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Re: [PUP] Med Bound 2007 Noon Report - June 15

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Sonaia Maryon-Davis
Mon, Jun 18, 2007 10:54 AM

Milt, Judy and George,

We are glad to hear that you solved the stuffing box problem, it must
have been concerning when you discovered it was disconnected.  We
monitor the heat on all the key components in the engine room when
underway on regular inspections.  Last year we change the cutlas
bearing on Goleen and the stuffing box was the centre of our attention
afterwards.  We had the Manoel Island Yacht Yard go with us on a trial
for a couple of hours testing the temperature and also had over
heating but ours was caused by two much grease.  The two engineers
soon rectified this.  I agree that the regular drips are essential.
Our monitoring produced other dividends.  We found that running Goleen
at 8.2 knots reduced the temperatures significantly on the shaft and
the bearings and she also ran more comfortably.  The additional
benefit was a significant reduction in fuel consumption.  When we
crossed the Atlantic on the NAR the faster group that we were part of
ran at 9 knots on all legs and we had always used 9 knots as our
cruise speed since taking delivery of Goleen.  Not any more.

We carried every conceivable spare part on our crossing, at least we
thought that was the case.  We broke an elbow on our water maker just
before arrival in Bermuda, a so-called unbreakable part that you don't
generally carry.  And then our hot water tank ruptured on arrival
there.  Now getting that out and replaced from its tight spot was an
exercise.  The part that we had but did not have were the correct fan
belt for the main engine.  It turned out that we had the wrong one....

E and ESE are very unusual wind direction for this time of the year on
your route and hopefully the wind will swing to the prevailing
direction soon for you.

Horta awaits your arrival as does Gibraltar.  We had rain in Southern
Spain in June already, it never rains on the Costa del Sol in June.
So much for never.

Bon Voyage.  May nothing else fail, may the seas be calm and may the
wind be little and behind!

Chris & Sonaia

On 6/15/07, Georgs Kolesnikovs waterworld@rogers.com wrote:

Noon Report June 15, 2007

Position 32-20.55 N 59-09.90 W as of 12:00 EDT Friday, June 15, 2007
Course 095 deg M
Speed 6.1 kts @ 1700 RPM
1,516 NM to go to Horta, Faial, Azores
Distance made good past 24 hours: 134 (5.6 kts)
Total fuel consumed 155 gals, average 3.0 GPH, fuel remaining 1325 gal
Conditions: Wind 090 deg M @ 8 kts., swells 2-3 ft confused mostly
from N, mostly overcast, visibility excellent.
Barometer 1017.0 mb and steady.
Sea water temp 74 deg F, air temp 78 deg F.
ETA Horta: June 26-27, 2007

The 11 people and two dogs on the Horta leg of Med Bound 2007 are
settling in as Bluewater, Moana Kuewa and Salty Dog continue on their
passage east, maintaining an inverted-V formation.  Katy and Dani,
Med Bound's two canine crewmembers, seem to have come to grips with
the fact that there are no patches of grass on the horizon and are
gaining their sea legs .  For Katy's fans, I am pleased to report
that Katy played with her toys for hours yesterday afternoon,
bringing each one in turn to us.  The squeaky red ball was the
favorite of the day.

At mid-day yesterday the wind began backing, and by late afternoon
was ESE at 15 knots--the dread HEADWINDS, a real surprise since
weather router Bob Jones had told us to expect strong SW-SSW winds.
It was rainy and windy through the afternoon with the wind ahead of
the beam, but the rain cleared and by just after dark we could see
Moana Kuewa's running lights off on our starboard quarter, and Salty
Dog's green off the port quarter through the night.  Winds overnight
were E 15 to 20, and the 4-6 foot seas gave George a bumpy, noisy
ride in the forward stateroom.  By daybreak winds were down to 5-10
knots, backing to due E, and the confused seas were way down, giving
us a comfortable ride.

With the E winds came current on the nose, and the Med Bound fleet's
forward progress has slowed.  We continue at the same 1700 RPM pace
that netted us 6.3 knots 24 hours ago; now we're lucky to see 5.3
knots.  It's looking like a SLOW trip to Horta!  But headwinds
notwithstanding, it's very comfortable onboard and we're a happy ship.

Yesterday afternoon George came up from the engine room reporting
that the stuffing box was too hot.  He and I returned to the ER and
heat-gunned the unit; the heat gun read 150 deg. F, far too hot.  (I
had checked it less than two hours before and it was at its usual 90
degrees.)  For those not familiar with this critical piece of
equipment, the stuffing box is a cylinder-shaped bronze fitting
around the propeller shaft.  It permits the propeller shaft to exit
the boat without admitting lots of water through the same hole in the
hull.  It works by pressing lubricated flax packing ("stuffing")
against the shaft to keep the all but a drop of water every few
seconds from entering the hull as the propeller shaft turns.  The
periodic drop of water is vital because it lubricates the packing and
keeps it cool.

