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Z3801A Freq jumping

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George Sintchak
Mon, Jul 22, 2013 3:29 PM

Hello all - Not sure what's happening to my Z3801A. Doesn't unlock, but EFC jumping all over.
Is my oven controller dieing? I did a reacquire satellites abt 10 days ago - no difference.
See plot below of the last ~36 days. Any thing to try - restart from cold, etc ???
George

Hello all - Not sure what's happening to my Z3801A. Doesn't unlock, but EFC jumping all over. Is my oven controller dieing? I did a reacquire satellites abt 10 days ago - no difference. See plot below of the last ~36 days. Any thing to try - restart from cold, etc ??? George
MC
Mark C. Stephens
Mon, Jul 22, 2013 4:32 PM

George,

Looking at your graph, as far as I can see, the EFC jumps appear to be tied to the TI

From the graph, your hitting +/- ~750ns. Normally, one sees +/- ~50ns. nax

(although one particular basket case I have goes up into the milliseconds occasionally,
It is a defective GPS module, I have proved this by swapping the module with another unit and the fault follows the GPS module.)
I am not sure of the mechanics of how the EFC follows TI, perhaps one of the other members can chime in?

-marki

-----Original Message-----
From: time-nuts-bounces@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-bounces@febo.com] On Behalf Of George Sintchak
Sent: Tuesday, 23 July 2013 1:30 AM
To: time-nuts@febo.com
Subject: [time-nuts] Z3801A Freq jumping

Hello all - Not sure what's happening to my Z3801A. Doesn't unlock, but EFC jumping all over.
Is my oven controller dieing? I did a reacquire satellites abt 10 days ago - no difference.
See plot below of the last ~36 days. Any thing to try - restart from cold, etc ???
George

George, Looking at your graph, as far as I can see, the EFC jumps appear to be tied to the TI >From the graph, your hitting +/- ~750ns. Normally, one sees +/- ~50ns. nax (although one particular basket case I have goes up into the milliseconds occasionally, It is a defective GPS module, I have proved this by swapping the module with another unit and the fault follows the GPS module.) I am not sure of the mechanics of how the EFC follows TI, perhaps one of the other members can chime in? -marki -----Original Message----- From: time-nuts-bounces@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-bounces@febo.com] On Behalf Of George Sintchak Sent: Tuesday, 23 July 2013 1:30 AM To: time-nuts@febo.com Subject: [time-nuts] Z3801A Freq jumping Hello all - Not sure what's happening to my Z3801A. Doesn't unlock, but EFC jumping all over. Is my oven controller dieing? I did a reacquire satellites abt 10 days ago - no difference. See plot below of the last ~36 days. Any thing to try - restart from cold, etc ??? George
GS
George Sintchak
Tue, Jul 23, 2013 2:33 AM

OK Marki, I have a Z3816 with a possible bad  5 MHz oscillator. Maybe I can
swap out the GPS rcvr. I have to see if they are compatible. Does anyone out
there know?
Tnx,
George

----- Original Message -----
From: "Mark C. Stephens" marks@non-stop.com.au
To: "Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement"
time-nuts@febo.com
Sent: Monday, July 22, 2013 12:32 PM
Subject: RE: [time-nuts] Z3801A Freq jumping

George,

Looking at your graph, as far as I can see, the EFC jumps appear to be
tied to the TI
From the graph, your hitting +/- ~750ns. Normally, one sees +/- ~50ns. nax
(although one particular basket case I have goes up into the milliseconds
occasionally,
It is a defective GPS module, I have proved this by swapping the module
with another unit and the fault follows the GPS module.)
I am not sure of the mechanics of how the EFC follows TI, perhaps one of
the other members can chime in?

-marki

-----Original Message-----
From: time-nuts-bounces@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-bounces@febo.com] On
Behalf Of George Sintchak
Sent: Tuesday, 23 July 2013 1:30 AM
To: time-nuts@febo.com
Subject: [time-nuts] Z3801A Freq jumping

Hello all - Not sure what's happening to my Z3801A. Doesn't unlock, but
EFC jumping all over.
Is my oven controller dieing? I did a reacquire satellites abt 10 days
ago - no difference.
See plot below of the last ~36 days. Any thing to try - restart from cold,
etc ???
George

