seeking help

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Clark, Hugh
Thu, Jun 11, 2020 3:29 PM

Colleagues: Please forgive a query that is not directly related to our field, but fully relevant. I have recently moved to a new PC with Windows 10. Naturally, little is the same as it was.

My problem is the Microsoft Chinese pack. How do I get it to default to 繁体字? On the language bar in Windows 7 (old computer) there was an option to prioritize traditional over simplified, but I cannot find this in the new language bar. The traditional are there, but I have to scroll through every simplified option first… very annoying and time consuming!

If anyone knows how to resolve this, I would be very appreciative.

                    柯拉克

Hugh R. Clark, Ph.D.
Professor (Emeritus) of History & East Asian Studies
Ursinus College

Email:                    hclark@ursinus.edumailto:hclark@ursinus.edu

Postal Address:      PO Box 41
Bar Harbor, ME 04609

Shipping Address:  74 Stone Haven Dr.
Bar Harbor, ME 04609

Colleagues: Please forgive a query that is not directly related to our field, but fully relevant. I have recently moved to a new PC with Windows 10. Naturally, little is the same as it was. My problem is the Microsoft Chinese pack. How do I get it to default to 繁体字? On the language bar in Windows 7 (old computer) there was an option to prioritize traditional over simplified, but I cannot find this in the new language bar. The traditional are there, but I have to scroll through every simplified option first… very annoying and time consuming! If anyone knows how to resolve this, I would be very appreciative. 柯拉克 Hugh R. Clark, Ph.D. Professor (Emeritus) of History & East Asian Studies Ursinus College Email: hclark@ursinus.edu<mailto:hclark@ursinus.edu> Postal Address: PO Box 41 Bar Harbor, ME 04609 Shipping Address: 74 Stone Haven Dr. Bar Harbor, ME 04609
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Elad Alyagon
Thu, Jun 11, 2020 3:59 PM

Hi Hugh
You can download the Google Pinyin Input. It's easier to use than
Microsoft. You can transition between simplified and traditional by
pressing a key.

On Thu, Jun 11, 2020 at 8:30 AM Clark, Hugh hclark@ursinus.edu wrote:

Colleagues: Please forgive a query that is not directly related to our
field, but fully relevant. I have recently moved to a new PC with Windows
10. Naturally, little is the same as it was.

My problem is the Microsoft Chinese pack. How do I get it to default to
繁体字? On the language bar in Windows 7 (old computer) there was an option
to prioritize traditional over simplified, but I cannot find this in the
new language bar. The traditional are there, but I have to scroll through
every simplified option first… very annoying and time consuming!

If anyone knows how to resolve this, I would be very appreciative.

                     柯拉克

Hugh R. Clark, Ph.D.

Professor (Emeritus) of History & East Asian Studies

Ursinus College

Email:                    hclark@ursinus.edu

Postal Address:      PO Box 41

                           Bar Harbor, ME 04609

Shipping Address:  74 Stone Haven Dr.

                           Bar Harbor, ME 04609

Listserv mailing list
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Elad Alyagon

Hi Hugh You can download the Google Pinyin Input. It's easier to use than Microsoft. You can transition between simplified and traditional by pressing a key. On Thu, Jun 11, 2020 at 8:30 AM Clark, Hugh <hclark@ursinus.edu> wrote: > Colleagues: Please forgive a query that is not directly related to our > field, but fully relevant. I have recently moved to a new PC with Windows > 10. Naturally, little is the same as it was. > > > > My problem is the Microsoft Chinese pack. How do I get it to default to > 繁体字? On the language bar in Windows 7 (old computer) there was an option > to prioritize traditional over simplified, but I cannot find this in the > new language bar. The traditional are there, but I have to scroll through > every simplified option first… very annoying and time consuming! > > > > If anyone knows how to resolve this, I would be very appreciative. > > > > > > 柯拉克 > > > > > > Hugh R. Clark, Ph.D. > > Professor (Emeritus) of History & East Asian Studies > > Ursinus College > > > > Email: hclark@ursinus.edu > > > > Postal Address: PO Box 41 > > Bar Harbor, ME 04609 > > > > Shipping Address: 74 Stone Haven Dr. > > Bar Harbor, ME 04609 > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Listserv mailing list > Listserv@mail.songyuan.org > http://mail.songyuan.org/mailman/listinfo/listserv_mail.songyuan.org > -- Elad Alyagon
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Joseph A. Adler
Thu, Jun 11, 2020 4:36 PM

According to the page for it on Google Play, it only works in Android.
But I haven't tried it.

