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Dave Legrow
Wed, Apr 8, 2009 3:35 AM

I'm looking recommendations for a set of full duplex wireless headsets -
preferably under $100 for the pair.  What are the latest recommendations from
from the group?

Dave Legrow

I'm looking recommendations for a set of full duplex wireless headsets - preferably under $100 for the pair. What are the latest recommendations from from the group? Dave Legrow
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Steve Sipe
Wed, Apr 8, 2009 12:05 PM

I'd second the recommendations on the cruising solutions headsets, we
bought ours when we got our trawler. They serve the purpose, they are
functional, inexpensive ($60) and have held up well. We have friends who
spent over $500 for the ones they clip on their belt with the high-end
headset, way overkill IMO.

Even more so since now that we have our routine established, we rarely
use our headsets any longer, they're reserved for really difficult
situations where our normal MO isn't applicable. If I need to
communicate something, I can use the loud hailer, and that is SO much
more authoritative, especially if the announcement is prefaced with "NOW
HEAR THIS...." <G>

OK, we all know if we'd ever use the hailer to relay a wish to the
admiral whilst she is on the bow handling lines that we would not eat
for a week, but you can't deny the impulse is there, that mic hanging
there just pleading with you...... use me, use me......

I blew the Kahlenberg's once unannounced. Uh, oh........ I guess there's
an impish streak in there somewhere.

steve sipe
Solo 4303 "Maerin"
Warderick Wells

I'd second the recommendations on the cruising solutions headsets, we bought ours when we got our trawler. They serve the purpose, they are functional, inexpensive ($60) and have held up well. We have friends who spent over $500 for the ones they clip on their belt with the high-end headset, way overkill IMO. Even more so since now that we have our routine established, we rarely use our headsets any longer, they're reserved for really difficult situations where our normal MO isn't applicable. If I need to communicate something, I can use the loud hailer, and that is SO much more authoritative, especially if the announcement is prefaced with "NOW HEAR THIS...." <G> OK, we all know if we'd ever use the hailer to relay a wish to the admiral whilst she is on the bow handling lines that we would not eat for a week, but you can't deny the impulse is there, that mic hanging there just pleading with you...... use me, use me...... I blew the Kahlenberg's once unannounced. Uh, oh........ I guess there's an impish streak in there somewhere. steve sipe Solo 4303 "Maerin" Warderick Wells
JS
Jeffrey Siegel
Wed, Apr 8, 2009 12:31 PM

We use the Cruising Solutions product.  We use them for every docking,
anchoring, mooring, and fuel filling situation.  They are especially
nice when fueling the boat because one of us can be in the engine room
monitoring the fill level to get it to the exact spot wanted.  No more
banging on the fuel tank and hoping the other person can hear.

They look a little funny.  I totally don't care.  I consider them one
of the most important safety devices that we have onboard - mostly
because they get a lot of use.  We have two pair (just in case one
stops working).  You have to be careful though because there are
different channels that pairs are configured for and getting a second
pair means making sure they're on the same channel as your other set
(you have to work with the dealer or just have some luck).

The biggest problem with them is that the On/Off switch can get turned
on by accident easily when moving them around.  We had it happen a few
times with dead battery results (9V standard battery).  We now put a
little piece of blue 3M tape over the switch and it hasn't been a
problem since.  We've been using the same pair for 5 years.  The other
pair have batteries and are tested but are still in the box.

We've been testing a variety of Bluetooth headset devices on our
boat.  Some are starting to come out with intercoms built-in.  The
Dragon V2 CallPod is a good example:
http://www.callpod.com/products/dragon

There's a nice advantage to them.  Push one button and you're
answering the phone tucked away at the helm (on the amp).  Press
another and you're talking to your partner.  That's the idea.  The
products aren't really "done" yet though.  They need more time in the
oven...

---===
Jeffrey Siegel
M/V aCappella
DeFever 53RPH
W1ACA/WDB4350
Castine, Maine

www.activecaptain.com
The Interactive Cruising Guidebook

..

We use the Cruising Solutions product. We use them for every docking, anchoring, mooring, and fuel filling situation. They are especially nice when fueling the boat because one of us can be in the engine room monitoring the fill level to get it to the exact spot wanted. No more banging on the fuel tank and hoping the other person can hear. They look a little funny. I totally don't care. I consider them one of the most important safety devices that we have onboard - mostly because they get a lot of use. We have two pair (just in case one stops working). You have to be careful though because there are different channels that pairs are configured for and getting a second pair means making sure they're on the same channel as your other set (you have to work with the dealer or just have some luck). The biggest problem with them is that the On/Off switch can get turned on by accident easily when moving them around. We had it happen a few times with dead battery results (9V standard battery). We now put a little piece of blue 3M tape over the switch and it hasn't been a problem since. We've been using the same pair for 5 years. The other pair have batteries and are tested but are still in the box. We've been testing a variety of Bluetooth headset devices on our boat. Some are starting to come out with intercoms built-in. The Dragon V2 CallPod is a good example: http://www.callpod.com/products/dragon There's a nice advantage to them. Push one button and you're answering the phone tucked away at the helm (on the amp). Press another and you're talking to your partner. That's the idea. The products aren't really "done" yet though. They need more time in the oven... ==================================== Jeffrey Siegel M/V aCappella DeFever 53RPH W1ACA/WDB4350 Castine, Maine www.activecaptain.com The Interactive Cruising Guidebook ..
GP
Gale Plummer
Wed, Apr 8, 2009 5:59 PM

We have used the Eartec and currently use the Dragon V2.  Discovered the
Eartec units don't float and the cord tends to get caught on hand rails etc.
The Dragon VS up-side includes:
Compact-no cords
Duplex
No
interferance from local radio, VHF etc.
Long battery life and rechargeable
Can also be used with cell phone but not required
Stays connected at
150-200 feet (Useful at the fuel dock etc)
Down side includes:
Pairing is
not intuitive
Needs to be shielded from wind by hood/parka

Very
pleased with the Eartec for years but the Dragon is better for us.  The
safety benefit of  being in contact with the spouse on deck is top of the
list.  Recently my wife was injured while leaving a very rough dock.  She will
be fine but  the injury would have been much worse if she had not alerted me
to the problem via the Dragon system.  Its a long story but we will not leave
or enter a dock without a headset of some type if at all possible.....

WORKNOT
GB46#105
Lying San Franciso Bay

----- Original Message ----
From: Jeffrey Siegel jeff@activecaptain.com
To: Trawlers-and-Trawlering
trawlers-and-trawlering@lists.samurai.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 8, 2009
5:31:40 AM
Subject: Re: T&T: Wireless Headsets for docking

We've been
testing a variety of Bluetooth headset devices on our boat.  Some are starting
to come out with intercoms built-in.  The Dragon V2 CallPod is a good example:
http://www.callpod.com/products/dragon

There's a nice advantage to them.
Push one button and you're answering the phone tucked away at the helm (on the
amp).  Press another and you're talking to your partner.  That's the idea.
The products aren't really "done" yet though.  They need more time in the
oven...

---===
Jeffrey Siegel
M/V aCappella
DeFever 53RPH
W1ACA/WDB4350
Castine, Maine

www.activecaptain.com
The
Interactive Cruising Guidebook

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We have used the Eartec and currently use the Dragon V2. Discovered the Eartec units don't float and the cord tends to get caught on hand rails etc. The Dragon VS up-side includes: Compact-no cords Duplex No interferance from local radio, VHF etc. Long battery life and rechargeable Can also be used with cell phone but not required Stays connected at 150-200 feet (Useful at the fuel dock etc) Down side includes: Pairing is not intuitive Needs to be shielded from wind by hood/parka Very pleased with the Eartec for years but the Dragon is better for us. The safety benefit of being in contact with the spouse on deck is top of the list. Recently my wife was injured while leaving a very rough dock. She will be fine but the injury would have been much worse if she had not alerted me to the problem via the Dragon system. Its a long story but we will not leave or enter a dock without a headset of some type if at all possible..... WORKNOT GB46#105 Lying San Franciso Bay ----- Original Message ---- From: Jeffrey Siegel <jeff@activecaptain.com> To: Trawlers-and-Trawlering <trawlers-and-trawlering@lists.samurai.com> Sent: Wednesday, April 8, 2009 5:31:40 AM Subject: Re: T&T: Wireless Headsets for docking We've been testing a variety of Bluetooth headset devices on our boat. Some are starting to come out with intercoms built-in. The Dragon V2 CallPod is a good example: http://www.callpod.com/products/dragon There's a nice advantage to them. Push one button and you're answering the phone tucked away at the helm (on the amp). Press another and you're talking to your partner. That's the idea. The products aren't really "done" yet though. They need more time in the oven... ==================================== Jeffrey Siegel M/V aCappella DeFever 53RPH W1ACA/WDB4350 Castine, Maine www.activecaptain.com The Interactive Cruising Guidebook .. _______________________________________________ http://lists.samurai.com/mailman/listinfo/trawlers-and-trawlering To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options (get password, change email address, etc) go to: http://lists.samurai.com/mailman/options/trawlers-and-trawlering Trawlers & Trawlering and T&T are trademarks of Water World Productions. Unauthorized use is prohibited.
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Jean & Michael
Wed, Apr 8, 2009 6:59 PM

I did a Google search for the Dragon V2 and it appears they do require a
cell phone for blue tooth. Am I missing something?

Michael Wilkie
Dancin' Dolphin II
Willow Berm Marina, Cal.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gale Plummer" vacogen@mv-worknot.com
To: "TrawlerWorld" trawlers-and-trawlering@lists.samurai.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2009 10:59 AM
Subject: Re: T&T: Wireless Headsets for docking

We have used the Eartec and currently use the Dragon V2.  Discovered the
Eartec units don't float and the cord tends to get caught on hand rails
etc.
The Dragon VS up-side includes:
Compact-no cords
Duplex
No
interferance from local radio, VHF etc.
Long battery life and rechargeable
Can also be used with cell phone but not required

I did a Google search for the Dragon V2 and it appears they do require a cell phone for blue tooth. Am I missing something? Michael Wilkie Dancin' Dolphin II Willow Berm Marina, Cal. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gale Plummer" <vacogen@mv-worknot.com> To: "TrawlerWorld" <trawlers-and-trawlering@lists.samurai.com> Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2009 10:59 AM Subject: Re: T&T: Wireless Headsets for docking > We have used the Eartec and currently use the Dragon V2. Discovered the > Eartec units don't float and the cord tends to get caught on hand rails > etc. > The Dragon VS up-side includes: > Compact-no cords > Duplex > No > interferance from local radio, VHF etc. > Long battery life and rechargeable > Can also be used with cell phone but not required
GP
Gale Plummer
Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:21 PM

The two way communications link is Dragon to Dragon no phone required.
----- Original Message ----
From: Jean & Michael jdmw@sbcglobal.net
To: Gale
Plummer vacogen@mv-worknot.com; TrawlerWorld
trawlers-and-trawlering@lists.samurai.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 8, 2009
11:59:35 AM
Subject: Re: T&T: Wireless Headsets for docking

I did a Google
search for the Dragon V2 and it appears they do require a cell phone for blue
tooth. Am I missing something?

Michael Wilkie
Dancin' Dolphin II
Willow Berm
Marina, Cal.

----- Original Message ----- From: "Gale Plummer"
vacogen@mv-worknot.com
To: "TrawlerWorld"
trawlers-and-trawlering@lists.samurai.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2009
10:59 AM
Subject: Re: T&T: Wireless Headsets for docking

We have used the

Eartec and currently use the Dragon V2.  Discovered the

Eartec units don't

float and the cord tends to get caught on hand rails etc.

The Dragon VS

up-side includes:

Compact-no cords
Duplex
No

interferance

from local radio, VHF etc.

