Could someone please recommend GPIB card
64 bit Windows 7 is the most restrictive OS I have seen so far in terms of
drivers. 32 bit is a bit more forgiving. I would guess that 32 bit
Windows
will be a bit of a dinosaur three to five years from now. Just as you are
still
running Win 98, that does not mean other versions will be dead and gone.
Only that a pretty cheap PC down at the big box store of your choice
likely
will not have a 32 bit OS on it. I think the restrictions in 64 bit Win 7
are the
ones you need to worry about for a "compatible with everything" long term
purchase.
64-bit Windows does require signed drivers, which was not the case with the
32-bit OSes. It works fine with both Prologix and NI hardware, but some of
the lesser-known NI clones may not have 64-bit drivers.
That said, The newer NI PCI cards do have drivers. The same is true of the
current production NI cards (all flavors). I'd bet it's true of the
current
production Prologix. Strictly speaking, the serial to GPIB boxes don't
need
drivers as much as they need software adapted to them. The same is true of
the ethernet to GPIB boxes. That software may be a bear to write, but it's
still easier than writing a driver that Windows will accept as valid.
One nice thing about Windows 7 is that you don't have to install any drivers
at all for the Prologix hardware. The FTDI chip in the USB adapters is
recognized right out of the box, and the Ethernet version doesn't need
specific drivers to begin with.
So at the moment I have both an isa card and NI network box in a mother
board running Win 98. All of it kind of nuts and messy. Also picked up a
circa 2002 NI lab. To be honest until now I really did not have a real
use
for it.
?????? I don't suppose timelab would run on win 98??
Unfortunately, no, it requires at least Windows 2000 (and I don't develop or
test under anything earlier than XP.) The newest build at
www.miles.io/timelab/readme.htm does have a native 64-bit Windows version,
though. :)
-- john
[]
64-bit Windows does require signed drivers, which was not the case with
the
32-bit OSes. It works fine with both Prologix and NI hardware, but
some of
the lesser-known NI clones may not have 64-bit drivers.
[]
-- john
Actually, there is a "test mode", where unsigned 64-bit drivers are
accepted. I have 64-bit NTP serial drivers working this way.
You can also run the XP emulation where, I believe, 32-bit drivers will
work (I got a USB WebCam working under XP-mode).
Cheers,
David
SatSignal software - quality software written to your requirements
Web: http://www.satsignal.eu
Email: david-taylor@blueyonder.co.uk
BTW, Win 7 "XP Emulation Mode" is a free download for Win 7 Pro, not available
for Win 7 Home Premium.
John
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Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Could someone please recommend GPIB card
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64-bit Windows does require signed drivers, which was not the case with
the
32-bit OSes. It works fine with both Prologix and NI hardware, but
some of
the lesser-known NI clones may not have 64-bit drivers.
[]
-- john
Actually, there is a "test mode", where unsigned 64-bit drivers are
accepted. I have 64-bit NTP serial drivers working this way.
You can also run the XP emulation where, I believe, 32-bit drivers will
work (I got a USB WebCam working under XP-mode).
Cheers,
David
SatSignal software - quality software written to your requirements
Web: http://www.satsignal.eu
Email: david-taylor@blueyonder.co.uk
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BTW, Win 7 "XP Emulation Mode" is a free download for Win 7 Pro, not
available
for Win 7 Home Premium.
John
Yes, so you could try one of the other virtual machines instead. Virtual
Box (free), VMware etc.
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/virtual-pc/support/virtual-pc-2007.aspx
(not sure what versions on Windows support this)
Cheers,
David
SatSignal software - quality software written to your requirements
Web: http://www.satsignal.eu
Email: david-taylor@blueyonder.co.uk
On my win7 pro 64 bit systems, there was nothing to download. It is
already in the OS.
Use windows explorer, right click on executable, select properties, then
comparability. Options go as far back as win95.
The feature never really seemed to be essential. The 32 bit emulator
always worked. It was 16 bit software that caused some headaches. For
that, I run dosbox.
Regarding 32 bit drivers, my recollection is the OS refuses to install
them.
On 10/10/2011 11:51 PM, David J Taylor wrote:
BTW, Win 7 "XP Emulation Mode" is a free download for Win 7 Pro, not
available
for Win 7 Home Premium.
John
Yes, so you could try one of the other virtual machines instead. Virtual
Box (free), VMware etc.
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/virtual-pc/support/virtual-pc-2007.aspx
(not sure what versions on Windows support this)
Cheers,
David
Thry are two different things - you're talking about the compatibity
mode built into the OS, but the other poster is talking about "Windows
XP mode" - which is basically a copy of XP running inside a Virtual PC
VM that's available as a download for the "business" variants of Win 7
(which are, not coincidentally, the ones that have XP downgrade rights
anyway).