Joseph Adler

On 6/11/2020 11:59 AM, Elad Alyagon wrote:

Hi Hugh
You can download the Google Pinyin Input. It's easier to use than
Microsoft. You can transition between simplified and traditional by
pressing a key.

On Thu, Jun 11, 2020 at 8:30 AM Clark, Hugh <hclark@ursinus.edu
mailto:hclark@ursinus.edu> wrote:

 Colleagues: Please forgive a query that is not directly related to
 our field, but fully relevant. I have recently moved to a new PC
 with Windows 10. Naturally, little is the same as it was.

 My problem is the Microsoft Chinese pack. How do I get it to
 default to 繁体字? On the language bar in Windows 7 (old computer)
 there was an option to prioritize traditional over simplified, but
 I cannot find this in the new language bar. The traditional are
 there, but I have to scroll through every simplified option first…
 very annoying and time consuming!

 If anyone knows how to resolve this, I would be very appreciative.

 柯拉克

 Hugh R. Clark, Ph.D.

 Professor (Emeritus) of History & East Asian Studies

 Ursinus College

 Email: hclark@ursinus.edu <mailto:hclark@ursinus.edu>

 Postal Address:      PO Box 41

                               Bar Harbor, ME 04609

 Shipping Address:  74 Stone Haven Dr.

                               Bar Harbor, ME 04609

 _______________________________________________
 Listserv mailing list
 Listserv@mail.songyuan.org <mailto:Listserv@mail.songyuan.org>
 http://mail.songyuan.org/mailman/listinfo/listserv_mail.songyuan.org

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Professor Emeritus
Asian Studies & Religious Studies
Kenyon College
Gambier, Ohio, USA
http://www2.kenyon.edu/Depts/Religion/Fac/Adler/adler.htm

According to the page for it on Google Play, it only works in Android. But I haven't tried it. Joseph Adler On 6/11/2020 11:59 AM, Elad Alyagon wrote: > Hi Hugh > You can download the Google Pinyin Input. It's easier to use than > Microsoft. You can transition between simplified and traditional by > pressing a key. > > On Thu, Jun 11, 2020 at 8:30 AM Clark, Hugh <hclark@ursinus.edu > <mailto:hclark@ursinus.edu>> wrote: > > Colleagues: Please forgive a query that is not directly related to > our field, but fully relevant. I have recently moved to a new PC > with Windows 10. Naturally, little is the same as it was. > > My problem is the Microsoft Chinese pack. How do I get it to > default to 繁体字? On the language bar in Windows 7 (old computer) > there was an option to prioritize traditional over simplified, but > I cannot find this in the new language bar. The traditional are > there, but I have to scroll through every simplified option first… > very annoying and time consuming! > > If anyone knows how to resolve this, I would be very appreciative. > > 柯拉克 > > Hugh R. Clark, Ph.D. > > Professor (Emeritus) of History & East Asian Studies > > Ursinus College > > Email: hclark@ursinus.edu <mailto:hclark@ursinus.edu> > > Postal Address:      PO Box 41 > >                               Bar Harbor, ME 04609 > > Shipping Address:  74 Stone Haven Dr. > >                               Bar Harbor, ME 04609 > > _______________________________________________ > Listserv mailing list > Listserv@mail.songyuan.org <mailto:Listserv@mail.songyuan.org> > http://mail.songyuan.org/mailman/listinfo/listserv_mail.songyuan.org > > > > -- >   Elad Alyagon > > > _______________________________________________ > Listserv mailing list > Listserv@mail.songyuan.org > http://mail.songyuan.org/mailman/listinfo/listserv_mail.songyuan.org -- Joseph A. Adler Professor Emeritus Asian Studies & Religious Studies Kenyon College Gambier, Ohio, USA http://www2.kenyon.edu/Depts/Religion/Fac/Adler/adler.htm
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Curtis Dean Smith
Thu, Jun 11, 2020 4:39 PM

Hugh,

Since Windows 8, Microsoft has shown its colors.  Traditional is there,
but  they make it inconvenient.  I use the Windows key+Space to cycle
through the input methods I have.  For my preferred input, array-30, I then
have to remember to strike Shift to then go from English to Chinese.  (I
have not used Google because I worried that its learning function sends all
typed keys to the mothership for processing, but maybe I am just being
overly cautious.)

