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Re: Satellite TV onboard (mobile/stationary)

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-----Original Message-----
From: Paul Kruse plkruse@iu.net
To: trawler-world-list@samurai.com trawler-world-list@samurai.com
Date: Sunday, April 11, 1999 7:27 AM
Subject: RE: Satellite TV onboard (mobile/stationary)

This thread has me a bit confused.  Are we talking about taking a basic home
dish unit and putting it onto a boat?  If so, it would seem that the system
would only work when you were solidly tied up to a dock in calm water.
After all, these home units need to be pointed directly at the satellite,
since they are not able to track one from a moving platform.

Or perhaps we are talking about a gimbal stabilized dish that is able to
track from a moving platform, like a boat at sea?  I know that these things
exist, because the salesmen have tried hard to sell them to me for use at
work. About five or six years ago, the Astronaut Office made noises that
they might like to have TV inside of the CTV.  That is the "Crew Transport
Vehicle," for you non-shuttle fans.  It is used to transport the crew from
the Shuttle Landing Facility (SLF), to where they take them for their post
flight medical checks.  It is sort of a mobile medical facility, about sixty
feet by about sixteen feet, and able to jack up and down to mate with the
Shuttle, an airplane, or the second floor office where they get off loaded
for their medical checks.  It takes up most of two lanes of the road, and
travels at about 45 mph under police escort; and is too high to fit under
many bridges and overpasses.  It has a 300 hp drive motor, and a 60 kW
generator which is often stretched to its limit; both two stroke DDC's.
This thing is essentially a highly customized RV, slightly larger than a
railroad box car.

(BTW, the CTV drive engine is a classic example of sizing an engine for its
duty cycle.  It is only good for about 1200 hours, since they run the piss
out of it when they have it on the road.  A larger engine would last much
longer.  It is also on its third engine in eight years.  Clearly, the people
who designed it did not expect it to be driving significant distances down
the road.  Rather, it was designed to shuttle passengers from an airliner to
the gate at an airport.  We could make this engine last longer by driving a
bit slower, but then speed is of the essence when delivering the astronauts
for their post light medical work.  Just as a  point of comparison, if this
engine was installed into the typical recreational trawler, I would expect
it to be a 20-30 thousand hour engine.  Yes, I know that I've digressed from
the subject of this thread, but I thought some folks might be interested in
it, and it does sort of relate to trawlers.)

At any rate, the Astronaut Office said that it would be very nice to get
NASA Select, which is NASA's very own cable channel, while waiting for the
shuttle to land.  I think that they also had a couple of other mission
related feeds that they were interested in getting.  They found someone who
sold these stabilized dishes for moving platforms, and sent him my way.  The
bottom line is that no one came up with the budget to buy it, so we did not
get it.  One of the things that I will like most about Doulos is that she
will not have a TV on her, except for certain video monitors that are
related to catching fish; but I was curious if anyone has used any of these
stabilized dishes.  If so, how well do they work?

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E-mail:  plkruse@iu.net    ::  Let not your heart be troubled,
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Go to my Chesapeake Bay Nautical Net web site and click on the "Link of the Week." Jim Weidner, K2JXW (Extra) CEO & President/Editor Weidner & Sons Publishing www.waterw.com/~weidner --------- Capt. m/v "Sandy Claws" Chesapeake & Delaware Bay Nautical News Net www.waterw.com/~weidner/boating.htm Ham Radio Marine Mobile Nautical Net www.waterw.com/~weidner/ham.htm -----Original Message----- From: Paul Kruse <plkruse@iu.net> To: trawler-world-list@samurai.com <trawler-world-list@samurai.com> Date: Sunday, April 11, 1999 7:27 AM Subject: RE: Satellite TV onboard (mobile/stationary) >This thread has me a bit confused. Are we talking about taking a basic home >dish unit and putting it onto a boat? If so, it would seem that the system >would only work when you were solidly tied up to a dock in calm water. >After all, these home units need to be pointed directly at the satellite, >since they are not able to track one from a moving platform. > >Or perhaps we are talking about a gimbal stabilized dish that is able to >track from a moving platform, like a boat at sea? I know that these things >exist, because the salesmen have tried hard to sell them to me for use at >work. About five or six years ago, the Astronaut Office made noises that >they might like to have TV inside of the CTV. That is the "Crew Transport >Vehicle," for you non-shuttle fans. It is used to transport the crew from >the Shuttle Landing Facility (SLF), to where they take them for their post >flight medical checks. It is sort of a mobile medical facility, about sixty >feet by about sixteen feet, and able to jack up and down to mate with the >Shuttle, an airplane, or the second floor office where they get off loaded >for their medical checks. It takes up most of two lanes of the road, and >travels at about 45 mph under police escort; and is too high to fit under >many bridges and overpasses. It has a 300 hp drive motor, and a 60 kW >generator which is often stretched to its limit; both two stroke DDC's. >This thing is essentially a highly customized RV, slightly larger than a >railroad box car. > >(BTW, the CTV drive engine is a classic example of sizing an engine for its >duty cycle. It is only good for about 1200 hours, since they run the piss >out of it when they have it on the road. A larger engine would last much >longer. It is also on its third engine in eight years. Clearly, the people >who designed it did not expect it to be driving significant distances down >the road. Rather, it was designed to shuttle passengers from an airliner to >the gate at an airport. We could make this engine last longer by driving a >bit slower, but then speed is of the essence when delivering the astronauts >for their post light medical work. Just as a point of comparison, if this >engine was installed into the typical recreational trawler, I would expect >it to be a 20-30 thousand hour engine. Yes, I know that I've digressed from >the subject of this thread, but I thought some folks might be interested in >it, and it does sort of relate to trawlers.) > >At any rate, the Astronaut Office said that it would be very nice to get >NASA Select, which is NASA's very own cable channel, while waiting for the >shuttle to land. I think that they also had a couple of other mission >related feeds that they were interested in getting. They found someone who >sold these stabilized dishes for moving platforms, and sent him my way. The >bottom line is that no one came up with the budget to buy it, so we did not >get it. One of the things that I will like most about Doulos is that she >will not have a TV on her, except for certain video monitors that are >related to catching fish; but I was curious if anyone has used any of these >stabilized dishes. If so, how well do they work? > > > >+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > :: >Paul and Cindy Kruse :: KJV Joh 14:27 Peace I leave with you, >165 South Kenneth Court :: my peace I give unto you: >Merritt Island, FL 32952 :: not as the world giveth, give I unto you. >E-mail: plkruse@iu.net :: Let not your heart be troubled, >407-453-6206 :: neither let it be afraid. > :: >+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > >