Re: [PCW] New marina capability allows for hauling of multi-hulls
Endeavour Catamaran Corp runs a yard in Tampa Bay that handles cats. www.endeavourcats.com .
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From: Pegasus 44 Pegasus44PC@gmail.com
To: Power Catamaran List power-catamaran@lists.trawlering.com
Subject: Re: [PCW] New marina capability allows for hauling of multi-hulls
Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 11:39:52 -0700
Gary & Elizabeth Haring
Manta 44 Powercat
*Apollo Beach, Florida *
Penny and Bob Kingsbury (Pretty Penny 49 ft. Crosswater)
It is always nice to get useful information about boating from boaters and
it is even more useful when it regards the type of boat you own. As
catamaran owners we have unique requirements that do not apply to the
majority of boaters. How many times have we heard about a great
opportunity only to find out that we cannot take advantage of it because of
our beamy bottoms? This limits competitiveness and choice forcing cat
owners to sometimes accept less than quality customer service, still I will
not give up my cat. Fortunately, the marine industry is changing or
perhaps they are only reacting to what the enlightened cruising public has
known for years, that two hulls are better than one. Still some marinas
and yards feel they are doing cat owners a favor by providing access to
their facility. I understand that a cat fills up a slip where they may be
able to dock two boats and that the T head was designed to accommodate
larger longer yachts so the dock master might have some justification in
their hesitation to place a cat for the fear of lost revenue. Some
compensate by charging more and a few charge double. Understanding their
perspective does not make this any more palatable. Yards are even harder
to comprehend. Hulling out my 44 foot power cat I often find additional
fees added only due to my boat being a cat. Never mind that blocking is so
simple that it takes half the time of a traditional mono hull power boat
and with the light displacement there is much less bottom to deal with. Yet
how many times have I paid extra for pressure washing, sanding, and
painting. They claim there is more bottom but the physics does not support
this. The displacement on a 44 foot trawler weighing 74 thousand pounds
must result in more bottom than a 44 foot 27 thousand pound cat yet I pay
more. When confronted with these facts some suggest that I take my boat
elsewhere. I suspect these people talk with all their customers this way
and sometimes I follow their suggestion yet the majority feel empowered due
to the limited competition that exists forcing me to keep my opinions to
myself. Double standards are truly not the American way of doing business
and these yards will ultimately suffer from their attitude.
My wife and I cruise extensively on Pegasus often hulling out in strange
and exotic locations and not all have been a completely enjoyable
experience. I thank you for the name of a cooperative yard. I am still
looking for one in my local Tampa Bay area that I could recommend. When I
find one I will post it. Please keep the info coming especially concerning
the Bahamas. We have been hesitant to travel there since the downturn in
their economy. We have never had a bad experience in the Bahamas yet my
wife is cautious pointing out that our boat screams money painting us as a
target. I miss the Bahamas more than her because I love to dive. Our
last trip was to the Jumentos where I believe in Flamingo there is this
wonderful reef near the entrance channel that is simply pristine. Enjoy
your cruise and we hope to share an anchorage with you some day.
Gary**
On Sun, Oct 21, 2012 at 10:00 AM, P. King rnpking@hotmail.com wrote:
Cockrell's Marine Railway in the Little Wicomico River, Heathsville, VA
(West of the Chesapeake south of the Potomac River) has removed a finger
pier allowing for the hauling of multi-hulls on the marine railway. Our
boat, Pretty Penny, a 49 ft. power cat with 23 foot beam was just hauled
there. They repaired a soft spot in one keel, wash and waxed the hulls and
gave her new bottom paint. They also did some head work that was worth
every penny we gave them!
We would highly recommend the work of Andy and Miles Cockrell that work
the marina. They are a full service marina with qualified engine mechanics
and they do allow do-it-yourself work. They also have a travel lift that
can handle some trawlers and sail boats.
This marina has a couple of bad reviews in Active Captain. We personally
know one of the reviewers. He got an estimate he thought was too high and
did not use the marina and based his review on that alone.
The Little Wicomico River does have a little tricky entry through a
partially silted jetty. Enter to the North side, then move immediately to
the south side and multihulls with less than 4 foot draft should have no
problem. Two passenger ferries use enter this river twice a day, as well as
many large local fishing boats. Anything close to 5 feet should enter only
on a high tide. We draw 3 and a half feet.
Smith Point Sea Rescue assists boaters in the Smith Point area free of
charge. Hail on Channel 16 if you need them. They can also offer advice on
entering the Little Wicomico.
Contact us is you need further info on the capabilities of this marina.
We will be joining the crowd moving south shortly to spend our 6th winter
in the Bahamas, primarily the Exumas, the Jumentos, and Long Island. Hope
to see some fellow power cats there again this winter. The number of power
cats we encounter grows every year.
Penny and Bob Kingsbury (Pretty Penny 49 ft. Crosswater)
"The true worth of your travels lies not in where you come to be at the
end of your journey's end, but in who you come to be along the way."
Follow along on the travels of "Pretty Penny" on our blog at
http://prettypennycruise.blogspot.com
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We have had very good haul-out service for our Lagoon 44 (21 foot beam)
power cat at Captain's Cove in Bridgeport CT and at Bennett Brothers in
Wilmington NC, where we have wintered "Hog Wild" in 2011 and 2012. Both
marinas are very receptive to cats--no extra charges--and exceptionally
welcoming to their owners. Both have a pretty good amount of space on the
hard, too, as well as a yard qualified to do almost any work you might need
right on-site. We couldn't find a suitable haul-out facility in either South
Carolina or Georgia this past summer, so we elected to stay in Wilmington NC
for the fall/winter. We have begun to suspect that we are attracting
hurricanes, however...
