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E
e16@telus.net
Wed, Dec 12, 2001 10:37 PM

Jim Bohn wrote: >But from what I can tell, the USPS serves little
purpose beyond teaching classes, a service that could be easily assumed
by a web page <

I'd really like to get some expert classroom instruction in using radar
and in interpreting radar images. Anyone have any ideas who might offer
same to the general public? (The Power Squadron doesn't, and that's a
subject for the other thread.)

Cheers, Garrett

Jim Bohn wrote: >But from what I can tell, the USPS serves little purpose beyond teaching classes, a service that could be easily assumed by a web page < I'd really like to get some expert classroom instruction in using radar and in interpreting radar images. Anyone have any ideas who might offer same to the general public? (The Power Squadron doesn't, and that's a subject for the other thread.) Cheers, Garrett
S
sdubnoff@circlesys.com
Wed, Dec 12, 2001 11:05 PM

I'd really like to get some expert classroom instruction in using radar
and in interpreting radar images. Anyone have any ideas who might offer
same to the general public?

The Starpath School of Navigation (www.starpath.com) offers one in
Seattle.  They also sell a PC- based radar simulator.  I have not tried
either one of these, but they do seem like a good idea.

Best,

Steve

Steve Dubnoff
Nauticat 40 M/S, Pyxis, in Washington
sdubnoff@circlesys.com

> > >I'd really like to get some expert classroom instruction in using radar >and in interpreting radar images. Anyone have any ideas who might offer >same to the general public? The Starpath School of Navigation (www.starpath.com) offers one in Seattle. They also sell a PC- based radar simulator. I have not tried either one of these, but they do seem like a good idea. Best, Steve Steve Dubnoff Nauticat 40 M/S, Pyxis, in Washington sdubnoff@circlesys.com
C
capnrich@cnw.com
Thu, Dec 13, 2001 3:38 AM

I thought CPS had a new Radar course.
Also:
There are a number of web based courses offered by CPS and more coming. If
you are interested, http://www.cps-ecp.ca/html/english/course2k_list.html

Courses on the Internet are: AG-2080-IN Boat Pro Start any time with 3
months to finish 35.00* N/A
AG-6040-IN Extended Cruising Start any time with 3 months to finish 105.00*
90.00*
AG-2079-IN Navigating with GPS Start any time with 3 months to finish 30.00*
30.00*
AG-2040-IN VHF Start any time with 3 months to finish 55.00 55.00
Prices are C$.

Those of you with the 'perception' of an elitist org. and/or one that does
not enjoy a national 'raison d'etre' might find the 'perception' to be
challenged by a look at the above site, particularly the item with CCGAux.

Out of these classes come people who are not among the boating types this
list typically goes on about. This is a good thing for all of us and a
worthy pursuit.
Richard

I thought CPS had a new Radar course. Also: There are a number of web based courses offered by CPS and more coming. If you are interested, http://www.cps-ecp.ca/html/english/course2k_list.html Courses on the Internet are: AG-2080-IN Boat Pro Start any time with 3 months to finish 35.00* N/A AG-6040-IN Extended Cruising Start any time with 3 months to finish 105.00* 90.00* AG-2079-IN Navigating with GPS Start any time with 3 months to finish 30.00* 30.00* AG-2040-IN VHF Start any time with 3 months to finish 55.00 55.00 Prices are C$. Those of you with the 'perception' of an elitist org. and/or one that does not enjoy a national 'raison d'etre' might find the 'perception' to be challenged by a look at the above site, particularly the item with CCGAux. Out of these classes come people who are *not* among the boating types this list typically goes on about. This is a good thing for all of us and a worthy pursuit. Richard
E
elnav@uniserve.com
Thu, Dec 13, 2001 8:27 AM

At 02:37 PM 12/12/2001 -0800, Garrett Lambert wrote:

snip<<<

Anyone have any ideas who might offer radar classes to the general public?
(The Power Squadron doesn't, and that's a subject for the other thread.)

REPLY
Both CPS and USPS  have embarked on a program of  changing the  long
classes  covering a multitude of subjects into short modules focussed on
specific  topics.

I wrote  several short  modules  on Loran, GPS Radar and depth sounders
for CPS.
These have been available  from  Headquarters for many years now but local
squadrons are unwilling to use them or do not know about them.    Garrett's
experience of being told  no such thing  exist  highlights this fact.

I worked closely with my opposite number  in USPS  while developing  course
material.  We have a reciprocal agreement  which allows each to use the
other's  course material  if we find it suitable.
USPS  actually started  developing modular course material  before CPS did.
However, opposition from  the "old guard "  at the local squadron level has
often proven to be a bigger impediment than  actually  finding willing and
qualified  technical writers  to develop  course material.

As an example  The GPS course which I developed for CPS was seen  by the
USCG  Aux Chief Commander  at the USPS national conference.  As a result
they purchased  4000 copies from CPS for use in  all local  Aux  units for
training theie own people.
I had to  change some  material which was too  specific to Canadian
conditions and  alter the wording  in other places to make it more
universally  applicable.
However, in my own squadron someone  who had decided to make a name for
himself refused to use the CPS material and instead offered  his own
version of a GPS seminar.  ( go figure!)

