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Tom Holmes
Fri, Jul 15, 2022 5:48 PM

For the Dayton area guys, I will be headed down to Jeff's this coming Thursday, so if you want anything from him, work out
the details with him and I'll be happy to haul it back up here, provided it fits in the back of the suburban. I'll have an
empty seat or two if anyone wants to ride along. Leaving my place at 8 am.

Tom Holmes, N8ZM

-----Original Message-----
From: Zack Widup via mvus-list mvus-list@lists.febo.com
Sent: Friday, July 15, 2022 12:40 PM
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Cc: Joe gojoe55@gmail.com; Zack Widup w9sz.zack@gmail.com
Subject: [mvus-list] Re: 5cm activity?

I am active on 5760 SSB/CW. Usually from a hilltop somewhere in EN50 -
EN50ue and EN50rl are my favorite places.

73, Zack W9SZ

On Fri, Jul 15, 2022 at 10:25 AM Joe via mvus-list mvus-list@lists.febo.com
wrote:

Kent,
Is there any 5760 MHz EME activity among the NTMS group?
Joe - WA8OGS

On Jul 15, 2022, at 11:15 AM, KENT BRITAIN via mvus-list <

Most of the activity has been surplus from the Telephone industry and

their 6 GHz Microwave links that use to chriss-cross the US.  Mixers,
filters, and the TWTA's.  Later the Solid State replacements for the
TWT's.    For years we have considered 20 watt 6 cm stations to be the low
power guys.


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For the Dayton area guys, I will be headed down to Jeff's this coming Thursday, so if you want anything from him, work out the details with him and I'll be happy to haul it back up here, provided it fits in the back of the suburban. I'll have an empty seat or two if anyone wants to ride along. Leaving my place at 8 am. Tom Holmes, N8ZM -----Original Message----- From: Zack Widup via mvus-list <mvus-list@lists.febo.com> Sent: Friday, July 15, 2022 12:40 PM To: Midwest VHF/UHF Society Mailing List <mvus-list@lists.febo.com> Cc: Joe <gojoe55@gmail.com>; Zack Widup <w9sz.zack@gmail.com> Subject: [mvus-list] Re: 5cm activity? I am active on 5760 SSB/CW. Usually from a hilltop somewhere in EN50 - EN50ue and EN50rl are my favorite places. 73, Zack W9SZ On Fri, Jul 15, 2022 at 10:25 AM Joe via mvus-list <mvus-list@lists.febo.com> wrote: > Kent, > Is there any 5760 MHz EME activity among the NTMS group? > Joe - WA8OGS > > > On Jul 15, 2022, at 11:15 AM, KENT BRITAIN via mvus-list < > mvus-list@lists.febo.com> wrote: > > > > Most of the activity has been surplus from the Telephone industry and > their 6 GHz Microwave links that use to chriss-cross the US. Mixers, > filters, and the TWTA's. Later the Solid State replacements for the > TWT's. For years we have considered 20 watt 6 cm stations to be the low > power guys. > _______________________________________________ > mvus-list mailing list -- mvus-list@lists.febo.com > To unsubscribe send an email to mvus-list-leave@lists.febo.com > _______________________________________________ mvus-list mailing list -- mvus-list@lists.febo.com To unsubscribe send an email to mvus-list-leave@lists.febo.com
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Trevor Clarke
Fri, Jul 15, 2022 9:03 PM

A few minutes searching around minicircuits and this trio would go most of
the way towards a 5.7603GHz CW beacon

https://www.minicircuits.com/WebStore/dashboard.html?model=ROS-480%2B
$25  (only available in 10 or more...someone probably resells it)
https://www.minicircuits.com/WebStore/dashboard.html?model=ZX90-12-63-S%2B
$50
https://www.minicircuits.com/WebStore/dashboard.html?model=JSW2-63DR%2B
$4  (only available in 20 or more...find a reseller, or just keep the
extras, who doesn't need some RF switches?)

386-480MHz oscillator, 12x multiplier (2.5-6GHz), and a fast RF switch for
5-6GHz. Throw in an arduino, probably a PA, and some glue components and it
should be ready to plug-in and go.

