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Re: [time-nuts] Looking for off-the-shelf device to timestamp multiple PPS inputs

DL
Don Latham
Mon, Oct 3, 2011 11:32 PM

Excellent, Tom. I missed it!
Don

Tom Van Baak

Hal, Don,

I too have tried all the PC-based (serial/parallel port) solutions.
As we discussed at lot with the TEC thread, they work pretty
well. But for general use, or stand-alone operation, what I use
for dirt cheap non-nanosecond timing is a TBolt-10MHz-driven
isochronous microcontroller.

tvb came up with just the perfect solution:

Details here:

http://www.leapsecond.com/pic/picpet.htm

/tvb


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Excellent, Tom. I missed it! Don Tom Van Baak > Hal, Don, > > I too have tried all the PC-based (serial/parallel port) solutions. > As we discussed at lot with the TEC thread, they work pretty > well. But for general use, or stand-alone operation, what I use > for dirt cheap non-nanosecond timing is a TBolt-10MHz-driven > isochronous microcontroller. > >> tvb came up with just the perfect solution: > > Details here: > > http://www.leapsecond.com/pic/picpet.htm > > /tvb > > > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to > https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there. > -- "Neither the voice of authority nor the weight of reason and argument are as significant as experiment, for thence comes quiet to the mind." R. Bacon "If you don't know what it is, don't poke it." Ghost in the Shell Dr. Don Latham AJ7LL Six Mile Systems LLP 17850 Six Mile Road POB 134 Huson, MT, 59846 VOX 406-626-4304 www.lightningforensics.com www.sixmilesystems.com
NM
Neville Michie
Tue, Oct 4, 2011 12:20 AM

That looks like a great solution for monitoring oscillators/GPSDOs.
Where to find an application that inputs RS232 and writes a file?

cheers,
Neville Michie

On 04/10/2011, at 6:54 AM, Tom Van Baak wrote:

Hal, Don,

I too have tried all the PC-based (serial/parallel port) solutions.
As we discussed at lot with the TEC thread, they work pretty
well. But for general use, or stand-alone operation, what I use
for dirt cheap non-nanosecond timing is a TBolt-10MHz-driven
isochronous microcontroller.

tvb came up with just the perfect solution:

Details here:

http://www.leapsecond.com/pic/picpet.htm

/tvb


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That looks like a great solution for monitoring oscillators/GPSDOs. Where to find an application that inputs RS232 and writes a file? cheers, Neville Michie On 04/10/2011, at 6:54 AM, Tom Van Baak wrote: > Hal, Don, > > I too have tried all the PC-based (serial/parallel port) solutions. > As we discussed at lot with the TEC thread, they work pretty > well. But for general use, or stand-alone operation, what I use > for dirt cheap non-nanosecond timing is a TBolt-10MHz-driven > isochronous microcontroller. > >> tvb came up with just the perfect solution: > > Details here: > > http://www.leapsecond.com/pic/picpet.htm > > /tvb > > > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ > time-nuts > and follow the instructions there.
JL
Jim Lux
Tue, Oct 4, 2011 12:39 AM

On 10/3/11 5:20 PM, Neville Michie wrote:

That looks like a great solution for monitoring oscillators/GPSDOs.
Where to find an application that inputs RS232 and writes a file?

Hyperterm?
Minicom?

in a DOS box

mode COMn:9600,n,8,1
copy COMn filename

You could suffer great mental pain and use one of the various .NET
flavors, each of which has a different interface to the com ports, and
crank out something in Visual C# Express Edition.

On 10/3/11 5:20 PM, Neville Michie wrote: > That looks like a great solution for monitoring oscillators/GPSDOs. > Where to find an application that inputs RS232 and writes a file? > Hyperterm? Minicom? in a DOS box > mode COMn:9600,n,8,1 > copy COMn filename You could suffer great mental pain and use one of the various .NET flavors, each of which has a different interface to the com ports, and crank out something in Visual C# Express Edition.
DL
Don Latham
Tue, Oct 4, 2011 12:57 AM

I use a freebie language called Robot Basic. It is very flexible, easy
to use, has a yahoo group of users, and the price is right! It will run
on any of the Win os's and does not require installation, that is does
not use the pesky .net or the registry. .exe files can be made, too.
Don

Neville Michie

That looks like a great solution for monitoring oscillators/GPSDOs.
Where to find an application that inputs RS232 and writes a file?

cheers,
Neville Michie

On 04/10/2011, at 6:54 AM, Tom Van Baak wrote:

Hal, Don,

I too have tried all the PC-based (serial/parallel port) solutions.
As we discussed at lot with the TEC thread, they work pretty
well. But for general use, or stand-alone operation, what I use
for dirt cheap non-nanosecond timing is a TBolt-10MHz-driven
isochronous microcontroller.

tvb came up with just the perfect solution:

Details here:

http://www.leapsecond.com/pic/picpet.htm

/tvb


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are as significant as experiment, for thence comes quiet to the mind."
R. Bacon
"If you don't know what it is, don't poke it."
Ghost in the Shell

Dr. Don Latham AJ7LL
Six Mile Systems LLP
17850 Six Mile Road
POB 134
Huson, MT, 59846
VOX 406-626-4304
www.lightningforensics.com
www.sixmilesystems.com