@David Taylor
Virtual PC 2007 is XP and Vista, but it doesnt' support "XP Mode"
(unless you just create a VM and install XP into it).
OT: Did you ever work at a company called "Fieldtech Heathrow"? I may
know you...
On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 3:40 PM, gary lists@lazygranch.com wrote:
On my win7 pro 64 bit systems, there was nothing to download. It is already
in the OS.
Use windows explorer, right click on executable, select properties, then
comparability. Options go as far back as win95.
The feature never really seemed to be essential. The 32 bit emulator always
worked. It was 16 bit software that caused some headaches. For that, I run
dosbox.
Regarding 32 bit drivers, my recollection is the OS refuses to install them.
On 10/10/2011 11:51 PM, David J Taylor wrote:
BTW, Win 7 "XP Emulation Mode" is a free download for Win 7 Pro, not
available
for Win 7 Home Premium.
John
Yes, so you could try one of the other virtual machines instead. Virtual
Box (free), VMware etc.
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/virtual-pc/support/virtual-pc-2007.aspx
(not sure what versions on Windows support this)
Cheers,
David
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I didn't install it, but it looks like if you have win 7 pro 64 bit, it
is a free download. You need to use IE and instal a validation plugin.
Half a gig of a download!
Now I suspect a 32bit driver might work with the VM. I have an old
usb/serial that won't install in 64 bit windows, but I just replaced the
hardware. The VM needs to be allotted RAM. Kind of messy. However, this
is a good experiment, presuming I can uninstall this VM.
On 10/11/2011 12:51 AM, Peter Bell wrote:
Thry are two different things - you're talking about the compatibity
mode built into the OS, but the other poster is talking about "Windows
XP mode" - which is basically a copy of XP running inside a Virtual PC
VM that's available as a download for the "business" variants of Win 7
(which are, not coincidentally, the ones that have XP downgrade rights
anyway).
@David Taylor
Yeah, it's a bit of a pain - it's basically intended for people
running old XP apps that they don't want to (or can't) port to the
newer versions of Windows. The other thing to watch out for is that as
far as I'm aware all the hardware is emulated with a little hack to
allow USB passthough - so the only things you can run the drivers for
in the virtual machine are USB devices and not things like PCI cards.
On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 4:50 PM, gary lists@lazygranch.com wrote:
I didn't install it, but it looks like if you have win 7 pro 64 bit, it is a
free download. You need to use IE and instal a validation plugin. Half a gig
of a download!
Now I suspect a 32bit driver might work with the VM. I have an old
usb/serial that won't install in 64 bit windows, but I just replaced the
hardware. The VM needs to be allotted RAM. Kind of messy. However, this is a
good experiment, presuming I can uninstall this VM.
On 10/11/2011 12:51 AM, Peter Bell wrote:
Thry are two different things - you're talking about the compatibity
mode built into the OS, but the other poster is talking about "Windows
XP mode" - which is basically a copy of XP running inside a Virtual PC
VM that's available as a download for the "business" variants of Win 7
(which are, not coincidentally, the ones that have XP downgrade rights
anyway).
@David Taylor
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Hi
My experience with several VM's has been unrewarding in terms of drivers.
The driver lives on the main OS and may or may not pass through to the VM.
You seem to get a sub-set of the main OS devices in the VM...
Not a good thing for hardware hacking.
Bob
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Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2011 5:08 AM
To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Could someone please recommend GPIB card
Yeah, it's a bit of a pain - it's basically intended for people
running old XP apps that they don't want to (or can't) port to the
newer versions of Windows. The other thing to watch out for is that as
far as I'm aware all the hardware is emulated with a little hack to
allow USB passthough - so the only things you can run the drivers for
in the virtual machine are USB devices and not things like PCI cards.
On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 4:50 PM, gary lists@lazygranch.com wrote:
I didn't install it, but it looks like if you have win 7 pro 64 bit, it is
a
free download. You need to use IE and instal a validation plugin. Half a
gig
of a download!
Now I suspect a 32bit driver might work with the VM. I have an old
usb/serial that won't install in 64 bit windows, but I just replaced the
hardware. The VM needs to be allotted RAM. Kind of messy. However, this is
a
good experiment, presuming I can uninstall this VM.
On 10/11/2011 12:51 AM, Peter Bell wrote:
Thry are two different things - you're talking about the compatibity
mode built into the OS, but the other poster is talking about "Windows
XP mode" - which is basically a copy of XP running inside a Virtual PC
VM that's available as a download for the "business" variants of Win 7
(which are, not coincidentally, the ones that have XP downgrade rights
anyway).
@David Taylor
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