Long battery life and rechargeable
Can

also be used with cell phone but not required

The two way communications link is Dragon to Dragon no phone required. ----- Original Message ---- From: Jean & Michael <jdmw@sbcglobal.net> To: Gale Plummer <vacogen@mv-worknot.com>; TrawlerWorld <trawlers-and-trawlering@lists.samurai.com> Sent: Wednesday, April 8, 2009 11:59:35 AM Subject: Re: T&T: Wireless Headsets for docking I did a Google search for the Dragon V2 and it appears they do require a cell phone for blue tooth. Am I missing something? Michael Wilkie Dancin' Dolphin II Willow Berm Marina, Cal. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gale Plummer" <vacogen@mv-worknot.com> To: "TrawlerWorld" <trawlers-and-trawlering@lists.samurai.com> Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2009 10:59 AM Subject: Re: T&T: Wireless Headsets for docking > We have used the Eartec and currently use the Dragon V2. Discovered the > Eartec units don't float and the cord tends to get caught on hand rails etc. > The Dragon VS up-side includes: > Compact-no cords > Duplex > No > interferance from local radio, VHF etc. > Long battery life and rechargeable > Can also be used with cell phone but not required
JS
Jeffrey Siegel
Wed, Apr 8, 2009 7:38 PM

I did a Google search for the Dragon V2 and it appears they do
require a cell phone for blue tooth. Am I missing something?

The Dragon V2 is an interesting product.  It will work with most
mobile phones as a remote headset allowing you to answer, initiate
calls, and talk on the remote phone.  The interesting thing that they
did was also allow multiple Dragon's to be used together like an
intercom.  In that mode, you don't need a mobile phone - they'll pair
and work together without any mobile phone involved at all.

I'd strongly suggest reading our article about Bluetooth headsets and
making sure you can return the Dragon V2 if you don't like it:
http://www.activecaptain.com/GM/MobilePhones/BluetoothHeadsets.php

-or-

http://tinyurl.com/can7ab

We found it totally unacceptable as an intercom based on 5 years of
using other intercoms.  CallPod literally gave us the units.  We were
so underwhelmed by them that we paid to return them and asked that
they notify us when there was a new model.  They tested our returned
units and found that they were working to their specification.

We were just informed by CallPod that there is a new model close to
being released.  They say it works better although it has less range.
The V2 supposedly worked as an intercom with as much as 300 feet of
separation (Class 1 Bluetooth).  If they switch to  Class 2 Bluetooth,
the range will only be 30 feet and really not enough for boating use
(in my opinion).  I suspect they're doing something in-between to
allow better quality with more than 30 feet of separation.  I'd be
really happy to see it work and plan on testing it as soon as there is
a set available.

---===
Jeffrey Siegel
M/V aCappella
DeFever 53RPH
W1ACA/WDB4350
Castine, Maine

www.activecaptain.com
The Interactive Cruising Guidebook

..

> I did a Google search for the Dragon V2 and it appears they do > require a cell phone for blue tooth. Am I missing something? The Dragon V2 is an interesting product. It will work with most mobile phones as a remote headset allowing you to answer, initiate calls, and talk on the remote phone. The interesting thing that they did was also allow multiple Dragon's to be used together like an intercom. In that mode, you don't need a mobile phone - they'll pair and work together without any mobile phone involved at all. I'd strongly suggest reading our article about Bluetooth headsets and making sure you can return the Dragon V2 if you don't like it: http://www.activecaptain.com/GM/MobilePhones/BluetoothHeadsets.php -or- http://tinyurl.com/can7ab We found it totally unacceptable as an intercom based on 5 years of using other intercoms. CallPod literally gave us the units. We were so underwhelmed by them that we paid to return them and asked that they notify us when there was a new model. They tested our returned units and found that they were working to their specification. We were just informed by CallPod that there is a new model close to being released. They say it works better although it has less range. The V2 supposedly worked as an intercom with as much as 300 feet of separation (Class 1 Bluetooth). If they switch to Class 2 Bluetooth, the range will only be 30 feet and really not enough for boating use (in my opinion). I suspect they're doing something in-between to allow better quality with more than 30 feet of separation. I'd be really happy to see it work and plan on testing it as soon as there is a set available. ==================================== Jeffrey Siegel M/V aCappella DeFever 53RPH W1ACA/WDB4350 Castine, Maine www.activecaptain.com The Interactive Cruising Guidebook ..