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PRS-10 heatsink design

JW
James Wilson
Wed, Jun 23, 2021 5:44 AM

My limited experience with the factory heatsink for the PRS-10 has left me pretty unsatisfied. It seems ok for brief bench evaluation but not for permanent enclosure installation. Reported unit temps are in the 70 - 75 °C range with it sitting on a bench in a 25 °C room. It needs to be turned on its side or upside down for any convection to take heat away, or for fans to be directed at the fins. There are no side or top screw holes on the PRS-10 so you can’t mount it in that orientation. Has anyone found or built a better heatsink that can use active cooling?

My limited experience with the factory heatsink for the PRS-10 has left me pretty unsatisfied. It seems ok for brief bench evaluation but not for permanent enclosure installation. Reported unit temps are in the 70 - 75 °C range with it sitting on a bench in a 25 °C room. It needs to be turned on its side or upside down for any convection to take heat away, or for fans to be directed at the fins. There are no side or top screw holes on the PRS-10 so you can’t mount it in that orientation. Has anyone found or built a better heatsink that can use active cooling?
DW
Dana Whitlow
Wed, Jun 23, 2021 11:00 AM

I mount my PRS-10 vertically (so that the channels between the fins are
vertical),
with the connector on top.  This orientation was chosen simply for best
access to
the connector, but yields heat sink temperatures down around 45C to 50C.
The
unit is open and fully exposed to the air.  I run it at 24Vdc.

The open mounting is obviously best for natural convective cooling, but does
leave the stability somewhat vulnerable to ambient temperature variations,
drafts, etc, although I've not had obvious problems with this.

If you want to combine good cooling with low dependence on rapid variations
in ambient temperature, I suspect the best way is to interpose a very thick
aluminum (or copper) block between the heatsink flange of the PRS-10 and
the heatsink.  The block will add minimal thermal resistance, but will
serve as
a thermal lowpass filter.  The downside to this is that full warmup of the
PRS-10
will take longer.

Dana

On Wed, Jun 23, 2021 at 2:05 AM James Wilson jmw@fastmail.com wrote:

My limited experience with the factory heatsink for the PRS-10 has left me
pretty unsatisfied. It seems ok for brief bench evaluation but not for
permanent enclosure installation. Reported unit temps are in the 70 - 75 °C
range with it sitting on a bench in a 25 °C room. It needs to be turned on
its side or upside down for any convection to take heat away, or for fans
to be directed at the fins. There are no side or top screw holes on the
PRS-10 so you can’t mount it in that orientation. Has anyone found or built
a better heatsink that can use active cooling?


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I mount my PRS-10 vertically (so that the channels between the fins are vertical), with the connector on top. This orientation was chosen simply for best access to the connector, but yields heat sink temperatures down around 45C to 50C. The unit is open and fully exposed to the air. I run it at 24Vdc. The open mounting is obviously best for natural convective cooling, but does leave the stability somewhat vulnerable to ambient temperature variations, drafts, etc, although I've not had obvious problems with this. If you want to combine good cooling with low dependence on rapid variations in ambient temperature, I suspect the best way is to interpose a very thick aluminum (or copper) block between the heatsink flange of the PRS-10 and the heatsink. The block will add minimal thermal resistance, but will serve as a thermal lowpass filter. The downside to this is that full warmup of the PRS-10 will take longer. Dana On Wed, Jun 23, 2021 at 2:05 AM James Wilson <jmw@fastmail.com> wrote: > My limited experience with the factory heatsink for the PRS-10 has left me > pretty unsatisfied. It seems ok for brief bench evaluation but not for > permanent enclosure installation. Reported unit temps are in the 70 - 75 °C > range with it sitting on a bench in a 25 °C room. It needs to be turned on > its side or upside down for any convection to take heat away, or for fans > to be directed at the fins. There are no side or top screw holes on the > PRS-10 so you can’t mount it in that orientation. Has anyone found or built > a better heatsink that can use active cooling? > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com -- To unsubscribe send > an email to time-nuts-leave@lists.febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to and follow the instructions there.
BK
Bob kb8tq
Wed, Jun 23, 2021 12:35 PM

Hi

All of these small “telecom” Rb’s suffer the same way. The form factor is similar
and they all dump a lot of heat out the baseplate. None of them do well with a
“down facing” simple heatsink

“Simple” answers:

  1. Use a fan / forced air. That’s how they typically where used in most (but not
    all …) telecom gear.

  2. Go off to any of the many online heatsink outfits and buy a chunk of extrusion
    better suited to the task. Even with 30 mm fins, down facing isn’t great.

