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Re: [time-nuts] Brooks Shera

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Daniel Schultz
Mon, Mar 25, 2013 4:43 AM

Another great ham passes on, I'm sorry I never had a chance to meet him.

Is the GPS controller that Brooks published still useful today, or has it been
superseded by something newer? I have a Motorola GPS receiver (PVT-6) with 1
pps output, and an HP oscillator (model number escapes me at the moment). I
also have one of the $30 ebay rubidium modules (FE-5680A) that were discussed
here in previous years. I only need a controller to tie them all together.

Should I build Brooks' circuit to work with my old Motorola PVT-6 or should I
look for something else (perhaps one of the Jupiter receivers with 10 kHz
output)? The D/A chip in his design seems to be obsolete, his archived web
site says to contact him for the chip but we can't do that anymore. Are they
still available?

Dan Schultz N8FGV

Another great ham passes on, I'm sorry I never had a chance to meet him. Is the GPS controller that Brooks published still useful today, or has it been superseded by something newer? I have a Motorola GPS receiver (PVT-6) with 1 pps output, and an HP oscillator (model number escapes me at the moment). I also have one of the $30 ebay rubidium modules (FE-5680A) that were discussed here in previous years. I only need a controller to tie them all together. Should I build Brooks' circuit to work with my old Motorola PVT-6 or should I look for something else (perhaps one of the Jupiter receivers with 10 kHz output)? The D/A chip in his design seems to be obsolete, his archived web site says to contact him for the chip but we can't do that anymore. Are they still available? Dan Schultz N8FGV
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Attila Kinali
Mon, Mar 25, 2013 6:30 AM

On Mon, 25 Mar 2013 00:43:02 -0400
"Daniel Schultz" n8fgv@usa.net wrote:

Another great ham passes on, I'm sorry I never had a chance to meet him.

Definitly a sad day....

Is the GPS controller that Brooks published still useful today, or has it been
superseded by something newer?

That highly depends on what you want and what you need.

Shera's design is definitly one of the simplest GPSDOs out there.
And with that it defines what the lowest complexity to get something
accurate is. If the performance of this circuit is enough for you,
i wouldn't go for anything else. Of course, if you need better performance
or want to tinker and see what can be done with home made equipment, then
you should go for different circuits.

		Attila Kinali

--
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who also happen to be insane and gross.
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On Mon, 25 Mar 2013 00:43:02 -0400 "Daniel Schultz" <n8fgv@usa.net> wrote: > Another great ham passes on, I'm sorry I never had a chance to meet him. Definitly a sad day.... > Is the GPS controller that Brooks published still useful today, or has it been > superseded by something newer? That highly depends on what you want and what you need. Shera's design is definitly one of the simplest GPSDOs out there. And with that it defines what the lowest complexity to get something accurate is. If the performance of this circuit is enough for you, i wouldn't go for anything else. Of course, if you need better performance or want to tinker and see what can be done with home made equipment, then you should go for different circuits. Attila Kinali -- The people on 4chan are like brilliant psychologists who also happen to be insane and gross. -- unknown
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Chris Albertson
Mon, Mar 25, 2013 7:34 AM

I think Brooks' design is worth studying.  It is simple enough and
uses 20 year old technology so even use old folks can follow how it
works.  Then you go off and build something else using current parts

I have one of those cheaper Rb units too.  But you set them by sending
a command over the serial port.  Not by a control voltage.  The DAC is
internal to the unit.  I plan to use a $5 TI Launch Pad.  But
basically the same over all ideas he used.  At $5 each with shipping
included TI is losing money.  The device is self programming via a
USB connection.

On Sun, Mar 24, 2013 at 9:43 PM, Daniel Schultz n8fgv@usa.net wrote:

Another great ham passes on, I'm sorry I never had a chance to meet him.

Is the GPS controller that Brooks published still useful today, or has it been
superseded by something newer? I have a Motorola GPS receiver (PVT-6) with 1
pps output, and an HP oscillator (model number escapes me at the moment). I
also have one of the $30 ebay rubidium modules (FE-5680A) that were discussed
here in previous years. I only need a controller to tie them all together.

