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AC0XU (Jim)

Tue, Sep 24, 2024 12:31 AM

Does anyone have any documentation for the Vectron C6300 Eval Kit? I haven't been able to find anything...

More information on the unit:

Model MD-010-0005
ID # 23720212
OM FW Version FW
Test Software V2.0.5

It has "Ext Ref" and "1 PPS" jacks on the rear. Hooking up a 5071A 10 MHz to the "Ext Ref", the lock light eventually comes on.

By guess is that it is using the external reference to discipline an internal oscillator. I haven't measured the phase noise to see if the output is better than the input...

Thanks-
Jim

Does anyone have any documentation for the Vectron C6300 Eval Kit? I haven't been able to find anything... More information on the unit: Model MD-010-0005 ID # 23720212 OM FW Version FW Test Software V2.0.5 It has "Ext Ref" and "1 PPS" jacks on the rear. Hooking up a 5071A 10 MHz to the "Ext Ref", the lock light eventually comes on. By guess is that it is using the external reference to discipline an internal oscillator. I haven't measured the phase noise to see if the output is better than the input... Thanks- Jim

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Bob Camp

Tue, Sep 24, 2024 1:04 AM

Hi

Might look at:

https://datasheet.octopart.com/MD-0104-BXJ-DOCX-10M0000-Vectron-datasheet-10316008.pdf

and see if it looks similar to what you have.

If so, that’s a 20+ year old design.

Bob

On Sep 23, 2024, at 8:31 PM, AC0XU (Jim) via time-nuts time-nuts@lists.febo.com wrote:

Does anyone have any documentation for the Vectron C6300 Eval Kit? I haven't been able to find anything...

More information on the unit:

Model MD-010-0005
ID # 23720212
OM FW Version FW
Test Software V2.0.5

It has "Ext Ref" and "1 PPS" jacks on the rear. Hooking up a 5071A 10 MHz to the "Ext Ref", the lock light eventually comes on.

By guess is that it is using the external reference to discipline an internal oscillator. I haven't measured the phase noise to see if the output is better than the input...

Thanks-
Jim

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Hi Might look at: https://datasheet.octopart.com/MD-0104-BXJ-DOCX-10M0000-Vectron-datasheet-10316008.pdf and see if it looks similar to what you have. If so, that’s a 20+ year old design. Bob > On Sep 23, 2024, at 8:31 PM, AC0XU (Jim) via time-nuts <time-nuts@lists.febo.com> wrote: > > Does anyone have any documentation for the Vectron C6300 Eval Kit? I haven't been able to find anything... > > More information on the unit: > > Model MD-010-0005 > ID # 23720212 > OM FW Version FW > Test Software V2.0.5 > > It has "Ext Ref" and "1 PPS" jacks on the rear. Hooking up a 5071A 10 MHz to the "Ext Ref", the lock light eventually comes on. > > By guess is that it is using the external reference to discipline an internal oscillator. I haven't measured the phase noise to see if the output is better than the input... > > Thanks- > Jim > > > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com > To unsubscribe send an email to time-nuts-leave@lists.febo.com

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Magnus Danielson

Tue, Sep 24, 2024 7:52 PM

Hi,

One wonders if this could chew sawtooth corrections and also what PPS
time-stamping resolution it has.

Back when these where developed, many vendors was offering similar
products, some which you could assume was better made than others. Me
being obnoxious I kept doing these designs inhouse because what we where
doing was not fitting a standard scheme. We still do not match that,
even if I do a standard out of what we have done. Ah well, the other way
around. :)

With a better oscillator, this can be very useful.

Cheers,
Magnus

On 2024-09-24 03:04, Bob Camp via time-nuts wrote:

Hi

Might look at:

https://datasheet.octopart.com/MD-0104-BXJ-DOCX-10M0000-Vectron-datasheet-10316008.pdf

and see if it looks similar to what you have.

If so, that’s a 20+ year old design.

Bob

On Sep 23, 2024, at 8:31 PM, AC0XU (Jim) via time-nuts time-nuts@lists.febo.com wrote:

Does anyone have any documentation for the Vectron C6300 Eval Kit? I haven't been able to find anything...

More information on the unit:

Model MD-010-0005
ID # 23720212
OM FW Version FW
Test Software V2.0.5

It has "Ext Ref" and "1 PPS" jacks on the rear. Hooking up a 5071A 10 MHz to the "Ext Ref", the lock light eventually comes on.

By guess is that it is using the external reference to discipline an internal oscillator. I haven't measured the phase noise to see if the output is better than the input...