In our case, the water inflow had ceased altogether, and the friction
from the propeller shaft turning at a bit over 400 RPMs caused heat
the build up, a situation we had to remedy quickly.  Step one was to
slow down the engine (reduce friction) and cool down the stuffing
box; we used ice and water in a zip-lock bag.  Step two was to try to
restore water flow to the box. The fix was simple: loosening the
"follower" in the box and putting the boat in reverse a couple of
times to loosen up the packing-doing that we managed to get water
flowing again.  In the process, we discovered that the stuffing box
itself was not properly secured to the boat, and it did about a
half-revolution while we were working it it- frightening since doing
its job of keeping the water on the outside depends on it being
securely fastened to the boat.  We took care of that quickly.

This is when having a satellite phone can make your day.  I reached
James Knight, who knows Nordhavns like a Don Juan knows women and
this boat in particular like a husband knows his wife.  James
confirmed that the hasty actions we'd taken were right on the money.
He believes some old stuffing, perhaps hardened from use or friction
or heat, had disintegrated into tiny pieces, blocking the inflow of
water.  Loosening the stuffing box's follower and using reverse to
loosen the packing was just the right approach, he said.  Getting the
doctor's diagnosis and approval after rendering the treatment and
dispensing the medication may not be the proper order, but it's nice
to have confirmation nonetheless.

James, by the way, was in our favorite summer hangout, Southwest
Harbor, ME, working aboard Sun Dog, a Nordhavn 62 owned by our friend
Robert Greenbaum.  Robert crossed the Atlantic aboard his Nordhavn 50
on the Nordhavn Atlantic Rally in 2004, so three years ago at about
this time Robert was right about where we are today.  He was also at
Coral Ridge Yacht Club to see us off when Med Bound departed.  Small
world!

We've monitored the stuffing box carefully ever since.  Yacht
maintenance lore holds that the stuffing box should be "cool enough
to keep your hand on," and ours is back to running about 90 degrees,
just under 20 degrees above the outside water temperature.

As much as visiting exotic ports like Bermuda and Horta, it's this
kind of stuff that makes crossing an ocean in a small boat a
challenge and a true adventure.  An owner takes great pains to make
certain that everything is ready to go on an ocean crossing, yet all
it takes is failure of one vital piece of equipment like a stuffing
box to ruin a passage or even end a trip.  With another 1,500 miles
to Horta ahead of us, those are not the kind of problems we need.
And we're confident that we have the knowledge, tools and spares to
deal with most of the problems we'll face.  If we were not willing to
take the acceptable risks that go hand-in-hand with crossing an ocean
in a small yacht, we'd be a lot happier staying home and reading
about it!

I should mention that Judy and I consider ourselves blessed to have
George Howerton as crew on this trip.  Our modus operandi is having
the boat to ourselves when cruising in coastal waters, but the
reality is that things go much smoother with three people aboard on
passages more than a few days long.  To put it simply, George is a
superb crewmember-bright, funny, enthusiastic, and extremely
reliable.  It was George who discovered the stuffing box problem.
And when he and I were working in the hot, noisy engine room to
stabilize the situation, it was George who tactfully reminded me that
putting the engine in reverse-the very tactic we had used on our wing
engine stuffing box in Fort Lauderdale-would likely make the
situation better.  Not only does George have a better mechanical
sense than I, but his quirky sense of humor and upbeat approach to
life make him a real pleasure to be around.  And, Judy points out,
confirmed bachelor George will eat anything-and be grateful to have
it.  Crew is easy to find; good crew is not, and we're fortunate to
have very good crew in George!

As our slow boat to Horta continues her passage east, more and more
we find our thoughts drawn to what goes on around us-aboard Bluewater
and the other two boats in company with us.  We also continue to
receive reports from other Med Bound yachts, like the one from Braun
on the N62 Grey Pearl that read:

"The Pearl has just exited the Gulf Stream, by necessity crossing at a point
where it had bulged to 90 miles wide. Rough passage - wind NNE 23-34knts.,
seas NNE 11-17, speed 5-6.5 knts.  Mechanical: Alternator belts
exploded on main engine, rubber bullets flying everywhere, watched
from inspection window until the show was over then replaced belts
while underway with wing engine power and wing backup stabilizer pump
system engaged."  You can see that Bluewater is just one more boat
out here doing it!

