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Albin43Tr@aol.com

Thu, Feb 28, 2002 5:01 AM

Chuck & All,

Chuck, while you were asking about BW Velvet Drives, others may be interested
in knowing that Twin Disc 502 transmissions can also be freewheeled and do
not have a speed limitation, but must be lubed by running the engine every 8
hours, per the manual I have.

Wayne
M/V Celestial
Albin 43 Sundeck

Chuck & All, Chuck, while you were asking about BW Velvet Drives, others may be interested in knowing that Twin Disc 502 transmissions can also be freewheeled and do not have a speed limitation, but must be lubed by running the engine every 8 hours, per the manual I have. Wayne M/V Celestial Albin 43 Sundeck

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yourcaptain@earthlink.net

Thu, Feb 28, 2002 2:28 PM

At 12:01 AM 2/28/02 EST, you wrote:

Chuck & All,

Chuck, while you were asking about BW Velvet Drives, others may be

interested

in knowing that Twin Disc 502 transmissions can also be freewheeled and do
not have a speed limitation, but must be lubed by running the engine every 8
hours, per the manual I have.

Wayne
M/V Celestial

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As extra insurance fill the gear with oil right to the top until it runs
out, so that the gears will be completely bathe in oil and are lubricated
as it spins.................
.

Captain Al Pilvinis

"M/V Driftwood"--Prairie 47
2630 N.E. 41st Street
Lighthouse Point, Fl 33064-8064
Voice 954-941-2556 Fax 954 788-2666
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At 12:01 AM 2/28/02 EST, you wrote: >Chuck & All, > >Chuck, while you were asking about BW Velvet Drives, others may be interested >in knowing that Twin Disc 502 transmissions can also be freewheeled and do >not have a speed limitation, but must be lubed by running the engine every 8 >hours, per the manual I have. > >Wayne >M/V Celestial ======================================================= As extra insurance fill the gear with oil right to the top until it runs out, so that the gears will be completely bathe in oil and are lubricated as it spins................. . Captain Al Pilvinis "M/V Driftwood"--Prairie 47 2630 N.E. 41st Street Lighthouse Point, Fl 33064-8064 Voice 954-941-2556 Fax 954 788-2666 Email yourcaptain@earthlink.net Website http://home.earthlink.net/~yourcaptain

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weldred@zoo.uvm.edu

Thu, Feb 28, 2002 3:19 PM

Cap'n Al:

I think there can be two different issues here. One is getting
lubrication to vital parts and overfilling, as a temporary expedient,
might accomplish this. The other issue is cooling of the transmission
lubricant and that would seem to depend on a pump on the input side of
the transmission. I have no idea how much heat would be generated in
this freewheel mode. It may well be a non-issue at the speeds to which
most of us are limited.

Wesley
weldred@zoo.uvm.edu

Captain Al Pilvinis wrote:

At 12:01 AM 2/28/02 EST, you wrote:

Chuck & All,

Chuck, while you were asking about BW Velvet Drives, others may be

interested

in knowing that Twin Disc 502 transmissions can also be freewheeled and do
not have a speed limitation, but must be lubed by running the engine every 8
hours, per the manual I have.

Wayne
M/V Celestial

---======================
As extra insurance fill the gear with oil right to the top until it runs
out, so that the gears will be completely bathe in oil and are lubricated
as it spins.................
.

Captain Al Pilvinis

"M/V Driftwood"--Prairie 47
2630 N.E. 41st Street
Lighthouse Point, Fl 33064-8064
Voice 954-941-2556 Fax 954 788-2666
Email yourcaptain@earthlink.net
Website http://home.earthlink.net/~yourcaptain

Cap'n Al: I think there can be two different issues here. One is getting lubrication to vital parts and overfilling, as a temporary expedient, might accomplish this. The other issue is cooling of the transmission lubricant and that would seem to depend on a pump on the input side of the transmission. I have no idea how much heat would be generated in this freewheel mode. It may well be a non-issue at the speeds to which most of us are limited. Wesley weldred@zoo.uvm.edu Captain Al Pilvinis wrote: > > At 12:01 AM 2/28/02 EST, you wrote: > >Chuck & All, > > > >Chuck, while you were asking about BW Velvet Drives, others may be > interested > >in knowing that Twin Disc 502 transmissions can also be freewheeled and do > >not have a speed limitation, but must be lubed by running the engine every 8 > >hours, per the manual I have. > > > >Wayne > >M/V Celestial > ======================================================= > As extra insurance fill the gear with oil right to the top until it runs > out, so that the gears will be completely bathe in oil and are lubricated > as it spins................. > . > > Captain Al Pilvinis > > "M/V Driftwood"--Prairie 47 > 2630 N.E. 41st Street > Lighthouse Point, Fl 33064-8064 > Voice 954-941-2556 Fax 954 788-2666 > Email yourcaptain@earthlink.net > Website http://home.earthlink.net/~yourcaptain

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sdubnoff@circlesys.com

Thu, Feb 28, 2002 7:21 PM

would seem to depend on a pump on the input side of
the transmission. I have no idea how much heat would be generated in
this freewheel mode. It may well be a non-issue at the speeds to which
most of us are limited.