Curtis

On Thu, Jun 11, 2020 at 9:01 AM Elad Alyagon elad.alyagon@gmail.com wrote:

Hi Hugh
You can download the Google Pinyin Input. It's easier to use than
Microsoft. You can transition between simplified and traditional by
pressing a key.

On Thu, Jun 11, 2020 at 8:30 AM Clark, Hugh hclark@ursinus.edu wrote:

Colleagues: Please forgive a query that is not directly related to our
field, but fully relevant. I have recently moved to a new PC with Windows
10. Naturally, little is the same as it was.

My problem is the Microsoft Chinese pack. How do I get it to default to
繁体字? On the language bar in Windows 7 (old computer) there was an option
to prioritize traditional over simplified, but I cannot find this in the
new language bar. The traditional are there, but I have to scroll through
every simplified option first… very annoying and time consuming!

If anyone knows how to resolve this, I would be very appreciative.

                     柯拉克

Hugh R. Clark, Ph.D.

Professor (Emeritus) of History & East Asian Studies

Ursinus College

Email:                    hclark@ursinus.edu

Postal Address:      PO Box 41

                           Bar Harbor, ME 04609

Shipping Address:  74 Stone Haven Dr.

                           Bar Harbor, ME 04609

Listserv mailing list
Listserv@mail.songyuan.org
http://mail.songyuan.org/mailman/listinfo/listserv_mail.songyuan.org

Hugh, Since Windows 8, Microsoft has shown its colors. Traditional is there, but they make it inconvenient. I use the Windows key+Space to cycle through the input methods I have. For my preferred input, array-30, I then have to remember to strike Shift to then go from English to Chinese. (I have not used Google because I worried that its learning function sends all typed keys to the mothership for processing, but maybe I am just being overly cautious.) Curtis On Thu, Jun 11, 2020 at 9:01 AM Elad Alyagon <elad.alyagon@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Hugh > You can download the Google Pinyin Input. It's easier to use than > Microsoft. You can transition between simplified and traditional by > pressing a key. > > On Thu, Jun 11, 2020 at 8:30 AM Clark, Hugh <hclark@ursinus.edu> wrote: > >> Colleagues: Please forgive a query that is not directly related to our >> field, but fully relevant. I have recently moved to a new PC with Windows >> 10. Naturally, little is the same as it was. >> >> >> >> My problem is the Microsoft Chinese pack. How do I get it to default to >> 繁体字? On the language bar in Windows 7 (old computer) there was an option >> to prioritize traditional over simplified, but I cannot find this in the >> new language bar. The traditional are there, but I have to scroll through >> every simplified option first… very annoying and time consuming! >> >> >> >> If anyone knows how to resolve this, I would be very appreciative. >> >> >> >> >> >> 柯拉克 >> >> >> >> >> >> Hugh R. Clark, Ph.D. >> >> Professor (Emeritus) of History & East Asian Studies >> >> Ursinus College >> >> >> >> Email: hclark@ursinus.edu >> >> >> >> Postal Address: PO Box 41 >> >> Bar Harbor, ME 04609 >> >> >> >> Shipping Address: 74 Stone Haven Dr. >> >> Bar Harbor, ME 04609 >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Listserv mailing list >> Listserv@mail.songyuan.org >> http://mail.songyuan.org/mailman/listinfo/listserv_mail.songyuan.org >> > > > -- > Elad Alyagon > > _______________________________________________ > Listserv mailing list > Listserv@mail.songyuan.org > http://mail.songyuan.org/mailman/listinfo/listserv_mail.songyuan.org >
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Elad Alyagon
Thu, Jun 11, 2020 4:57 PM

