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Coastal Explorer Support for TerraServer

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trawlergil@comcast.net
Sun, Oct 30, 2005 12:40 PM

Dave, the TerraServer support for Coastal Explorer is a great feature, as Ron has pointed out.  One thing not documented is can you use the terraserver tiles view while on-line later when your on the water and off-line.  The TerraServer-USA tiles are stored in "C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\Rose Point Navigation Systems\TerraTiles" and can be copied from one computer to another.  The helpful folks at Rose Point say, "we might add a feature to Coastal Explorer that will copy them for you, but not until after 1.1 ships...".

I hope this helps,

Gil
Usual disclaimers of a satisified customer.

Ron,
You mentioned use of Terraserver images in Coastal Explorer, but I find
nothing in the help menu to provide guidance.  How do you connect to these
photos?
Dave Steele

Coastal Explorer has a feature where you can automatically overlay your
chart with images from Terraserver with an Internet connection. You can
control the transparency of the photos so that you can still see buoys,
etc.
This feature can serve to enhance chart detail. Happy user.

Ron Rogers

Dave, the TerraServer support for Coastal Explorer is a great feature, as Ron has pointed out. One thing not documented is can you use the terraserver tiles view while on-line later when your on the water and off-line. The TerraServer-USA tiles are stored in "C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\Rose Point Navigation Systems\TerraTiles" and can be copied from one computer to another. The helpful folks at Rose Point say, "we might add a feature to Coastal Explorer that will copy them for you, but not until after 1.1 ships...". I hope this helps, Gil Usual disclaimers of a satisified customer. --------------- Ron, You mentioned use of Terraserver images in Coastal Explorer, but I find nothing in the help menu to provide guidance. How do you connect to these photos? Dave Steele ---------------------- Coastal Explorer has a feature where you can automatically overlay your chart with images from Terraserver with an Internet connection. You can control the transparency of the photos so that you can still see buoys, etc. This feature can serve to enhance chart detail. Happy user. Ron Rogers
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Ron Rogers
Sun, Oct 30, 2005 3:31 PM

Using 1.1.52, I disconnected from the Internet and brought up CE. Then I
went to a route on which I had called-up TerraServer. The photo database
came up - suggesting that it remains in a cache. On the subject of
TerraServer vs. Google Maps, I like the uniform intensity and consistency of
TerraServer. Google Maps have different levels of detail and contrast. Where
I am, in New Bern, NC my marina, South of New Bern proper, Google displays
my marina in fine detail. On the other hand, the city of New Bern is blurred
and has higher contrast - you can see them both at the same time. I suspect
that part of Google's photo database is purposely degraded, otherwise, why
would the satellite take different resolution "photos" of contiguous areas?

This may be a cold war holdover. The ability to fade the photo intensity in
and out is a fantastic feature. Don't know if it's unique. Now, if they just
had a friendly "Goto" function, all would be weller.

Ron Rogers
User

----- Original Message -----
From: trawlergil@comcast.net

| Dave, the TerraServer support for Coastal Explorer is a great feature, as
Ron has pointed out.  One thing not documented is can you use the
terraserver tiles view while on-
| line later when your on the water and off-line.  The TerraServer-USA tiles
are stored in "C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\Rose
Point Navigation
| Systems\TerraTiles" and can be copied from one computer to another.  The
helpful folks at Rose Point say, "we might add a feature to Coastal Explorer
that will copy them for
| you, but not until after 1.1 ships...".

Using 1.1.52, I disconnected from the Internet and brought up CE. Then I went to a route on which I had called-up TerraServer. The photo database came up - suggesting that it remains in a cache. On the subject of TerraServer vs. Google Maps, I like the uniform intensity and consistency of TerraServer. Google Maps have different levels of detail and contrast. Where I am, in New Bern, NC my marina, South of New Bern proper, Google displays my marina in fine detail. On the other hand, the city of New Bern is blurred and has higher contrast - you can see them both at the same time. I suspect that part of Google's photo database is purposely degraded, otherwise, why would the satellite take different resolution "photos" of contiguous areas? This may be a cold war holdover. The ability to fade the photo intensity in and out is a fantastic feature. Don't know if it's unique. Now, if they just had a friendly "Goto" function, all would be weller. Ron Rogers User ----- Original Message ----- From: <trawlergil@comcast.net> | Dave, the TerraServer support for Coastal Explorer is a great feature, as Ron has pointed out. One thing not documented is can you use the terraserver tiles view while on- | line later when your on the water and off-line. The TerraServer-USA tiles are stored in "C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\Rose Point Navigation | Systems\TerraTiles" and can be copied from one computer to another. The helpful folks at Rose Point say, "we might add a feature to Coastal Explorer that will copy them for | you, but not until after 1.1 ships...".
DS
Dave Steele
Sun, Oct 30, 2005 5:40 PM

Actually, Google Map has a variety of different photo dates, which can be
seen in one of their tools.  Some areas have very high quality photos with
about 3 foot pixel quality and other areas have photos with lesser quality,
like 10', 20', and 30' pixel size.  It all depends upon when and what
quality the photo was acquired.  At least these tend to be newer than the
TerraServer photos.  In my area in Washington State, many of the photos are
10-15 years old, as the photo of my neighborhood (13 years old) is all
forest.

