I sent my last post regarding CPES, and then discovered that my computer had automatically logged the website I was looking for. It is http://www.smithandcompany.org/index.htm Perhaps some of you will find this site useful if you are tackling the problem of bad wood on or in your boat. I have not used any of the CPES products myself, having only just learned of them, so I cannot say they are good, bad, or indifferent. However, the couple of personal experience posts I have read in the Grand Banks Owners Association maintenance forum speak highly of the CPES products/processes. _________________________________________ C. Marin Faure GB36 "La Perouse" Bellingham, Washington