Trevor R.H. Clarke
Computer Science House
Rochester Institute of Technology
retrev@csh.rit.edu
http://www.csh.rit.edu/~retrev/

On Fri, Jul 15, 2022 at 12:04 PM Trevor Clarke retrev@csh.rit.edu wrote:

I'd be happy to work on some antenna designs (probably a horn for feeding
a dish). Anyone want to look around for decent surplus mixer, amp, etc? (or
design something)

Trevor R.H. Clarke
Computer Science House
Rochester Institute of Technology
retrev@csh.rit.edu
http://www.csh.rit.edu/~retrev/

On Fri, Jul 15, 2022 at 11:50 AM Tom Holmes tholmes@woh.rr.com wrote:

I’m thinking that we could stir up some activity via MVUS with a design
and some hardware. The 10 GHz activity just exploded over the last year,
all just due to W8BYA’s efforts and promotion. I think he was as surprised
as anyone by it.

From Tom Holmes, N8ZM

On Jul 15, 2022, at 11:26 AM, Trevor Clarke via mvus-list <

So, QRP is enough to pop corn? 🤣

Any idea if there are enough active stations around Ohio to be worth
investing in ?

Trevor R.H. Clarke
Computer Science House
Rochester Institute of Technology
retrev@csh.rit.edu
http://www.csh.rit.edu/~retrev/

On Fri, Jul 15, 2022 at 11:15 AM KENT BRITAIN wa5vjb@flash.net

wrote:

Most of the activity has been surplus from the Telephone industry and
their 6 GHz Microwave links that use to chriss-cross the US.  Mixers,
filters, and the TWTA's.  Later the Solid State replacements for the
TWT's.    For years we have considered 20 watt 6 cm stations to be the

low

power guys.

On Friday, July 15, 2022, 10:09:08 AM CDT, Trevor Clarke via mvus-list

<

mvus-list@lists.febo.com> wrote:

Anyone know if there's any weak signal activity on 5cm? Seems like an
interesting band because it's pretty close to 5GHz WiFi so I would

think

equipment could be cobbled together pretty inexpensively. I know there

are

a couple of Japanese satellites using it for downlinks but I don't know
about anything else.

Trevor R.H. Clarke
Computer Science House
Rochester Institute of Technology
retrev@csh.rit.edu
http://www.csh.rit.edu/~retrev/


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A few minutes searching around minicircuits and this trio would go most of the way towards a 5.7603GHz CW beacon https://www.minicircuits.com/WebStore/dashboard.html?model=ROS-480%2B $25 (only available in 10 or more...someone probably resells it) https://www.minicircuits.com/WebStore/dashboard.html?model=ZX90-12-63-S%2B $50 https://www.minicircuits.com/WebStore/dashboard.html?model=JSW2-63DR%2B $4 (only available in 20 or more...find a reseller, or just keep the extras, who doesn't need some RF switches?) 386-480MHz oscillator, 12x multiplier (2.5-6GHz), and a fast RF switch for 5-6GHz. Throw in an arduino, probably a PA, and some glue components and it should be ready to plug-in and go. Trevor R.H. Clarke Computer Science House Rochester Institute of Technology retrev@csh.rit.edu http://www.csh.rit.edu/~retrev/ On Fri, Jul 15, 2022 at 12:04 PM Trevor Clarke <retrev@csh.rit.edu> wrote: > I'd be happy to work on some antenna designs (probably a horn for feeding > a dish). Anyone want to look around for decent surplus mixer, amp, etc? (or > design something) > > Trevor R.H. Clarke > Computer Science House > Rochester Institute of Technology > retrev@csh.rit.edu > http://www.csh.rit.edu/~retrev/ > > > On Fri, Jul 15, 2022 at 11:50 AM Tom Holmes <tholmes@woh.rr.com> wrote: > >> I’m thinking that we could stir up some activity via MVUS with a design >> and some hardware. The 10 GHz activity just exploded over the last year, >> all just due to W8BYA’s efforts and promotion. I think he was as surprised >> as anyone by it. >> >> From Tom Holmes, N8ZM >> >> > On Jul 15, 2022, at 11:26 AM, Trevor Clarke via mvus-list < >> mvus-list@lists.febo.com> wrote: >> > >> > So, QRP is enough to pop corn? 🤣 >> > >> > Any idea if there are enough active stations around Ohio to be worth >> > investing in ? >> > >> > Trevor R.H. Clarke >> > Computer Science House >> > Rochester Institute of Technology >> > retrev@csh.rit.edu >> > http://www.csh.rit.edu/~retrev/ >> > >> > >> >> On Fri, Jul 15, 2022 at 11:15 AM KENT BRITAIN <wa5vjb@flash.net> >> wrote: >> >> >> >> Most of the activity has been surplus from the Telephone industry and >> >> their 6 GHz Microwave links that use to chriss-cross the US. Mixers, >> >> filters, and the TWTA's. Later the Solid State replacements for the >> >> TWT's. For years we have considered 20 watt 6 cm stations to be the >> low >> >> power guys. >> >> >> >> On Friday, July 15, 2022, 10:09:08 AM CDT, Trevor Clarke via mvus-list >> < >> >> mvus-list@lists.febo.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> Anyone know if there's any weak signal activity on 5cm? Seems like an >> >> interesting band because it's pretty close to 5GHz WiFi so I would >> think >> >> equipment could be cobbled together pretty inexpensively. I know there >> are >> >> a couple of Japanese satellites using it for downlinks but I don't know >> >> about anything else. >> >> >> >> Trevor R.H. Clarke >> >> Computer Science House >> >> Rochester Institute of Technology >> >> retrev@csh.rit.edu >> >> http://www.csh.rit.edu/~retrev/ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> mvus-list mailing list -- mvus-list@lists.febo.com >> >> To unsubscribe send an email to mvus-list-leave@lists.febo.com >> >> >> > _______________________________________________ >> > mvus-list mailing list -- mvus-list@lists.febo.com >> > To unsubscribe send an email to mvus-list-leave@lists.febo.com >> >>
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Zack Widup
Fri, Jul 15, 2022 9:40 PM