I have yet to do more experimentation with the cache, but did find the
original direction from Ron to get me on-line with the photos and topo maps,
which are probably just as important to me.  The topo maps are older than
the photos, but something that I have enjoyed using in the past.

Dave Steele

-----Original Message-----
From: Ron Rogers [mailto:rcrogers6@kennett.net]
Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2005 7:31 AM
To: davesteele@comcast.net; Trawlers & Trawlering; Jim Wright
Subject: Re: Coastal Explorer Support for TerraServer

Using 1.1.52, I disconnected from the Internet and brought up CE. Then I
went to a route on which I had called-up TerraServer. The photo database
came up - suggesting that it remains in a cache. On the subject of
TerraServer vs. Google Maps, I like the uniform intensity and consistency
of
TerraServer. Google Maps have different levels of detail and contrast.
Where
I am, in New Bern, NC my marina, South of New Bern proper, Google displays
my marina in fine detail. On the other hand, the city of New Bern is
blurred
and has higher contrast - you can see them both at the same time. I
suspect
that part of Google's photo database is purposely degraded, otherwise, why
would the satellite take different resolution "photos" of contiguous
areas?

This may be a cold war holdover. The ability to fade the photo intensity
in
and out is a fantastic feature. Don't know if it's unique. Now, if they
just
had a friendly "Goto" function, all would be weller.

Ron Rogers
User

----- Original Message -----
From: trawlergil@comcast.net

| Dave, the TerraServer support for Coastal Explorer is a great feature,
as
Ron has pointed out.  One thing not documented is can you use the
terraserver tiles view while on-
| line later when your on the water and off-line.  The TerraServer-USA
tiles
are stored in "C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\Rose
Point Navigation
| Systems\TerraTiles" and can be copied from one computer to another.  The
helpful folks at Rose Point say, "we might add a feature to Coastal
Explorer
that will copy them for
| you, but not until after 1.1 ships...".

Actually, Google Map has a variety of different photo dates, which can be seen in one of their tools. Some areas have very high quality photos with about 3 foot pixel quality and other areas have photos with lesser quality, like 10', 20', and 30' pixel size. It all depends upon when and what quality the photo was acquired. At least these tend to be newer than the TerraServer photos. In my area in Washington State, many of the photos are 10-15 years old, as the photo of my neighborhood (13 years old) is all forest. I have yet to do more experimentation with the cache, but did find the original direction from Ron to get me on-line with the photos and topo maps, which are probably just as important to me. The topo maps are older than the photos, but something that I have enjoyed using in the past. Dave Steele > -----Original Message----- > From: Ron Rogers [mailto:rcrogers6@kennett.net] > Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2005 7:31 AM > To: davesteele@comcast.net; Trawlers & Trawlering; Jim Wright > Subject: Re: Coastal Explorer Support for TerraServer > > Using 1.1.52, I disconnected from the Internet and brought up CE. Then I > went to a route on which I had called-up TerraServer. The photo database > came up - suggesting that it remains in a cache. On the subject of > TerraServer vs. Google Maps, I like the uniform intensity and consistency > of > TerraServer. Google Maps have different levels of detail and contrast. > Where > I am, in New Bern, NC my marina, South of New Bern proper, Google displays > my marina in fine detail. On the other hand, the city of New Bern is > blurred > and has higher contrast - you can see them both at the same time. I > suspect > that part of Google's photo database is purposely degraded, otherwise, why > would the satellite take different resolution "photos" of contiguous > areas? > > This may be a cold war holdover. The ability to fade the photo intensity > in > and out is a fantastic feature. Don't know if it's unique. Now, if they > just > had a friendly "Goto" function, all would be weller. > > Ron Rogers > User > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <trawlergil@comcast.net> > > > | Dave, the TerraServer support for Coastal Explorer is a great feature, > as > Ron has pointed out. One thing not documented is can you use the > terraserver tiles view while on- > | line later when your on the water and off-line. The TerraServer-USA > tiles > are stored in "C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\Rose > Point Navigation > | Systems\TerraTiles" and can be copied from one computer to another. The > helpful folks at Rose Point say, "we might add a feature to Coastal > Explorer > that will copy them for > | you, but not until after 1.1 ships...".