Looks like there's both an app and a version for Windows.
Googling for it now, I found this website that offers instructions on
downloading Googe Pintyin Input.
https://www.geckoandfly.com/3100/%E4%B8%8B%E8%BD%BD%E8%B0%B7%E6%AD%8C%E6%8B%BC%E9%9F%B3%E8%BE%93%E5%85%A5%E6%B3%95-download-google-pinyin-chinese-mandarin-pinyin-input/

On Thu, Jun 11, 2020 at 9:36 AM Joseph A. Adler adlerj@kenyon.edu wrote:

According to the page for it on Google Play, it only works in Android. But
I haven't tried it.

Joseph Adler

On 6/11/2020 11:59 AM, Elad Alyagon wrote:

Hi Hugh
You can download the Google Pinyin Input. It's easier to use than
Microsoft. You can transition between simplified and traditional by
pressing a key.

On Thu, Jun 11, 2020 at 8:30 AM Clark, Hugh hclark@ursinus.edu wrote:

Colleagues: Please forgive a query that is not directly related to our
field, but fully relevant. I have recently moved to a new PC with Windows
10. Naturally, little is the same as it was.

My problem is the Microsoft Chinese pack. How do I get it to default to
繁体字? On the language bar in Windows 7 (old computer) there was an option
to prioritize traditional over simplified, but I cannot find this in the
new language bar. The traditional are there, but I have to scroll through
every simplified option first… very annoying and time consuming!

If anyone knows how to resolve this, I would be very appreciative.

                     柯拉克

Hugh R. Clark, Ph.D.

Professor (Emeritus) of History & East Asian Studies

Ursinus College

Email:                    hclark@ursinus.edu

Postal Address:      PO Box 41

                           Bar Harbor, ME 04609

Shipping Address:  74 Stone Haven Dr.

                           Bar Harbor, ME 04609

Listserv mailing list
Listserv@mail.songyuan.org
http://mail.songyuan.org/mailman/listinfo/listserv_mail.songyuan.org

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Professor Emeritus
Asian Studies & Religious Studies
Kenyon College
Gambier, Ohio, USAhttp://www2.kenyon.edu/Depts/Religion/Fac/Adler/adler.htm

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Elad Alyagon

Looks like there's both an app and a version for Windows. Googling for it now, I found this website that offers instructions on downloading Googe Pintyin Input. https://www.geckoandfly.com/3100/%E4%B8%8B%E8%BD%BD%E8%B0%B7%E6%AD%8C%E6%8B%BC%E9%9F%B3%E8%BE%93%E5%85%A5%E6%B3%95-download-google-pinyin-chinese-mandarin-pinyin-input/ On Thu, Jun 11, 2020 at 9:36 AM Joseph A. Adler <adlerj@kenyon.edu> wrote: > According to the page for it on Google Play, it only works in Android. But > I haven't tried it. > > Joseph Adler > > On 6/11/2020 11:59 AM, Elad Alyagon wrote: > > Hi Hugh > You can download the Google Pinyin Input. It's easier to use than > Microsoft. You can transition between simplified and traditional by > pressing a key. > > On Thu, Jun 11, 2020 at 8:30 AM Clark, Hugh <hclark@ursinus.edu> wrote: > >> Colleagues: Please forgive a query that is not directly related to our >> field, but fully relevant. I have recently moved to a new PC with Windows >> 10. Naturally, little is the same as it was. >> >> >> >> My problem is the Microsoft Chinese pack. How do I get it to default to >> 繁体字? On the language bar in Windows 7 (old computer) there was an option >> to prioritize traditional over simplified, but I cannot find this in the >> new language bar. The traditional are there, but I have to scroll through >> every simplified option first… very annoying and time consuming! >> >> >> >> If anyone knows how to resolve this, I would be very appreciative. >> >> >> >> >> >> 柯拉克 >> >> >> >> >> >> Hugh R. Clark, Ph.D. >> >> Professor (Emeritus) of History & East Asian Studies >> >> Ursinus College >> >> >> >> Email: hclark@ursinus.edu >> >> >> >> Postal Address: PO Box 41 >> >> Bar Harbor, ME 04609 >> >> >> >> Shipping Address: 74 Stone Haven Dr. >> >> Bar Harbor, ME 04609 >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Listserv mailing list >> Listserv@mail.songyuan.org >> http://mail.songyuan.org/mailman/listinfo/listserv_mail.songyuan.org >> > > > -- > Elad Alyagon > > > _______________________________________________ > Listserv mailing listListserv@mail.songyuan.orghttp://mail.songyuan.org/mailman/listinfo/listserv_mail.songyuan.org > > > -- > Joseph A. Adler > Professor Emeritus > Asian Studies & Religious Studies > Kenyon College > Gambier, Ohio, USAhttp://www2.kenyon.edu/Depts/Religion/Fac/Adler/adler.htm > > -- Elad Alyagon
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Michael Fuller
Thu, Jun 11, 2020 5:31 PM