I use a freebie language called Robot Basic. It is very flexible, easy to use, has a yahoo group of users, and the price is right! It will run on any of the Win os's and does not require installation, that is does not use the pesky .net or the registry. .exe files can be made, too. Don Neville Michie > That looks like a great solution for monitoring oscillators/GPSDOs. > Where to find an application that inputs RS232 and writes a file? > > cheers, > Neville Michie > > > > On 04/10/2011, at 6:54 AM, Tom Van Baak wrote: > >> Hal, Don, >> >> I too have tried all the PC-based (serial/parallel port) solutions. >> As we discussed at lot with the TEC thread, they work pretty >> well. But for general use, or stand-alone operation, what I use >> for dirt cheap non-nanosecond timing is a TBolt-10MHz-driven >> isochronous microcontroller. >> >>> tvb came up with just the perfect solution: >> >> Details here: >> >> http://www.leapsecond.com/pic/picpet.htm >> >> /tvb >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com >> To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ >> time-nuts >> and follow the instructions there. > > > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to > https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there. > -- "Neither the voice of authority nor the weight of reason and argument are as significant as experiment, for thence comes quiet to the mind." R. Bacon "If you don't know what it is, don't poke it." Ghost in the Shell Dr. Don Latham AJ7LL Six Mile Systems LLP 17850 Six Mile Road POB 134 Huson, MT, 59846 VOX 406-626-4304 www.lightningforensics.com www.sixmilesystems.com
CA
Chris Albertson
Tue, Oct 4, 2011 1:38 AM

On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 5:20 PM, Neville Michie namichie@gmail.com wrote:

That looks like a great solution for monitoring oscillators/GPSDOs.
Where to find an application that inputs RS232 and writes a file?

I don't think you need anything very complex for that.  One could
simply "cat" the serial port device to a log file

cat /dev/tty01 | somename.log

Anyone who could build a uP powered device could figure out somethig
even nicer in about 5 seconds using Perl, Python or whatever.

Chris Albertson
Redondo Beach, California

On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 5:20 PM, Neville Michie <namichie@gmail.com> wrote: > That looks like a great solution for monitoring oscillators/GPSDOs. > Where to find an application that inputs RS232 and writes a file? I don't think you need anything very complex for that. One could simply "cat" the serial port device to a log file cat /dev/tty01 | somename.log Anyone who could build a uP powered device could figure out somethig even nicer in about 5 seconds using Perl, Python or whatever. Chris Albertson Redondo Beach, California
TD
Tijd Dingen
Tue, Oct 4, 2011 1:55 AM

On 10/3/11 5:20 PM, Neville Michie wrote:

That looks like a great solution for monitoring oscillators/GPSDOs.
Where to find an application that inputs RS232 and writes a file?

Hyperterm?
Minicom?

in a DOS box:
mode COMn:9600,n,8,1
copy COMn filename

You could suffer great mental pain and use one of the various .NET flavors, each of which has a different interface to the com ports,
and crank out something in Visual C# Express Edition.

Or you could suffer less mental pain, and use C++ boost to get a cleaner interface to the com port. Works cross platform too, which cannot be said for the .NET serial stuff.

But for reading from com port and writing to file I'd say keep it simple. Which translates to your minicom suggestion or even the copy-in-a-dosbox on windoze, and just catting /dev/ttyS0 to your favorite file or pipe on linux.

regards,
Fred

On 10/3/11 5:20 PM, Neville Michie wrote: > > That looks like a great solution for monitoring oscillators/GPSDOs. > > Where to find an application that inputs RS232 and writes a file? > > Hyperterm? > Minicom? > in a DOS box: > mode COMn:9600,n,8,1 > copy COMn filename > You could suffer great mental pain and use one of the various .NET flavors, each of which has a different interface to the com ports, > and crank out something in Visual C# Express Edition. Or you could suffer less mental pain, and use C++ boost to get a cleaner interface to the com port. Works cross platform too, which cannot be said for the .NET serial stuff. But for reading from com port and writing to file I'd say keep it simple. Which translates to your minicom suggestion or even the copy-in-a-dosbox on windoze, and just catting /dev/ttyS0 to your favorite file or pipe on linux. regards, Fred
TD
Tijd Dingen
Tue, Oct 4, 2011 2:11 AM

That looks like a great solution for monitoring oscillators/GPSDOs.
Where to find an application that inputs RS232 and writes a file?

I don't think you need anything very complex for that.   One could
simply "cat" the serial port device to a log file

cat /dev/tty01 | somename.log

I see someone beat me to it. ;)

Although around here we do:

cat /dev/ttyS0 > somename.log

and

cat /dev/ttyS0 | five_seconds_of_perl.pl

Anyone who could build a uP powered device could figure out somethig

even nicer in about 5 seconds using Perl, Python or whatever.

My thoughts exactly.

> > That looks like a great solution for monitoring oscillators/GPSDOs. > > Where to find an application that inputs RS232 and writes a file? > I don't think you need anything very complex for that.  One could > simply "cat" the serial port device to a log file > cat /dev/tty01 | somename.log I see someone beat me to it. ;) Although around here we do: cat /dev/ttyS0 > somename.log and cat /dev/ttyS0 | five_seconds_of_perl.pl > Anyone who could build a uP powered device could figure out somethig > even nicer in about 5 seconds using Perl, Python or whatever. My thoughts exactly.