I have been told that the BW transmissions in Nauticat sailboats will get
noticeably hot to the touch after 10-12 hours of fast (for a sailboat)
freewheeling. I can say I was glad to get a feathering prop on my boat and
eliminate this source of noise and wear.

Best,

Steve

Steve Dubnoff
Nauticat 40 M/S, Pyxis, in Washington
sdubnoff@circlesys.com

> would seem to depend on a pump on the input side of >the transmission. I have no idea how much heat would be generated in >this freewheel mode. It may well be a non-issue at the speeds to which >most of us are limited. I have been told that the BW transmissions in Nauticat sailboats will get noticeably hot to the touch after 10-12 hours of fast (for a sailboat) freewheeling. I can say I was glad to get a feathering prop on my boat and eliminate this source of noise and wear. Best, Steve Steve Dubnoff Nauticat 40 M/S, Pyxis, in Washington sdubnoff@circlesys.com

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adventuresoul@yahoo.com

Thu, Feb 28, 2002 7:26 PM

I have a groco water strainer in my boat. Its time to
replace the gaskets on it. West has them for 25.00 for
two pretty simple gaskets. Im wondering what the
ramifications of using form a gasket, like Permatex to
make the seal. Comments??

Dan

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I have a groco water strainer in my boat. Its time to replace the gaskets on it. West has them for 25.00 for two pretty simple gaskets. Im wondering what the ramifications of using form a gasket, like Permatex to make the seal. Comments?? Dan ===== __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Greetings - Send FREE e-cards for every occasion! http://greetings.yahoo.com

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cculotta@iamerica.net

Thu, Feb 28, 2002 8:02 PM

Dan,
Go to an auto parts store and purchase a sheet of gasket material similar
to what the Groco gasket is made of and cut your own.
In fact I keep 3 or 4 different types on brd at all times. Made a gasket
for the raw water pump last mo.
For $25 you can get enough material to make dozens of gaskets.
Another way is to place wax paper , two sheets, one on each surface of the
filter and then lay on a generous bead of silicon on one. Then allow a film
to set on the surface of the silicon . Gently set the second sheet of wax
paper on the top of the silicon and mate the two pieces but DON'T squeeze
them, just a little pressure to form the gasket will do.
After the silicon dries THOROUGHLY, tighten.
Then the next day remove the wax paper . Gasket is made. Been there done
that.

My experience.
CCC
LETS ROLL
CHARLES and PAT CULOTTA
Patterson, La.
http://www.geocities.com/charlesculotta/
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dan Symula"

I have a groco water strainer in my boat. Its time to
replace the gaskets on it

Im wondering what the

ramifications of using form a gasket, like Permatex to
make the seal. Comments??

Dan, Go to an auto parts store and purchase a sheet of gasket material similar to what the Groco gasket is made of and cut your own. In fact I keep 3 or 4 different types on brd at all times. Made a gasket for the raw water pump last mo. For $25 you can get enough material to make dozens of gaskets. Another way is to place wax paper , two sheets, one on each surface of the filter and then lay on a generous bead of silicon on one. Then allow a film to set on the surface of the silicon . Gently set the second sheet of wax paper on the top of the silicon and mate the two pieces but DON'T squeeze them, just a little pressure to form the gasket will do. After the silicon dries THOROUGHLY, tighten. Then the next day remove the wax paper . Gasket is made. Been there done that. My experience. CCC LETS ROLL CHARLES and PAT CULOTTA Patterson, La. http://www.geocities.com/charlesculotta/ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan Symula" > I have a groco water strainer in my boat. Its time to > replace the gaskets on it Im wondering what the > ramifications of using form a gasket, like Permatex to > make the seal. Comments??

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yourcaptain@earthlink.net

Thu, Feb 28, 2002 10:55 PM

At 11:26 AM 2/28/02 -0800, you wrote:

I have a groco water strainer in my boat. Its time to
replace the gaskets on it. West has them for 25.00 for
two pretty simple gaskets. Im wondering what the
ramifications of using form a gasket, like Permatex to
make the seal. Comments??

Dan

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I made gaskets out of an old tire tube for my strainers which I carry about
a foot of for other gaskets like heat xchanger end caps, and good chafing
wrap on wires and hoses.
.

.
Captain Al Pilvinis

"M/V Driftwood"--Prairie 47
2630 N.E. 41st Street
Lighthouse Point, Fl 33064-8064
Voice 954-941-2556 Fax 954 788-2666
Email yourcaptain@earthlink.net
Website http://home.earthlink.net/~yourcaptain

At 11:26 AM 2/28/02 -0800, you wrote: >I have a groco water strainer in my boat. Its time to >replace the gaskets on it. West has them for 25.00 for >two pretty simple gaskets. Im wondering what the >ramifications of using form a gasket, like Permatex to >make the seal. Comments?? > >Dan ================================================================= I made gaskets out of an old tire tube for my strainers which I carry about a foot of for other gaskets like heat xchanger end caps, and good chafing wrap on wires and hoses. . . Captain Al Pilvinis "M/V Driftwood"--Prairie 47 2630 N.E. 41st Street Lighthouse Point, Fl 33064-8064 Voice 954-941-2556 Fax 954 788-2666 Email yourcaptain@earthlink.net Website http://home.earthlink.net/~yourcaptain

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