Hugh,

In Windows 10, the Taiwan pinyin input mode is buried a bit.  In Settings, go to Time and Languages.  I gather you already have added Traditional Chinese. Click on the language pack to set its options:

[cid:image001.jpg@01D63FDB.71D94360]

Under Options for the Taiwan language pack,  add the Bopomofo keyboard:

[cid:image002.jpg@01D63FDB.71D94360]

Click on the Bopomofo keyboard to set its options.  In its options, select the HanYu Pinyin layout (if that is your preference):

[cid:image007.jpg@01D63FDB.71D94360]

And off you go.

Michael

From: Listserv [mailto:listserv-bounces@mail.songyuan.org] On Behalf Of Curtis Dean Smith
Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2020 9:40 AM
To: Elad Alyagon
Cc: listserv@songyuan.org
Subject: Re: [Song-Yuan Listserv] seeking help

Hugh,

Since Windows 8, Microsoft has shown its colors.  Traditional is there, but  they make it inconvenient.  I use the Windows key+Space to cycle through the input methods I have.  For my preferred input, array-30, I then have to remember to strike Shift to then go from English to Chinese.  (I have not used Google because I worried that its learning function sends all typed keys to the mothership for processing, but maybe I am just being overly cautious.)

Curtis

On Thu, Jun 11, 2020 at 9:01 AM Elad Alyagon <elad.alyagon@gmail.commailto:elad.alyagon@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Hugh
You can download the Google Pinyin Input. It's easier to use than Microsoft. You can transition between simplified and traditional by pressing a key.

On Thu, Jun 11, 2020 at 8:30 AM Clark, Hugh <hclark@ursinus.edumailto:hclark@ursinus.edu> wrote:
Colleagues: Please forgive a query that is not directly related to our field, but fully relevant. I have recently moved to a new PC with Windows 10. Naturally, little is the same as it was.

My problem is the Microsoft Chinese pack. How do I get it to default to 繁体字? On the language bar in Windows 7 (old computer) there was an option to prioritize traditional over simplified, but I cannot find this in the new language bar. The traditional are there, but I have to scroll through every simplified option first… very annoying and time consuming!

If anyone knows how to resolve this, I would be very appreciative.

                    柯拉克

Hugh R. Clark, Ph.D.
Professor (Emeritus) of History & East Asian Studies
Ursinus College

