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MC
Mike Cowan
Sat, Oct 23, 2004 9:23 AM

Hi All,

I have a custom slip for liveaboard and 14 1 1/4" braided dock lines custom
fit to size.  28 splices, my hands hurt for days!  The lines are showing
green mold on the undersides and where the line attachs to the cleat.  What
would be the best way to clean the mold off these white lines, and is there
a way to prevent re-occurence?  I am concerned that the lifespann of the
lines might be compromised by the mold, or by any cleaning attempt I might try.

Thanks!

Mike

Mike Cowan
MV Sue's Pool III
65 Hatteras LRC hull #2
Off-List email: mikec@wirelessconnections.net

Hi All, I have a custom slip for liveaboard and 14 1 1/4" braided dock lines custom fit to size. 28 splices, my hands hurt for days! The lines are showing green mold on the undersides and where the line attachs to the cleat. What would be the best way to clean the mold off these white lines, and is there a way to prevent re-occurence? I am concerned that the lifespann of the lines might be compromised by the mold, or by any cleaning attempt I might try. Thanks! Mike Mike Cowan MV Sue's Pool III 65 Hatteras LRC hull #2 Off-List email: mikec@wirelessconnections.net
TM
Todd Mains
Sat, Oct 23, 2004 4:47 PM

I took my moldy lines to the Laundromat and threw them in the commercial
size washer.  I brought them back wet and hung them to dry.  Worked for me.

Captain Todd Mains
Portland, OR

I took my moldy lines to the Laundromat and threw them in the commercial size washer. I brought them back wet and hung them to dry. Worked for me. Captain Todd Mains Portland, OR
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David
Sat, Oct 23, 2004 4:53 PM

Mike,
I have not done this myself but I have friends who wash the lines in
detergent in a washing machine then air dries them. With big lines one might
want to try this on the Marinas washer.
Skooch Hatteras LRC 42
David Stahl

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Subject: T&T: Moldy Lines

Hi All,

I have a custom slip for liveaboard and 14 1 1/4" braided dock lines custom
fit to size.  28 splices, my hands hurt for days!  The lines are showing
green mold on the undersides and where the line attachs to the cleat.  What
would be the best way to clean the mold off these white lines, and is there
a way to prevent re-occurence?  I am concerned that the lifespann of the
lines might be compromised by the mold, or by any cleaning attempt I might
try.

Thanks!

Mike

Mike Cowan
MV Sue's Pool III
65 Hatteras LRC hull #2
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Mike, I have not done this myself but I have friends who wash the lines in detergent in a washing machine then air dries them. With big lines one might want to try this on the Marinas washer. Skooch Hatteras LRC 42 David Stahl -----Original Message----- From: trawlers-and-trawlering-bounces@lists.samurai.com [mailto:trawlers-and-trawlering-bounces@lists.samurai.com]On Behalf Of Mike Cowan Sent: Saturday, October 23, 2004 4:23 AM To: trawlers-and-trawlering@lists.samurai.com Subject: T&T: Moldy Lines Hi All, I have a custom slip for liveaboard and 14 1 1/4" braided dock lines custom fit to size. 28 splices, my hands hurt for days! The lines are showing green mold on the undersides and where the line attachs to the cleat. What would be the best way to clean the mold off these white lines, and is there a way to prevent re-occurence? I am concerned that the lifespann of the lines might be compromised by the mold, or by any cleaning attempt I might try. Thanks! Mike Mike Cowan MV Sue's Pool III 65 Hatteras LRC hull #2 Off-List email: mikec@wirelessconnections.net _______________________________________________ http://lists.samurai.com/mailman/listinfo/trawlers-and-trawlering To Unsubscribe send email to trawlers-and-trawlering-request@lists.samurai.com Include the word Unsubscribe (and nothing else) in the subject or body of the message.
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Keith
Sat, Oct 23, 2004 6:13 PM

Don't use bleach. I wash mine in a washing machine on gentle cycle with warm
water and detergent; add a little oxyclean if the regular detergent doesn't
do the job. Put some fabric softener in the dispenser as well... they'll
come out clean and soft.