  3. Flip the unit so the fins face up

Best is still going be fins that are up/down in the vertical plane (if that makes
any sense at all …) and get good airflow from bottom to top.

If you go with a fan, be careful to isolate it a bit. Rb’s do have vibration sensitivity.
One plus with a fan is that you can servo it to maintain accurate temperature.

Bob

On Jun 23, 2021, at 7:00 AM, Dana Whitlow k8yumdoober@gmail.com wrote:

I mount my PRS-10 vertically (so that the channels between the fins are
vertical),
with the connector on top.  This orientation was chosen simply for best
access to
the connector, but yields heat sink temperatures down around 45C to 50C.
The
unit is open and fully exposed to the air.  I run it at 24Vdc.

The open mounting is obviously best for natural convective cooling, but does
leave the stability somewhat vulnerable to ambient temperature variations,
drafts, etc, although I've not had obvious problems with this.

If you want to combine good cooling with low dependence on rapid variations
in ambient temperature, I suspect the best way is to interpose a very thick
aluminum (or copper) block between the heatsink flange of the PRS-10 and
the heatsink.  The block will add minimal thermal resistance, but will
serve as
a thermal lowpass filter.  The downside to this is that full warmup of the
PRS-10
will take longer.

Dana

On Wed, Jun 23, 2021 at 2:05 AM James Wilson jmw@fastmail.com wrote:

My limited experience with the factory heatsink for the PRS-10 has left me
pretty unsatisfied. It seems ok for brief bench evaluation but not for
permanent enclosure installation. Reported unit temps are in the 70 - 75 °C
range with it sitting on a bench in a 25 °C room. It needs to be turned on
its side or upside down for any convection to take heat away, or for fans
to be directed at the fins. There are no side or top screw holes on the
PRS-10 so you can’t mount it in that orientation. Has anyone found or built
a better heatsink that can use active cooling?


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Hi All of these small “telecom” Rb’s suffer the same way. The form factor is similar and they all dump a lot of heat out the baseplate. None of them do well with a “down facing” simple heatsink “Simple” answers: 1) Use a fan / forced air. That’s how they typically where used in most (but not all …) telecom gear. 2) Go off to any of the many online heatsink outfits and buy a chunk of extrusion better suited to the task. Even with 30 mm fins, down facing isn’t great. 3) Flip the unit so the fins face up Best is still going be fins that are up/down in the vertical plane (if that makes any sense at all …) and get good airflow from bottom to top. If you go with a fan, be careful to isolate it a bit. Rb’s do have vibration sensitivity. One plus with a fan is that you can servo it to maintain accurate temperature. Bob > On Jun 23, 2021, at 7:00 AM, Dana Whitlow <k8yumdoober@gmail.com> wrote: > > I mount my PRS-10 vertically (so that the channels between the fins are > vertical), > with the connector on top. This orientation was chosen simply for best > access to > the connector, but yields heat sink temperatures down around 45C to 50C. > The > unit is open and fully exposed to the air. I run it at 24Vdc. > > The open mounting is obviously best for natural convective cooling, but does > leave the stability somewhat vulnerable to ambient temperature variations, > drafts, etc, although I've not had obvious problems with this. > > If you want to combine good cooling with low dependence on rapid variations > in ambient temperature, I suspect the best way is to interpose a very thick > aluminum (or copper) block between the heatsink flange of the PRS-10 and > the heatsink. The block will add minimal thermal resistance, but will > serve as > a thermal lowpass filter. The downside to this is that full warmup of the > PRS-10 > will take longer. > > Dana > > > On Wed, Jun 23, 2021 at 2:05 AM James Wilson <jmw@fastmail.com> wrote: > >> My limited experience with the factory heatsink for the PRS-10 has left me >> pretty unsatisfied. It seems ok for brief bench evaluation but not for >> permanent enclosure installation. Reported unit temps are in the 70 - 75 °C >> range with it sitting on a bench in a 25 °C room. It needs to be turned on >> its side or upside down for any convection to take heat away, or for fans >> to be directed at the fins. There are no side or top screw holes on the >> PRS-10 so you can’t mount it in that orientation. Has anyone found or built >> a better heatsink that can use active cooling? >> _______________________________________________ >> time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com -- To unsubscribe send >> an email to time-nuts-leave@lists.febo.com >> To unsubscribe, go to and follow the instructions there. > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com -- To unsubscribe send an email to time-nuts-leave@lists.febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to and follow the instructions there.