While understand all this chatter about complying with government regulations , I often wonder if anyone has told the local populations--the fish, especially-- about those rules. Seems to me that they may be placing waste directly into the waters every day, possibly especially in the A.M.--365 days a year Those activists who seem so bent on regulating to the point of discomfort oughta get a life. As to the Cuyahoga River catching fire, it was NOT from people poo BUT from industrial discharge. ANYONE who is truly familiar with the Cuyahoga knows that the industries which bounded it were steel mills and oil refineries and Alcoa Aluminum and freighters and ore carriers and whole buncha other smaller companies. Those were the polluters just like you may have upon the shores of Lake Champlain. Plus some farmers and grass growers who fertilize their lawns. Odd thing about the Cuyahoga was that it was so bad that few boaters used it at all. Certainly within the confines of a marina especially, dumping is positively yuchy, not unlike the rule which told railroad passengers to "not flush" while in the station--that made sense and the little that fell upon the rails was of small consequence--but?I wonder why the same kinda rule would not make sense here. Dump whilst underway BUT NOT in the marina.Large passenger vessels and ocean going vessels would be the exception. IMHO, it would make no appreciable difference to the ecology if dumping underway were given the OK In any event, I have spoken. John S/V Second Love ________________________________________________________________________ More new features than ever. Check out the new AOL Mail ! - http://webmail.aol.com

I have also wondered about how infinitesimal the discharge of sewage of a few private vessels while underway would be compared to the amount created by the fish, turtles, birds, plus various farm animals from neighboring pasture lands. However, emptying a holding tank (no matter where) would create a far greater concentration of pollutants than would a direct flush overboard! Roger on the dumping or flushing within the frequently still waters of a marina! Especially considering people fish and even swim from their docks/slips. ** D C "Mac" Macdonald ** * m/v Another Adventure * ** '95 Carver 355 ACMY ** * Grand Lake - Oklahoma * ** USPS & AGLCA (#217) ** ________________________________________________________________ ---- Original message (a bit snipped) ---- To: great-loop@lists.samurai.com Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 12:27:40 -0500 From: handy97885@aol.com Subject: GL: y valves While I understand all this chatter about complying with government regulations > SNIPPAGE < As to the Cuyahoga River catching fire, it was NOT from people poo BUT from industrial discharge. > SNIPPAGE < Plus some farmers and grass growers who fertilize their lawns. Odd thing about the Cuyahoga was that it was so bad that few boaters used it at all. Certainly within the confines of a marina especially, dumping is positively yuchy, not unlike the rule which told railroad passengers to "not flush" while in the station-- that made sense and the little that fell upon the rails was of small consequence-- but I wonder why the same kinda rule would not make sense here. Dump whilst underway BUT NOT in the marina.Large passenger vessels and ocean going vessels would be the exception. IMHO, it would make no appreciable difference to the ecology if dumping underway were given the OK. In any event, I have spoken. John S/V Second Love