Keith
__
You start with a bag full of luck and an empty bag of experience. The trick
is to fill the bag of experience before you empty the bag of luck.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Cowan" trawler-world@wirelessconnections.net
What

would be the best way to clean the mold off these white lines, and is
there a way to prevent re-occurence?

Don't use bleach. I wash mine in a washing machine on gentle cycle with warm water and detergent; add a little oxyclean if the regular detergent doesn't do the job. Put some fabric softener in the dispenser as well... they'll come out clean and soft. Keith __ You start with a bag full of luck and an empty bag of experience. The trick is to fill the bag of experience before you empty the bag of luck. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Cowan" <trawler-world@wirelessconnections.net> What > would be the best way to clean the mold off these white lines, and is > there a way to prevent re-occurence?
MC
Mike Cowan
Sat, Oct 23, 2004 8:35 PM

The washing machine sounds like a great idea, until I remembered that my
lines are fixed to the poles.  Only way to get them off is to be 18' above
waterline, and my superman suit is in the laundry.  Any thoughts on doing
the cleaning in place?

Mike

At 02:13 PM 10/23/2004, Keith wrote:

Don't use bleach. I wash mine in a washing machine on gentle cycle with
warm water and detergent; add a little oxyclean if the regular detergent
doesn't do the job. Put some fabric softener in the dispenser as well...
they'll come out clean and soft.

Keith
__
You start with a bag full of luck and an empty bag of experience. The
trick is to fill the bag of experience before you empty the bag of luck.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Cowan"
trawler-world@wirelessconnections.net
What

would be the best way to clean the mold off these white lines, and is
there a way to prevent re-occurence?


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The washing machine sounds like a great idea, until I remembered that my lines are fixed to the poles. Only way to get them off is to be 18' above waterline, and my superman suit is in the laundry. Any thoughts on doing the cleaning in place? Mike At 02:13 PM 10/23/2004, Keith wrote: >Don't use bleach. I wash mine in a washing machine on gentle cycle with >warm water and detergent; add a little oxyclean if the regular detergent >doesn't do the job. Put some fabric softener in the dispenser as well... >they'll come out clean and soft. > > >Keith >__ >You start with a bag full of luck and an empty bag of experience. The >trick is to fill the bag of experience before you empty the bag of luck. >----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Cowan" ><trawler-world@wirelessconnections.net> > What >>would be the best way to clean the mold off these white lines, and is >>there a way to prevent re-occurence? >_______________________________________________ >http://lists.samurai.com/mailman/listinfo/trawlers-and-trawlering > >To Unsubscribe send email to trawlers-and-trawlering-request@lists.samurai.com >Include the word Unsubscribe (and nothing else) in the subject or body of >the message. > Mike Cowan MV Sue's Pool III 65 Hatteras LRC hull #2 Off-List email: mikec@wirelessconnections.net
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Robert Bryett
Sat, Oct 23, 2004 9:56 PM

What would be the best way to clean the mold off these white lines, and

is there a way to prevent re-occurrence? <<<<

In Sydney we get a problem with mould and algae growing on well...
everything, because of the humid climate. Ropes and lines (especially
braided line) are no exception. You can take the lines off the boat and
launder them in a washing machine (use a coin-operated launderette rather
than your own machine). If it's not convenient to do that, clean them in
situ with Uncle Bob's all-purpose mould and algae cure: Liquid swimming pool
chlorine.

It's normally sold as a solution of 125g/litre Sodium Hypochlorite, which I
dilute 5:1 with water and add a squirt of washing-up liquid as a wetting
agent. Spray it on, leave it for say half an hour and then rinse it off. It
works on Treadmaster, brick, concrete, wood, painted surfaces, plastic and
even fabric. It cleans off the mould, and seems to discourage regrowth for
up to a year.