Email:                    hclark@ursinus.edumailto:hclark@ursinus.edu

Postal Address:      PO Box 41
Bar Harbor, ME 04609

Shipping Address:  74 Stone Haven Dr.
Bar Harbor, ME 04609


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Hugh, In Windows 10, the Taiwan pinyin input mode is buried a bit. In Settings, go to Time and Languages. I gather you already have added Traditional Chinese. Click on the language pack to set its options: [cid:image001.jpg@01D63FDB.71D94360] Under Options for the Taiwan language pack, add the Bopomofo keyboard: [cid:image002.jpg@01D63FDB.71D94360] Click on the Bopomofo keyboard to set its options. In its options, select the HanYu Pinyin layout (if that is your preference): [cid:image007.jpg@01D63FDB.71D94360] And off you go. Michael From: Listserv [mailto:listserv-bounces@mail.songyuan.org] On Behalf Of Curtis Dean Smith Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2020 9:40 AM To: Elad Alyagon Cc: listserv@songyuan.org Subject: Re: [Song-Yuan Listserv] seeking help Hugh, Since Windows 8, Microsoft has shown its colors. Traditional is there, but they make it inconvenient. I use the Windows key+Space to cycle through the input methods I have. For my preferred input, array-30, I then have to remember to strike Shift to then go from English to Chinese. (I have not used Google because I worried that its learning function sends all typed keys to the mothership for processing, but maybe I am just being overly cautious.) Curtis On Thu, Jun 11, 2020 at 9:01 AM Elad Alyagon <elad.alyagon@gmail.com<mailto:elad.alyagon@gmail.com>> wrote: Hi Hugh You can download the Google Pinyin Input. It's easier to use than Microsoft. You can transition between simplified and traditional by pressing a key. On Thu, Jun 11, 2020 at 8:30 AM Clark, Hugh <hclark@ursinus.edu<mailto:hclark@ursinus.edu>> wrote: Colleagues: Please forgive a query that is not directly related to our field, but fully relevant. I have recently moved to a new PC with Windows 10. Naturally, little is the same as it was. My problem is the Microsoft Chinese pack. How do I get it to default to 繁体字? On the language bar in Windows 7 (old computer) there was an option to prioritize traditional over simplified, but I cannot find this in the new language bar. The traditional are there, but I have to scroll through every simplified option first… very annoying and time consuming! If anyone knows how to resolve this, I would be very appreciative. 柯拉克 Hugh R. Clark, Ph.D. Professor (Emeritus) of History & East Asian Studies Ursinus College Email: hclark@ursinus.edu<mailto:hclark@ursinus.edu> Postal Address: PO Box 41 Bar Harbor, ME 04609 Shipping Address: 74 Stone Haven Dr. Bar Harbor, ME 04609 _______________________________________________ Listserv mailing list Listserv@mail.songyuan.org<mailto:Listserv@mail.songyuan.org> http://mail.songyuan.org/mailman/listinfo/listserv_mail.songyuan.org -- Elad Alyagon _______________________________________________ Listserv mailing list Listserv@mail.songyuan.org<mailto:Listserv@mail.songyuan.org> http://mail.songyuan.org/mailman/listinfo/listserv_mail.songyuan.org
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Joseph Adler
Thu, Jun 11, 2020 5:38 PM

Yes, Microsoft certainly makes it difficult. I started with the
instructions at Pinyin Joe's:
http://www.pinyinjoe.com/windows-10/windows-10-traditional-chinese-pinyin-input-setup.htm

Here's how I do it:

  • Settings, Time & Language
  • Add Chinese (Traditional, Taiwan)
  • Options:  Add Keyboard Microsoft Bopomofo [yes!]
  • Options:  input Chinese, output Traditional, Keyboard HanYu Pinyin

Joseph

On 6/11/2020 12:39 PM, Curtis Dean Smith wrote:

Hugh,

Since Windows 8, Microsoft has shown its colors. Traditional is there,
but  they make it inconvenient.  I use the Windows key+Space to cycle
through the input methods I have.  For my preferred input, array-30, I
then have to remember to strike Shift to then go from English to
Chinese. (I have not used Google because I worried that its learning
function sends all typed keys to the mothership for processing, but
maybe I am just being overly cautious.)

Curtis

On Thu, Jun 11, 2020 at 9:01 AM Elad Alyagon <elad.alyagon@gmail.com
mailto:elad.alyagon@gmail.com> wrote:

 Hi Hugh
 You can download the Google Pinyin Input. It's easier to use than
 Microsoft. You can transition between simplified and traditional
 by pressing a key.

 On Thu, Jun 11, 2020 at 8:30 AM Clark, Hugh <hclark@ursinus.edu
 <mailto:hclark@ursinus.edu>> wrote:

     Colleagues: Please forgive a query that is not directly
     related to our field, but fully relevant. I have recently
     moved to a new PC with Windows 10. Naturally, little is the
     same as it was.