Bruce and Karen Clark
M/Y Hog Wild
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Subject: Re: [PCW] New marina capability allows for hauling of multi-hulls
Endeavour Catamaran Corp runs a yard in Tampa Bay that handles cats.
www.endeavourcats.com .
---------- Original Message ----------
From: Pegasus 44 Pegasus44PC@gmail.com
To: Power Catamaran List power-catamaran@lists.trawlering.com
Subject: Re: [PCW] New marina capability allows for hauling of multi-hulls
Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 11:39:52 -0700
Gary & Elizabeth Haring
Manta 44 Powercat
*Apollo Beach, Florida *
Penny and Bob Kingsbury (Pretty Penny 49 ft. Crosswater)
It is always nice to get useful information about boating from boaters and
it is even more useful when it regards the type of boat you own. As
catamaran owners we have unique requirements that do not apply to the
majority of boaters. How many times have we heard about a great opportunity
only to find out that we cannot take advantage of it because of our beamy
bottoms? This limits competitiveness and choice forcing cat owners to
sometimes accept less than quality customer service, still I will not give
up my cat. Fortunately, the marine industry is changing or perhaps they are
only reacting to what the enlightened cruising public has known for years,
that two hulls are better than one. Still some marinas and yards feel they
are doing cat owners a favor by providing access to their facility. I
understand that a cat fills up a slip where they may be able to dock two
boats and that the T head was designed to accommodate larger longer yachts
so the dock master might have some justification in their hesitation to
place a cat for the fear of lost revenue. Some compensate by charging more
and a few charge double. Understanding their perspective does not make this
any more palatable. Yards are even harder to comprehend. Hulling out my 44
foot power cat I often find additional fees added only due to my boat being
a cat. Never mind that blocking is so simple that it takes half the time of
a traditional mono hull power boat and with the light displacement there is
much less bottom to deal with. Yet how many times have I paid extra for
pressure washing, sanding, and painting. They claim there is more bottom
but the physics does not support this. The displacement on a 44 foot
trawler weighing 74 thousand pounds must result in more bottom than a 44
foot 27 thousand pound cat yet I pay more. When confronted with these facts
some suggest that I take my boat elsewhere. I suspect these people talk
with all their customers this way and sometimes I follow their suggestion
yet the majority feel empowered due to the limited competition that exists
forcing me to keep my opinions to myself. Double standards are truly not the
American way of doing business and these yards will ultimately suffer from
their attitude.
My wife and I cruise extensively on Pegasus often hulling out in strange and
exotic locations and not all have been a completely enjoyable experience. I
thank you for the name of a cooperative yard. I am still looking for one in
my local Tampa Bay area that I could recommend. When I find one I will post
it. Please keep the info coming especially concerning the Bahamas. We have
been hesitant to travel there since the downturn in their economy. We have
never had a bad experience in the Bahamas yet my wife is cautious pointing
out that our boat screams money painting us as a
target. I miss the Bahamas more than her because I love to dive. Our
last trip was to the Jumentos where I believe in Flamingo there is this
wonderful reef near the entrance channel that is simply pristine. Enjoy
your cruise and we hope to share an anchorage with you some day.
Gary**
On Sun, Oct 21, 2012 at 10:00 AM, P. King rnpking@hotmail.com wrote:
Cockrell's Marine Railway in the Little Wicomico River, Heathsville,
VA (West of the Chesapeake south of the Potomac River) has removed a
finger pier allowing for the hauling of multi-hulls on the marine
railway. Our boat, Pretty Penny, a 49 ft. power cat with 23 foot beam
was just hauled there. They repaired a soft spot in one keel, wash and
waxed the hulls and gave her new bottom paint. They also did some head
work that was worth every penny we gave them!
We would highly recommend the work of Andy and Miles Cockrell that
work the marina. They are a full service marina with qualified engine
mechanics and they do allow do-it-yourself work. They also have a
travel lift that can handle some trawlers and sail boats.
This marina has a couple of bad reviews in Active Captain. We
personally know one of the reviewers. He got an estimate he thought
was too high and did not use the marina and based his review on that
alone.
The Little Wicomico River does have a little tricky entry through a
partially silted jetty. Enter to the North side, then move immediately
to the south side and multihulls with less than 4 foot draft should
have no problem. Two passenger ferries use enter this river twice a
day, as well as many large local fishing boats. Anything close to 5
feet should enter only on a high tide. We draw 3 and a half feet.
Smith Point Sea Rescue assists boaters in the Smith Point area free of
charge. Hail on Channel 16 if you need them. They can also offer
advice on entering the Little Wicomico.
Contact us is you need further info on the capabilities of this marina.
We will be joining the crowd moving south shortly to spend our 6th
winter in the Bahamas, primarily the Exumas, the Jumentos, and Long
Island. Hope to see some fellow power cats there again this winter.
The number of power cats we encounter grows every year.
Penny and Bob Kingsbury (Pretty Penny 49 ft. Crosswater)
"The true worth of your travels lies not in where you come to be at
the end of your journey's end, but in who you come to be along the way."
Follow along on the travels of "Pretty Penny" on our blog at
http://prettypennycruise.blogspot.com
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