Should I build Brooks' circuit to work with my old Motorola PVT-6 or should I
look for something else (perhaps one of the Jupiter receivers with 10 kHz
output)? The D/A chip in his design seems to be obsolete, his archived web
site says to contact him for the chip but we can't do that anymore. Are they
still available?

Dan Schultz N8FGV


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Chris Albertson
Redondo Beach, California

I think Brooks' design is worth studying. It is simple enough and uses 20 year old technology so even use old folks can follow how it works. Then you go off and build something else using current parts I have one of those cheaper Rb units too. But you set them by sending a command over the serial port. Not by a control voltage. The DAC is internal to the unit. I plan to use a $5 TI Launch Pad. But basically the same over all ideas he used. At $5 each with shipping included TI is losing money. The device is self programming via a USB connection. On Sun, Mar 24, 2013 at 9:43 PM, Daniel Schultz <n8fgv@usa.net> wrote: > Another great ham passes on, I'm sorry I never had a chance to meet him. > > Is the GPS controller that Brooks published still useful today, or has it been > superseded by something newer? I have a Motorola GPS receiver (PVT-6) with 1 > pps output, and an HP oscillator (model number escapes me at the moment). I > also have one of the $30 ebay rubidium modules (FE-5680A) that were discussed > here in previous years. I only need a controller to tie them all together. > > Should I build Brooks' circuit to work with my old Motorola PVT-6 or should I > look for something else (perhaps one of the Jupiter receivers with 10 kHz > output)? The D/A chip in his design seems to be obsolete, his archived web > site says to contact him for the chip but we can't do that anymore. Are they > still available? > > Dan Schultz N8FGV > > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there. -- Chris Albertson Redondo Beach, California
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WB6BNQ
Mon, Mar 25, 2013 8:00 AM

Chris,

Can you point me to the web site where the TI Launch Pad is sold for $5 including
shipping ?

Thank you,

Bill....WB6BNQ

Chris Albertson wrote:

snip

I plan to use a $5 TI Launch Pad.  But
basically the same over all ideas he used.  At $5 each with shipping
included TI is losing money.  The device is self programming via a
USB connection.

snip

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Chris Albertson
Redondo Beach, California


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Chris, Can you point me to the web site where the TI Launch Pad is sold for $5 including shipping ? Thank you, Bill....WB6BNQ Chris Albertson wrote: > snip > > I plan to use a $5 TI Launch Pad. But > basically the same over all ideas he used. At $5 each with shipping > included TI is losing money. The device is self programming via a > USB connection. > > snip > > -- > > Chris Albertson > Redondo Beach, California > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there.
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Dimitry Borzenko
Mon, Mar 25, 2013 8:16 AM

Hello Bill.
Here link : http://www.ti.com/ww/en/launchpad/overview_head.html
10 - 13$ TI kits.

Regards.

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Chris,

Can you point me to the web site where the TI Launch Pad is sold for $5
including
shipping ?

Thank you,

Bill....WB6BNQ

Chris Albertson wrote:

snip

I plan to use a $5 TI Launch Pad.  But
basically the same over all ideas he used.  At $5 each with shipping
included TI is losing money.  The device is self programming via a
USB connection.

snip

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Chris Albertson
Redondo Beach, California


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Hello Bill. Here link : http://www.ti.com/ww/en/launchpad/overview_head.html 10 - 13$ TI kits. Regards. -----Original Message----- From: time-nuts-bounces@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-bounces@febo.com] On Behalf Of WB6BNQ Sent: Monday, March 25, 2013 10:01 AM To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement; Chris Albertson Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Brooks Shera Chris, Can you point me to the web site where the TI Launch Pad is sold for $5 including shipping ? Thank you, Bill....WB6BNQ Chris Albertson wrote: > snip > > I plan to use a $5 TI Launch Pad. But > basically the same over all ideas he used. At $5 each with shipping > included TI is losing money. The device is self programming via a > USB connection. > > snip > > -- > > Chris Albertson > Redondo Beach, California > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there. _______________________________________________ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.