--Milt, Judy, George and Schipperke Katy


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Milt, Judy and George, We are glad to hear that you solved the stuffing box problem, it must have been concerning when you discovered it was disconnected. We monitor the heat on all the key components in the engine room when underway on regular inspections. Last year we change the cutlas bearing on Goleen and the stuffing box was the centre of our attention afterwards. We had the Manoel Island Yacht Yard go with us on a trial for a couple of hours testing the temperature and also had over heating but ours was caused by two much grease. The two engineers soon rectified this. I agree that the regular drips are essential. Our monitoring produced other dividends. We found that running Goleen at 8.2 knots reduced the temperatures significantly on the shaft and the bearings and she also ran more comfortably. The additional benefit was a significant reduction in fuel consumption. When we crossed the Atlantic on the NAR the faster group that we were part of ran at 9 knots on all legs and we had always used 9 knots as our cruise speed since taking delivery of Goleen. Not any more. We carried every conceivable spare part on our crossing, at least we thought that was the case. We broke an elbow on our water maker just before arrival in Bermuda, a so-called unbreakable part that you don't generally carry. And then our hot water tank ruptured on arrival there. Now getting that out and replaced from its tight spot was an exercise. The part that we had but did not have were the correct fan belt for the main engine. It turned out that we had the wrong one.... E and ESE are very unusual wind direction for this time of the year on your route and hopefully the wind will swing to the prevailing direction soon for you. Horta awaits your arrival as does Gibraltar. We had rain in Southern Spain in June already, it never rains on the Costa del Sol in June. So much for never. Bon Voyage. May nothing else fail, may the seas be calm and may the wind be little and behind! Chris & Sonaia On 6/15/07, Georgs Kolesnikovs <waterworld@rogers.com> wrote: > Noon Report June 15, 2007 > > Position 32-20.55 N 59-09.90 W as of 12:00 EDT Friday, June 15, 2007 > Course 095 deg M > Speed 6.1 kts @ 1700 RPM > 1,516 NM to go to Horta, Faial, Azores > Distance made good past 24 hours: 134 (5.6 kts) > Total fuel consumed 155 gals, average 3.0 GPH, fuel remaining 1325 gal > Conditions: Wind 090 deg M @ 8 kts., swells 2-3 ft confused mostly > from N, mostly overcast, visibility excellent. > Barometer 1017.0 mb and steady. > Sea water temp 74 deg F, air temp 78 deg F. > ETA Horta: June 26-27, 2007 > > > The 11 people and two dogs on the Horta leg of Med Bound 2007 are > settling in as Bluewater, Moana Kuewa and Salty Dog continue on their > passage east, maintaining an inverted-V formation. Katy and Dani, > Med Bound's two canine crewmembers, seem to have come to grips with > the fact that there are no patches of grass on the horizon and are > gaining their sea legs . For Katy's fans, I am pleased to report > that Katy played with her toys for hours yesterday afternoon, > bringing each one in turn to us. The squeaky red ball was the > favorite of the day. > > At mid-day yesterday the wind began backing, and by late afternoon > was ESE at 15 knots--the dread HEADWINDS, a real surprise since > weather router Bob Jones had told us to expect strong SW-SSW winds. > It was rainy and windy through the afternoon with the wind ahead of > the beam, but the rain cleared and by just after dark we could see > Moana Kuewa's running lights off on our starboard quarter, and Salty > Dog's green off the port quarter through the night. Winds overnight > were E 15 to 20, and the 4-6 foot seas gave George a bumpy, noisy > ride in the forward stateroom. By daybreak winds were down to 5-10 > knots, backing to due E, and the confused seas were way down, giving > us a comfortable ride. > > With the E winds came current on the nose, and the Med Bound fleet's > forward progress has slowed. We continue at the same 1700 RPM pace > that netted us 6.3 knots 24 hours ago; now we're lucky to see 5.3 > knots. It's looking like a SLOW trip to Horta! But headwinds > notwithstanding, it's very comfortable onboard and we're a happy ship. > > Yesterday afternoon George came up from the engine room reporting > that the stuffing box was too hot. He and I returned to the ER and > heat-gunned the unit; the heat gun read 150 deg. F, far too hot. (I > had checked it less than two hours before and it was at its usual 90 > degrees.) For those not familiar with this critical piece of > equipment, the stuffing box is a cylinder-shaped bronze fitting > around the propeller shaft. It permits the propeller shaft to exit > the boat without admitting lots of water through the same hole in the > hull. It works by pressing lubricated flax packing ("stuffing") > against the shaft to keep the all but a drop of water every few > seconds from entering the hull as the propeller shaft turns. The > periodic drop of water is vital because it lubricates the packing and > keeps it cool. > > In our case, the water inflow had ceased altogether, and the friction > from the propeller shaft turning at a bit over 400 RPMs caused heat > the build up, a situation