Thanks-
Jim

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Hi, One wonders if this could chew sawtooth corrections and also what PPS time-stamping resolution it has. Back when these where developed, many vendors was offering similar products, some which you could assume was better made than others. Me being obnoxious I kept doing these designs inhouse because what we where doing was not fitting a standard scheme. We still do not match that, even if I do a standard out of what we have done. Ah well, the other way around. :) With a better oscillator, this can be very useful. Cheers, Magnus On 2024-09-24 03:04, Bob Camp via time-nuts wrote: > Hi > > Might look at: > > https://datasheet.octopart.com/MD-0104-BXJ-DOCX-10M0000-Vectron-datasheet-10316008.pdf > > and see if it looks similar to what you have. > > If so, that’s a 20+ year old design. > > Bob > >> On Sep 23, 2024, at 8:31 PM, AC0XU (Jim) via time-nuts <time-nuts@lists.febo.com> wrote: >> >> Does anyone have any documentation for the Vectron C6300 Eval Kit? I haven't been able to find anything... >> >> More information on the unit: >> >> Model MD-010-0005 >> ID # 23720212 >> OM FW Version FW >> Test Software V2.0.5 >> >> It has "Ext Ref" and "1 PPS" jacks on the rear. Hooking up a 5071A 10 MHz to the "Ext Ref", the lock light eventually comes on. >> >> By guess is that it is using the external reference to discipline an internal oscillator. I haven't measured the phase noise to see if the output is better than the input... >> >> Thanks- >> Jim >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com >> To unsubscribe send an email to time-nuts-leave@lists.febo.com > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com > To unsubscribe send an email to time-nuts-leave@lists.febo.com

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Bob Camp

Tue, Sep 24, 2024 8:16 PM

Hi

(see below)

On Sep 24, 2024, at 3:52 PM, Magnus Danielson via time-nuts time-nuts@lists.febo.com wrote:

Hi,

One wonders if this could chew sawtooth corrections

Nope, this came out well before that “era”.

and also what PPS time-stamping resolution it has.

It depends a bit on which rev of the hardware / firmware it is. 10’s of ns on the counter and a basic analog approximation past that. The design dates to just past “the turn of the century”. The grubby details are going to be very hard to dig up.

Bob

Back when these where developed, many vendors was offering similar products, some which you could assume was better made than others. Me being obnoxious I kept doing these designs inhouse because what we where doing was not fitting a standard scheme. We still do not match that, even if I do a standard out of what we have done. Ah well, the other way around. :)

With a better oscillator, this can be very useful.

Cheers,
Magnus

On 2024-09-24 03:04, Bob Camp via time-nuts wrote:

Hi

Might look at:

https://datasheet.octopart.com/MD-0104-BXJ-DOCX-10M0000-Vectron-datasheet-10316008.pdf

and see if it looks similar to what you have.

If so, that’s a 20+ year old design.

Bob

On Sep 23, 2024, at 8:31 PM, AC0XU (Jim) via time-nuts time-nuts@lists.febo.com wrote:

Does anyone have any documentation for the Vectron C6300 Eval Kit? I haven't been able to find anything...

More information on the unit:

Model MD-010-0005
ID # 23720212
OM FW Version FW
Test Software V2.0.5

It has "Ext Ref" and "1 PPS" jacks on the rear. Hooking up a 5071A 10 MHz to the "Ext Ref", the lock light eventually comes on.

By guess is that it is using the external reference to discipline an internal oscillator. I haven't measured the phase noise to see if the output is better than the input...

Thanks-
Jim

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Hi (see below) > On Sep 24, 2024, at 3:52 PM, Magnus Danielson via time-nuts <time-nuts@lists.febo.com> wrote: > > Hi, > > One wonders if this could chew sawtooth corrections Nope, this came out well before that “era”. > and also what PPS time-stamping resolution it has. It depends a bit on which rev of the hardware / firmware it is. 10’s of ns on the counter and a basic analog approximation past that. The design dates to just past “the turn of the century”. The grubby details are going to be very hard to dig up. Bob > > Back when these where developed, many vendors was offering similar products, some which you could assume was better made than others. Me being obnoxious I kept doing these designs inhouse because what we where doing was not fitting a standard scheme. We still do not match that, even if I do a standard out of what we have done. Ah well, the other way around. :) > > With a better oscillator, this can be very useful. > > Cheers, > Magnus > > On 2024-09-24 03:04, Bob Camp via time-nuts wrote: >> Hi >> >> Might look at: >> >> https://datasheet.octopart.com/MD-0104-BXJ-DOCX-10M0000-Vectron-datasheet-10316008.pdf >> >> and see if it looks similar to what you have. >> >> If so, that’s a 20+ year old design. >> >> Bob >> >>> On Sep 23, 2024, at 8:31 PM, AC0XU (Jim) via time-nuts <time-nuts@lists.febo.com> wrote: >>> >>> Does anyone have any documentation for the Vectron C6300 Eval Kit? I haven't been able to find anything... >>> >>> More information on the unit: >>> >>> Model MD-010-0005 >>> ID # 23720212 >>> OM FW Version FW >>> Test Software V2.0.5 >>> >>> It has "Ext Ref" and "1 PPS" jacks on the rear. Hooking up a 5071A 10 MHz to the "Ext Ref", the lock light eventually comes on. >>> >>> By guess is that it is using the external reference to discipline an internal oscillator. I haven't measured the phase noise to see if the output is better than the input... >>> >>> Thanks- >>> Jim >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com >>> To unsubscribe send an email to time-nuts-leave@lists.febo.com >> _______________________________________________ >> time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com >> To unsubscribe send an email to time-nuts-leave@lists.febo.com > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com > To unsubscribe send an email to time-nuts-leave@lists.febo.com

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Magnus Danielson

Tue, Sep 24, 2024 10:08 PM

Hi,

On 2024-09-24 22:16, Bob Camp via time-nuts wrote:

Hi

(see below)

On Sep 24, 2024, at 3:52 PM, Magnus Danielson via time-nutstime-nuts@lists.febo.com wrote:

Hi,

One wonders if this could chew sawtooth corrections

Nope, this came out well before that “era”.