Obviously the chlorine solution is a fairly strong oxidising/bleaching
agent, so exercise caution when handling it. Wear eye protection while
mixing and spraying it, and avoid breathing in any fumes from the
concentrated solution. When using it on delicate surfaces like coloured
fabric, try it on a small inconspicuous area first and only leave it on for
a minute or so before rinsing it off. By contrast, on unpainted brickwork,
concrete, tiling etc. you can just spray it on and leave it to soak in
without rinsing.

Best regards, Robert Bryett,
Sydney, Australia.
mailto:rbryett@mail.com

>>>> What would be the best way to clean the mold off these white lines, and is there a way to prevent re-occurrence? <<<< In Sydney we get a problem with mould and algae growing on well... everything, because of the humid climate. Ropes and lines (especially braided line) are no exception. You can take the lines off the boat and launder them in a washing machine (use a coin-operated launderette rather than your own machine). If it's not convenient to do that, clean them in situ with Uncle Bob's all-purpose mould and algae cure: Liquid swimming pool chlorine. It's normally sold as a solution of 125g/litre Sodium Hypochlorite, which I dilute 5:1 with water and add a squirt of washing-up liquid as a wetting agent. Spray it on, leave it for say half an hour and then rinse it off. It works on Treadmaster, brick, concrete, wood, painted surfaces, plastic and even fabric. It cleans off the mould, and seems to discourage regrowth for up to a year. Obviously the chlorine solution is a fairly strong oxidising/bleaching agent, so exercise caution when handling it. Wear eye protection while mixing and spraying it, and avoid breathing in any fumes from the concentrated solution. When using it on delicate surfaces like coloured fabric, try it on a small inconspicuous area first and only leave it on for a minute or so before rinsing it off. By contrast, on unpainted brickwork, concrete, tiling etc. you can just spray it on and leave it to soak in without rinsing. Best regards, Robert Bryett, Sydney, Australia. mailto:rbryett@mail.com
RR
Ryan R. Healy
Sat, Oct 23, 2004 10:42 PM

I second the use of liquid swimming pool chlorine.  What I do is douse the
lines several times in 100% chlorine (wear rubber gloves) which will kill
the mold spores immediately and prevent regrowth of mold and algae.  From
there, put the lines in a clothes washer, HOT water setting and wash with
some Tide and a generous amount of Downy fabric softener in the rinse.  Let
the lines air dry.  They will be like brand new, soft, snowy white and will
not be the least bit brittle.

I've kept docklines for years with an occasional cleaning.

Regards,

Ryan Healy
Dundee, IL
m/v "4 Play"

I second the use of liquid swimming pool chlorine. What I do is douse the lines several times in 100% chlorine (wear rubber gloves) which will kill the mold spores immediately and prevent regrowth of mold and algae. From there, put the lines in a clothes washer, HOT water setting and wash with some Tide and a generous amount of Downy fabric softener in the rinse. Let the lines air dry. They will be like brand new, soft, snowy white and will not be the least bit brittle. I've kept docklines for years with an occasional cleaning. Regards, Ryan Healy Dundee, IL m/v "4 Play"
MC
Mike Cowan
Sat, Oct 23, 2004 11:08 PM

Would Chlorine Bleach like used in the washing machine be acceptable and
maybe less toxic?

Mike

At 06:42 PM 10/23/2004, Ryan R. Healy wrote:

I second the use of liquid swimming pool chlorine.  What I do is douse the
lines several times in 100% chlorine (wear rubber gloves) which will kill
the mold spores immediately and prevent regrowth of mold and algae.  From
there, put the lines in a clothes washer, HOT water setting and wash with
some Tide and a generous amount of Downy fabric softener in the rinse.  Let
the lines air dry.  They will be like brand new, soft, snowy white and will
not be the least bit brittle.

I've kept docklines for years with an occasional cleaning.