Despite having this material  available  many squadrons  still do  not
offer a separate GPS seminar.
I have heard that  this sort of thing also happens in some USPS squadrons.
So please do not generalize about all Power Squadrons  just because you
have had a poor  experience  with one local unit.
In many urban areas there are  often  more than  one squadron to choose
from.  If the  personality of one doesn't suit you take a look at the next
one.
Finally,  if the  local squadron  doesn't live up to your expectations,
have a looka t  what you can contribute  to make it better.

Teaching  safe boating is the raison d'etre but the social events are the
glue we use to  keep the volunteers  together  through thick and thin;
good timesd and bad.
This year I earned my life member award.  I wouldn't have stayed around if
it wasn't fun!

I know of some squadrons which have developed  special interest  classes
for their local needs.  It may not fit with the national  perspective but
locally these have proven a great success.
So forget the uniform.  Wear jeans and loafers; but come out to class and
share you  knowledge, experience and  have fun!
There are students taking squadron courses  outside of  the continental
north America.
A buddy of mine took his Boating class in Saudi Arabia while  working there
for 18 months.
There are also  correspondence  courses available.  CPS now has a full
certificate  member  in the high arctic. The man is a priest  in a local
parish.  Took the course for interest sake. , The nearest squadron to him
is 1000 miles away.

Cheers
Arild Jensen
The Electronic  Navigator

At 02:37 PM 12/12/2001 -0800, Garrett Lambert wrote: >>> snip<<< Anyone have any ideas who might offer radar classes to the general public? (The Power Squadron doesn't, and that's a subject for the other thread.) REPLY Both CPS and USPS have embarked on a program of changing the long classes covering a multitude of subjects into short modules focussed on specific topics. I wrote several short modules on Loran, GPS Radar and depth sounders for CPS. These have been available from Headquarters for many years now but local squadrons are unwilling to use them or do not know about them. Garrett's experience of being told no such thing exist highlights this fact. I worked closely with my opposite number in USPS while developing course material. We have a reciprocal agreement which allows each to use the other's course material if we find it suitable. USPS actually started developing modular course material before CPS did. However, opposition from the "old guard " at the local squadron level has often proven to be a bigger impediment than actually finding willing and qualified technical writers to develop course material. As an example The GPS course which I developed for CPS was seen by the USCG Aux Chief Commander at the USPS national conference. As a result they purchased 4000 copies from CPS for use in all local Aux units for training theie own people. I had to change some material which was too specific to Canadian conditions and alter the wording in other places to make it more universally applicable. However, in my own squadron someone who had decided to make a name for himself refused to use the CPS material and instead offered his own version of a GPS seminar. ( go figure!) Despite having this material available many squadrons still do not offer a separate GPS seminar. I have heard that this sort of thing also happens in some USPS squadrons. So please do not generalize about all Power Squadrons just because you have had a poor experience with one local unit. In many urban areas there are often more than one squadron to choose from. If the personality of one doesn't suit you take a look at the next one. Finally, if the local squadron doesn't live up to your expectations, have a looka t what you can contribute to make it better. Teaching safe boating is the raison d'etre but the social events are the glue we use to keep the volunteers together through thick and thin; good timesd and bad. This year I earned my life member award. I wouldn't have stayed around if it wasn't fun! I know of some squadrons which have developed special interest classes for their local needs. It may not fit with the national perspective but locally these have proven a great success. So forget the uniform. Wear jeans and loafers; but come out to class and share you knowledge, experience and have fun! There are students taking squadron courses outside of the continental north America. A buddy of mine took his Boating class in Saudi Arabia while working there for 18 months. There are also correspondence courses available. CPS now has a full certificate member in the high arctic. The man is a priest in a local parish. Took the course for interest sake. , The nearest squadron to him is 1000 miles away. Cheers Arild Jensen The Electronic Navigator
J
jgaquin@earthlink.net
Thu, Dec 13, 2001 12:38 PM

From: "Arild Jensen" elnav@uniserve.com

.... The GPS course which I developed for CPS was seen  by the
USCG  Aux......they purchased  4000 copies from CPS for use in  all local
Aux  units for training theie own people.

So you're the guy!!  That's a very good unit.  We not only use it for member
training, but also offer one-day GPS seminars along with our other Public
Education offerings.  We've gotten a good response, and very positive
feedback.  Thanks, Arild!

Regards,

John Gaquin
FC, 01N0502
USCGAux

From: "Arild Jensen" <elnav@uniserve.com> > > .... The GPS course which I developed for CPS was seen by the > USCG Aux......they purchased 4000 copies from CPS for use in all local >Aux units for training theie own people. So you're the guy!! That's a very good unit. We not only use it for member training, but also offer one-day GPS seminars along with our other Public Education offerings. We've gotten a good response, and very positive feedback. Thanks, Arild! Regards, John Gaquin FC, 01N0502 USCGAux