OK Marki, I have a Z3816 with a possible bad 5 MHz oscillator. Maybe I can swap out the GPS rcvr. I have to see if they are compatible. Does anyone out there know? Tnx, George ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark C. Stephens" <marks@non-stop.com.au> To: "Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement" <time-nuts@febo.com> Sent: Monday, July 22, 2013 12:32 PM Subject: RE: [time-nuts] Z3801A Freq jumping > George, > > Looking at your graph, as far as I can see, the EFC jumps appear to be > tied to the TI > From the graph, your hitting +/- ~750ns. Normally, one sees +/- ~50ns. nax > (although one particular basket case I have goes up into the milliseconds > occasionally, > It is a defective GPS module, I have proved this by swapping the module > with another unit and the fault follows the GPS module.) > I am not sure of the mechanics of how the EFC follows TI, perhaps one of > the other members can chime in? > > > -marki > > -----Original Message----- > From: time-nuts-bounces@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-bounces@febo.com] On > Behalf Of George Sintchak > Sent: Tuesday, 23 July 2013 1:30 AM > To: time-nuts@febo.com > Subject: [time-nuts] Z3801A Freq jumping > > Hello all - Not sure what's happening to my Z3801A. Doesn't unlock, but > EFC jumping all over. > Is my oven controller dieing? I did a reacquire satellites abt 10 days > ago - no difference. > See plot below of the last ~36 days. Any thing to try - restart from cold, > etc ??? > George > >
MC
Mark C. Stephens
Tue, Jul 23, 2013 3:19 AM

George,

The Z3816A is 8 channel, the Z3801A is 6 channel.

What is the problem with the Z3816A?
EFC error?

-marki

-----Original Message-----
From: George Sintchak [mailto:wa2vnv@optonline.net]
Sent: Tuesday, 23 July 2013 12:34 PM
To: Mark C. Stephens; time-nuts@febo.com
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Z3801A Freq jumping

OK Marki, I have a Z3816 with a possible bad  5 MHz oscillator. Maybe I can swap out the GPS rcvr. I have to see if they are compatible. Does anyone out there know?
Tnx,
George

----- Original Message -----
From: "Mark C. Stephens" marks@non-stop.com.au
To: "Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement"
time-nuts@febo.com
Sent: Monday, July 22, 2013 12:32 PM
Subject: RE: [time-nuts] Z3801A Freq jumping

George,

Looking at your graph, as far as I can see, the EFC jumps appear to be
tied to the TI
From the graph, your hitting +/- ~750ns. Normally, one sees +/- ~50ns. nax
(although one particular basket case I have goes up into the milliseconds
occasionally,
It is a defective GPS module, I have proved this by swapping the module
with another unit and the fault follows the GPS module.)
I am not sure of the mechanics of how the EFC follows TI, perhaps one of
the other members can chime in?

-marki

-----Original Message-----
From: time-nuts-bounces@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-bounces@febo.com] On
Behalf Of George Sintchak
Sent: Tuesday, 23 July 2013 1:30 AM
To: time-nuts@febo.com
Subject: [time-nuts] Z3801A Freq jumping

Hello all - Not sure what's happening to my Z3801A. Doesn't unlock, but
EFC jumping all over.
Is my oven controller dieing? I did a reacquire satellites abt 10 days
ago - no difference.
See plot below of the last ~36 days. Any thing to try - restart from cold,
etc ???
George

George, The Z3816A is 8 channel, the Z3801A is 6 channel. What is the problem with the Z3816A? EFC error? -marki -----Original Message----- From: George Sintchak [mailto:wa2vnv@optonline.net] Sent: Tuesday, 23 July 2013 12:34 PM To: Mark C. Stephens; time-nuts@febo.com Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Z3801A Freq jumping OK Marki, I have a Z3816 with a possible bad 5 MHz oscillator. Maybe I can swap out the GPS rcvr. I have to see if they are compatible. Does anyone out there know? Tnx, George ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark C. Stephens" <marks@non-stop.com.au> To: "Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement" <time-nuts@febo.com> Sent: Monday, July 22, 2013 12:32 PM Subject: RE: [time-nuts] Z3801A Freq jumping > George, > > Looking at your graph, as far as I can see, the EFC jumps appear to be > tied to the TI > From the graph, your hitting +/- ~750ns. Normally, one sees +/- ~50ns. nax > (although one particular basket case I have goes up into the milliseconds > occasionally, > It is a defective GPS module, I have proved this by swapping the module > with another unit and the fault follows the GPS module.) > I am not sure of the mechanics of how the EFC follows TI, perhaps one of > the other members can chime in? > > > -marki > > -----Original Message----- > From: time-nuts-bounces@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-bounces@febo.com] On > Behalf Of George Sintchak > Sent: Tuesday, 23 July 2013 1:30 AM > To: time-nuts@febo.com > Subject: [time-nuts] Z3801A Freq jumping > > Hello all - Not sure what's happening to my Z3801A. Doesn't unlock, but > EFC jumping all over. > Is my oven controller dieing? I did a reacquire satellites abt 10 days > ago - no difference. > See plot below of the last ~36 days. Any thing to try - restart from cold, > etc ??? > George > >