Paige, I think you have hit the crust of the matter! I don't necessary want any of the hairy stuff in my med kit, but I do want something to prevent shock and pain, and have no problem "controlling it" and ensuring its use for intended purpose. Better safe than sorry, I believe. I have seen too many people lost because of both, where there was actually little unrecoverable damage. I am sure you are familiar with traumatic injuries and their results; so am I and in just as intensive situations where we had to depend on ourselves to survive. A solid list of "legal" or OTC drugs would be highly helpful. (I am sure all the druggies already know how to get the illegal stuff and what constitutes what!) Actually a good medical quide for treating such injuries would not be a bad idea! Rich *From: "Paige Reeves" <**paige.reeves99@yahoo.co.uk*<paige.reeves99@yahoo.co.uk> *> **Subject: Re: *[PUP] medical kit ** *An effective painkiller for moderate to severe pain is Tramadol Hydrochloride, which is not a controlled drug in most parts of the world.. Available both as a tablet and an injection, it is very effective. **http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tramadol*<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tramadol> ** *I am a retired Registered Nurse and this post is for information purposes only. I do not advocate the use of any medication without first consulting a Doctor.* *Paige*