     My problem is the Microsoft Chinese pack. How do I get it to
     default to 繁体字? On the language bar in Windows 7 (old
     computer) there was an option to prioritize traditional over
     simplified, but I cannot find this in the new language bar.
     The traditional are there, but I have to scroll through every
     simplified option first… very annoying and time consuming!

     If anyone knows how to resolve this, I would be very appreciative.

     柯拉克

     Hugh R. Clark, Ph.D.

     Professor (Emeritus) of History & East Asian Studies

     Ursinus College

     Email: hclark@ursinus.edu <mailto:hclark@ursinus.edu>

     Postal Address:      PO Box 41

                                   Bar Harbor, ME 04609

     Shipping Address:  74 Stone Haven Dr.

                                   Bar Harbor, ME 04609

     _______________________________________________
     Listserv mailing list
     Listserv@mail.songyuan.org <mailto:Listserv@mail.songyuan.org>
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Yes, Microsoft certainly makes it difficult. I started with the instructions at Pinyin Joe's: http://www.pinyinjoe.com/windows-10/windows-10-traditional-chinese-pinyin-input-setup.htm Here's how I do it: * Settings, Time & Language * Add Chinese (Traditional, Taiwan) * Options:  Add Keyboard Microsoft Bopomofo [yes!] * Options:  input Chinese, output Traditional, Keyboard HanYu Pinyin Joseph On 6/11/2020 12:39 PM, Curtis Dean Smith wrote: > Hugh, > > Since Windows 8, Microsoft has shown its colors. Traditional is there, > but  they make it inconvenient.  I use the Windows key+Space to cycle > through the input methods I have.  For my preferred input, array-30, I > then have to remember to strike Shift to then go from English to > Chinese. (I have not used Google because I worried that its learning > function sends all typed keys to the mothership for processing, but > maybe I am just being overly cautious.) > > Curtis > > > > On Thu, Jun 11, 2020 at 9:01 AM Elad Alyagon <elad.alyagon@gmail.com > <mailto:elad.alyagon@gmail.com>> wrote: > > Hi Hugh > You can download the Google Pinyin Input. It's easier to use than > Microsoft. You can transition between simplified and traditional > by pressing a key. > > On Thu, Jun 11, 2020 at 8:30 AM Clark, Hugh <hclark@ursinus.edu > <mailto:hclark@ursinus.edu>> wrote: > > Colleagues: Please forgive a query that is not directly > related to our field, but fully relevant. I have recently > moved to a new PC with Windows 10. Naturally, little is the > same as it was. > > My problem is the Microsoft Chinese pack. How do I get it to > default to 繁体字? On the language bar in Windows 7 (old > computer) there was an option to prioritize traditional over > simplified, but I cannot find this in the new language bar. > The traditional are there, but I have to scroll through every > simplified option first… very annoying and time consuming! > > If anyone knows how to resolve this, I would be very appreciative. > > 柯拉克 > > Hugh R. Clark, Ph.D. > > Professor (Emeritus) of History & East Asian Studies > > Ursinus College > > Email: hclark@ursinus.edu <mailto:hclark@ursinus.edu> > > Postal Address:      PO Box 41 > >                               Bar Harbor, ME 04609 > > Shipping Address:  74 Stone Haven Dr. > >                               Bar Harbor, ME 04609 > > _______________________________________________ > Listserv mailing list > Listserv@mail.songyuan.org <mailto:Listserv@mail.songyuan.org> > http://mail.songyuan.org/mailman/listinfo/listserv_mail.songyuan.org > > > > -- >   Elad Alyagon > > _______________________________________________ > Listserv mailing list > Listserv@mail.songyuan.org <mailto:Listserv@mail.songyuan.org> > http://mail.songyuan.org/mailman/listinfo/listserv_mail.songyuan.org > > > _______________________________________________ > Listserv mailing list > Listserv@mail.songyuan.org > http://mail.songyuan.org/mailman/listinfo/listserv_mail.songyuan.org -- Joseph A. Adler Professor Emeritus Asian Studies & Religious Studies Kenyon College Gambier, Ohio, USA http://www2.kenyon.edu/Depts/Religion/Fac/Adler/adler.htm