Yeah, and we have yet to leave it. I have had to educate on it twice
only last week.

But OK, then I know.

and also what PPS time-stamping resolution it has.

It depends a bit on which rev of the hardware / firmware it is. 10’s of ns on the counter and a basic analog approximation past that. The design dates to just past “the turn of the century”. The grubby details are going to be very hard to dig up.

Ah. Been there, done that, prepared option for higher resolution but
ended up not having time and need to dig deeper in that product.

Cheers,
Magnus

Bob

Back when these where developed, many vendors was offering similar products, some which you could assume was better made than others. Me being obnoxious I kept doing these designs inhouse because what we where doing was not fitting a standard scheme. We still do not match that, even if I do a standard out of what we have done. Ah well, the other way around. :)

With a better oscillator, this can be very useful.

Cheers,
Magnus

On 2024-09-24 03:04, Bob Camp via time-nuts wrote:

Hi

Might look at:

https://datasheet.octopart.com/MD-0104-BXJ-DOCX-10M0000-Vectron-datasheet-10316008.pdf

and see if it looks similar to what you have.

If so, that’s a 20+ year old design.

Bob

On Sep 23, 2024, at 8:31 PM, AC0XU (Jim) via time-nutstime-nuts@lists.febo.com wrote:

Does anyone have any documentation for the Vectron C6300 Eval Kit? I haven't been able to find anything...

More information on the unit:

Model MD-010-0005
ID # 23720212
OM FW Version FW
Test Software V2.0.5

It has "Ext Ref" and "1 PPS" jacks on the rear. Hooking up a 5071A 10 MHz to the "Ext Ref", the lock light eventually comes on.

By guess is that it is using the external reference to discipline an internal oscillator. I haven't measured the phase noise to see if the output is better than the input...

Thanks-
Jim

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Hi, On 2024-09-24 22:16, Bob Camp via time-nuts wrote: > Hi > > (see below) > >> On Sep 24, 2024, at 3:52 PM, Magnus Danielson via time-nuts<time-nuts@lists.febo.com> wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> One wonders if this could chew sawtooth corrections > Nope, this came out well before that “era”. Yeah, and we have yet to leave it. I have had to educate on it twice only last week. But OK, then I know. >> and also what PPS time-stamping resolution it has. > It depends a bit on which rev of the hardware / firmware it is. 10’s of ns on the counter and a basic analog approximation past that. The design dates to just past “the turn of the century”. The grubby details are going to be very hard to dig up. Ah. Been there, done that, prepared option for higher resolution but ended up not having time and need to dig deeper in that product. Cheers, Magnus > > Bob > >> Back when these where developed, many vendors was offering similar products, some which you could assume was better made than others. Me being obnoxious I kept doing these designs inhouse because what we where doing was not fitting a standard scheme. We still do not match that, even if I do a standard out of what we have done. Ah well, the other way around. :) >> >> With a better oscillator, this can be very useful. >> >> Cheers, >> Magnus >> >> On 2024-09-24 03:04, Bob Camp via time-nuts wrote: >>> Hi >>> >>> Might look at: >>> >>> https://datasheet.octopart.com/MD-0104-BXJ-DOCX-10M0000-Vectron-datasheet-10316008.pdf >>> >>> and see if it looks similar to what you have. >>> >>> If so, that’s a 20+ year old design. >>> >>> Bob >>> >>>> On Sep 23, 2024, at 8:31 PM, AC0XU (Jim) via time-nuts<time-nuts@lists.febo.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> Does anyone have any documentation for the Vectron C6300 Eval Kit? I haven't been able to find anything... >>>> >>>> More information on the unit: >>>> >>>> Model MD-010-0005 >>>> ID # 23720212 >>>> OM FW Version FW >>>> Test Software V2.0.5 >>>> >>>> It has "Ext Ref" and "1 PPS" jacks on the rear. Hooking up a 5071A 10 MHz to the "Ext Ref", the lock light eventually comes on. >>>> >>>> By guess is that it is using the external reference to discipline an internal oscillator. I haven't measured the phase noise to see if the output is better than the input... >>>> >>>> Thanks- >>>> Jim >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> time-nuts mailing list --time-nuts@lists.febo.com >>>> To unsubscribe send an email totime-nuts-leave@lists.febo.com >>> _______________________________________________ >>> time-nuts mailing list --time-nuts@lists.febo.com >>> To unsubscribe send an email totime-nuts-leave@lists.febo.com >> _______________________________________________ >> time-nuts mailing list --time-nuts@lists.febo.com >> To unsubscribe send an email totime-nuts-leave@lists.febo.com > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list --time-nuts@lists.febo.com > To unsubscribe send an email totime-nuts-leave@lists.febo.com

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