we had to remedy quickly. Step one was to > slow down the engine (reduce friction) and cool down the stuffing > box; we used ice and water in a zip-lock bag. Step two was to try to > restore water flow to the box. The fix was simple: loosening the > "follower" in the box and putting the boat in reverse a couple of > times to loosen up the packing-doing that we managed to get water > flowing again. In the process, we discovered that the stuffing box > itself was not properly secured to the boat, and it did about a > half-revolution while we were working it it- frightening since doing > its job of keeping the water on the outside depends on it being > securely fastened to the boat. We took care of that quickly. > > This is when having a satellite phone can make your day. I reached > James Knight, who knows Nordhavns like a Don Juan knows women and > this boat in particular like a husband knows his wife. James > confirmed that the hasty actions we'd taken were right on the money. > He believes some old stuffing, perhaps hardened from use or friction > or heat, had disintegrated into tiny pieces, blocking the inflow of > water. Loosening the stuffing box's follower and using reverse to > loosen the packing was just the right approach, he said. Getting the > doctor's diagnosis and approval after rendering the treatment and > dispensing the medication may not be the proper order, but it's nice > to have confirmation nonetheless. > > James, by the way, was in our favorite summer hangout, Southwest > Harbor, ME, working aboard Sun Dog, a Nordhavn 62 owned by our friend > Robert Greenbaum. Robert crossed the Atlantic aboard his Nordhavn 50 > on the Nordhavn Atlantic Rally in 2004, so three years ago at about > this time Robert was right about where we are today. He was also at > Coral Ridge Yacht Club to see us off when Med Bound departed. Small > world! > > We've monitored the stuffing box carefully ever since. Yacht > maintenance lore holds that the stuffing box should be "cool enough > to keep your hand on," and ours is back to running about 90 degrees, > just under 20 degrees above the outside water temperature. > > As much as visiting exotic ports like Bermuda and Horta, it's this > kind of stuff that makes crossing an ocean in a small boat a > challenge and a true adventure. An owner takes great pains to make > certain that everything is ready to go on an ocean crossing, yet all > it takes is failure of one vital piece of equipment like a stuffing > box to ruin a passage or even end a trip. With another 1,500 miles > to Horta ahead of us, those are not the kind of problems we need. > And we're confident that we have the knowledge, tools and spares to > deal with most of the problems we'll face. If we were not willing to > take the acceptable risks that go hand-in-hand with crossing an ocean > in a small yacht, we'd be a lot happier staying home and reading > about it! > > I should mention that Judy and I consider ourselves blessed to have > George Howerton as crew on this trip. Our modus operandi is having > the boat to ourselves when cruising in coastal waters, but the > reality is that things go much smoother with three people aboard on > passages more than a few days long. To put it simply, George is a > superb crewmember-bright, funny, enthusiastic, and extremely > reliable. It was George who discovered the stuffing box problem. > And when he and I were working in the hot, noisy engine room to > stabilize the situation, it was George who tactfully reminded me that > putting the engine in reverse-the very tactic we had used on our wing > engine stuffing box in Fort Lauderdale-would likely make the > situation better. Not only does George have a better mechanical > sense than I, but his quirky sense of humor and upbeat approach to > life make him a real pleasure to be around. And, Judy points out, > confirmed bachelor George will eat anything-and be grateful to have > it. Crew is easy to find; good crew is not, and we're fortunate to > have very good crew in George! > > As our slow boat to Horta continues her passage east, more and more > we find our thoughts drawn to what goes on around us-aboard Bluewater > and the other two boats in company with us. We also continue to > receive reports from other Med Bound yachts, like the one from Braun > on the N62 Grey Pearl that read: > > "The Pearl has just exited the Gulf Stream, by necessity crossing at a point > where it had bulged to 90 miles wide. Rough passage - wind NNE 23-34knts., > seas NNE 11-17, speed 5-6.5 knts. Mechanical: Alternator belts > exploded on main engine, rubber bullets flying everywhere, watched > from inspection window until the show was over then replaced belts > while underway with wing engine power and wing backup stabilizer pump > system engaged." You can see that Bluewater is just one more boat > out here doing it! > > --Milt, Judy, George and Schipperke Katy > _______________________________________________ > http://lists.samurai.com/mailman/listinfo/passagemaking-under-power > > To unsubscribe send email to > passagemaking-under-power-request@lists.samurai.com with the word > UNSUBSCRIBE and nothing else in the subject or body of the message. > > Passagemaking Under Power and PUP are trademarks of Water World Productions, formerly known as Trawler World Productions.