Regards,

Ryan Healy
Dundee, IL
m/v "4 Play"


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Would Chlorine Bleach like used in the washing machine be acceptable and maybe less toxic? Mike At 06:42 PM 10/23/2004, Ryan R. Healy wrote: >I second the use of liquid swimming pool chlorine. What I do is douse the >lines several times in 100% chlorine (wear rubber gloves) which will kill >the mold spores immediately and prevent regrowth of mold and algae. From >there, put the lines in a clothes washer, HOT water setting and wash with >some Tide and a generous amount of Downy fabric softener in the rinse. Let >the lines air dry. They will be like brand new, soft, snowy white and will >not be the least bit brittle. > >I've kept docklines for years with an occasional cleaning. > >Regards, > >Ryan Healy >Dundee, IL >m/v "4 Play" >_______________________________________________ >http://lists.samurai.com/mailman/listinfo/trawlers-and-trawlering > >To Unsubscribe send email to trawlers-and-trawlering-request@lists.samurai.com >Include the word Unsubscribe (and nothing else) in the subject or body of >the message. Mike Cowan MV Sue's Pool III 65 Hatteras LRC hull #2 Off-List email: mikec@wirelessconnections.net
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John Ford
Sun, Oct 24, 2004 12:23 AM

I would assume that our boat lines are similar to Climbers static
lines.  When I used to climb, we all used woolite and gentle cycle to
clean the lines.  Then you would hang the lines to get them dry.
Worked great to get the dirt out, but I don't know about mold.  We were
told never to use anything harsher then woolite.

Feisty Lady
2004 American Tug 34
Annapolis City Marina
Spa Creek
Annapolis(of course), Maryland

I would assume that our boat lines are similar to Climbers static lines. When I used to climb, we all used woolite and gentle cycle to clean the lines. Then you would hang the lines to get them dry. Worked great to get the dirt out, but I don't know about mold. We were told never to use anything harsher then woolite. Feisty Lady 2004 American Tug 34 Annapolis City Marina Spa Creek Annapolis(of course), Maryland
RB
Robert Bryett
Sun, Oct 24, 2004 1:34 AM

Would Chlorine Bleach like used in the washing machine be acceptable

and maybe less toxic? <<<<

Quite possibly, but it would probably be available in smaller quantities,
and more expensive.

The hardware shops here sell various brand-name mould removers. If one reads
the list of ingredients, the active component is invariably Sodium
Hypochlorite. A typical example costs around A$40 for five litres. Five
litres of liquid pool chlorine costs around A$10 at the same shop, and the
solution is 2.5 times stronger, so the branded product is four times the
price for less than half as much active ingredient. Presumably it's diluted
with Perrier water...

As for toxicity, I suspect that a chlorine molecule does the same damage
regardless of how it's packaged, so the concentration is the key. Pool
chlorine is really only a bit nasty in concentrated form.

Disclaimer:
I am not a chemist, so my remarks about toxicity should be taken with a
pinch of Sodium Chloride.

Best regards, Robert Bryett,
Sydney, Australia.
mailto:rbryett@mail.com

>>>> Would Chlorine Bleach like used in the washing machine be acceptable and maybe less toxic? <<<< Quite possibly, but it would probably be available in smaller quantities, and more expensive. The hardware shops here sell various brand-name mould removers. If one reads the list of ingredients, the active component is invariably Sodium Hypochlorite. A typical example costs around A$40 for five litres. Five litres of liquid pool chlorine costs around A$10 at the same shop, and the solution is 2.5 times stronger, so the branded product is four times the price for less than half as much active ingredient. Presumably it's diluted with Perrier water... As for toxicity, I suspect that a chlorine molecule does the same damage regardless of how it's packaged, so the concentration is the key. Pool chlorine is really only a bit nasty in concentrated form. Disclaimer: I am not a chemist, so my remarks about toxicity should be taken with a pinch of Sodium Chloride. Best regards, Robert Bryett, Sydney, Australia. mailto:rbryett@mail.com