoshop. Its primary purpose is to make
users of Photoshop feel comfortable using GIMP.

It shares all GIMP's advantages, including the long feature
list and customisability, while addressing some common
criticisms regarding the program's interface: GIMPshop
modifies the menu structure to closely match Photoshop's,
adjusts the program's terminology to match Adobe's, and,
in the Windows version, uses a plugin called 'Deweirdifier'
to combine the application's numerous windows in a similar
manner to the MDI system used by most Windows graphics
packages. While GIMPshop does not support Photoshop
plugins, all GIMP's own plugins, filters, brushes, etc.
remain available.

Due to the changes to the interface, many Photoshop
tutorials can be followed in GIMPshop unchanged, and
most others can be adapted for GIMPshop users with
minimal effort.

I have installed Gimpshop, but not had a chance to try
it out to see how well it compares to Photoshop CS3 which
is currently my most used image processor software.

Mike Baker


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Just to throw another wrench in the gears.. I've become fond of paint.net http://www.getpaint.net/ Michael Baker wrote: > Time-Nuts-- > > John De Armond said: > > RE: Gimp. I wouldn't foist that crap off on my > worst enemy. Whomever conceived that user interface > had to be stoned. Bad stoned. > --------------------------------------- > > Someone has written a revised menu structure for GIMP > that matches the user interface in Photoshop... > > It is called "Gimpshop" and is supposed to make it much > easier for PhotoShop users to transition to The Gimp > (and easier for Gimp users to follow PhotoShop tutorials). > > http://www.gimpshop.com/ > > According to the description on the website: > > GIMPshop is a modification of the free/open source GNU Image > Manipulation Program (GIMP), intended to replicate the > feel of Adobe Photoshop. Its primary purpose is to make > users of Photoshop feel comfortable using GIMP. > > It shares all GIMP's advantages, including the long feature > list and customisability, while addressing some common > criticisms regarding the program's interface: GIMPshop > modifies the menu structure to closely match Photoshop's, > adjusts the program's terminology to match Adobe's, and, > in the Windows version, uses a plugin called 'Deweirdifier' > to combine the application's numerous windows in a similar > manner to the MDI system used by most Windows graphics > packages. While GIMPshop does not support Photoshop > plugins, all GIMP's own plugins, filters, brushes, etc. > remain available. > > Due to the changes to the interface, many Photoshop > tutorials can be followed in GIMPshop unchanged, and > most others can be adapted for GIMPshop users with > minimal effort. > ----------------------------- > > I have installed Gimpshop, but not had a chance to try > it out to see how well it compares to Photoshop CS3 which > is currently my most used image processor software. > > Mike Baker > -------------------------------- > > > > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there. > -- Todd http://www.vrillusions.com/ My PGP Key ID: 0xBC90230C