Many years ago I built the original N1BWT (now W1GHZ) design for a 5760 MHz
transverter. It used ratrace balanced mixers and pipe cap filters. He has
since updated the design and uses a packaged Mini Circuits mixer.

http://www.w1ghz.org/MBT/5760_MHz_Transverter_Update_March_2016.pdf

This is very similar to the 10 GHz transverter he recently designed, which
I just built. It appears to be an excellent performer. I would guess that
this one is, too. (So was the original design.) The main difference between
the 5760 and 10368 transverters is different sized pipe caps and different
MMIC's. There are a lot of better performing MMIC's around than there were
in the 1990's.

The article shows the multiplier for the LO for the transverter. Paul
supplies boards for both the LO multiplier and the transverter. I use a
DigiLO for the LO source. The 1123.200 MHz output into the LO multiplier
provides enough output for the mixer on the transverter board.

Someone gave me a 5760 MHz amp because he didn't know what it was. I
figured it out. It puts out 10 watts with 1 mW (0 dBm) input. I'm using a
GaAsFET preamp.

73, Zack W9SZ

On Fri, Jul 15, 2022 at 10:09 AM Trevor Clarke via mvus-list <
mvus-list@lists.febo.com> wrote:

Anyone know if there's any weak signal activity on 5cm? Seems like an
interesting band because it's pretty close to 5GHz WiFi so I would think
equipment could be cobbled together pretty inexpensively. I know there are
a couple of Japanese satellites using it for downlinks but I don't know
about anything else.

Trevor R.H. Clarke
Computer Science House
Rochester Institute of Technology
retrev@csh.rit.edu
http://www.csh.rit.edu/~retrev/


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Many years ago I built the original N1BWT (now W1GHZ) design for a 5760 MHz transverter. It used ratrace balanced mixers and pipe cap filters. He has since updated the design and uses a packaged Mini Circuits mixer. http://www.w1ghz.org/MBT/5760_MHz_Transverter_Update_March_2016.pdf This is very similar to the 10 GHz transverter he recently designed, which I just built. It appears to be an excellent performer. I would guess that this one is, too. (So was the original design.) The main difference between the 5760 and 10368 transverters is different sized pipe caps and different MMIC's. There are a lot of better performing MMIC's around than there were in the 1990's. The article shows the multiplier for the LO for the transverter. Paul supplies boards for both the LO multiplier and the transverter. I use a DigiLO for the LO source. The 1123.200 MHz output into the LO multiplier provides enough output for the mixer on the transverter board. Someone gave me a 5760 MHz amp because he didn't know what it was. I figured it out. It puts out 10 watts with 1 mW (0 dBm) input. I'm using a GaAsFET preamp. 73, Zack W9SZ On Fri, Jul 15, 2022 at 10:09 AM Trevor Clarke via mvus-list < mvus-list@lists.febo.com> wrote: > Anyone know if there's any weak signal activity on 5cm? Seems like an > interesting band because it's pretty close to 5GHz WiFi so I would think > equipment could be cobbled together pretty inexpensively. I know there are > a couple of Japanese satellites using it for downlinks but I don't know > about anything else. > > Trevor R.H. Clarke > Computer Science House > Rochester Institute of Technology > retrev@csh.rit.edu > http://www.csh.rit.edu/~retrev/ > _______________________________________________ > mvus-list mailing list -- mvus-list@lists.febo.com > To unsubscribe send an email to mvus-list-leave@lists.febo.com >