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HBG transmitted wrong info during leapsecond

PK
Poul-Henning Kamp
Sat, Jan 7, 2006 11:12 AM

Looks like the inserted the leapsecond after the minutemarker:

http://phk.freebsd.dk/Leap/20051231_HBG/

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Looks like the inserted the leapsecond after the minutemarker: http://phk.freebsd.dk/Leap/20051231_HBG/ -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 phk@FreeBSD.ORG | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence.
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sebastian stolp
Sat, Jan 7, 2006 1:37 PM

hello paul,
living in switzerland - i thougt it was my duty to invite metas to explain
how this happened. maybe we have their input coming monday....

best regards from zuerich,
sebastian

--- Ursprüngliche Nachricht ---
Von: Poul-Henning Kamp phk@phk.freebsd.dk
An: time-nuts@febo.com
Betreff: [time-nuts] HBG transmitted wrong info during leapsecond
Datum: Sat, 07 Jan 2006 12:12:10 +0100

Looks like the inserted the leapsecond after the minutemarker:

http://phk.freebsd.dk/Leap/20051231_HBG/

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hello paul, living in switzerland - i thougt it was my duty to invite metas to explain how this happened. maybe we have their input coming monday.... best regards from zuerich, sebastian > --- Ursprüngliche Nachricht --- > Von: Poul-Henning Kamp <phk@phk.freebsd.dk> > An: time-nuts@febo.com > Betreff: [time-nuts] HBG transmitted wrong info during leapsecond > Datum: Sat, 07 Jan 2006 12:12:10 +0100 > > > Looks like the inserted the leapsecond after the minutemarker: > > http://phk.freebsd.dk/Leap/20051231_HBG/ > > -- > Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 > phk@FreeBSD.ORG | TCP/IP since RFC 956 > FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe > Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by > incompetence. > > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list > time-nuts@febo.com > https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > -- 10 GB Mailbox, 100 FreeSMS/Monat http://www.gmx.net/de/go/topmail +++ GMX - die erste Adresse für Mail, Message, More +++
PK
Poul-Henning Kamp
Sat, Jan 7, 2006 1:40 PM

In message 32708.1136641046@www74.gmx.net, "sebastian stolp" writes:

hello paul,
living in switzerland - i thougt it was my duty to invite metas to explain =

how this happened. maybe we have their input coming monday....

I also sent an email to the three persons in charge (according to
their web-page).

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In message <32708.1136641046@www74.gmx.net>, "sebastian stolp" writes: >hello paul, >living in switzerland - i thougt it was my duty to invite metas to explain = > >how this happened. maybe we have their input coming monday.... I also sent an email to the three persons in charge (according to their web-page). -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 phk@FreeBSD.ORG | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence.
PD
Pieter-Tjerk de Boer
Sat, Jan 7, 2006 2:42 PM

On Sat, Jan 07, 2006 at 12:12:10PM +0100, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote:

Looks like the inserted the leapsecond after the minutemarker:

http://phk.freebsd.dk/Leap/20051231_HBG/

I have noticed this error too (and errors in MSF and Deutschlandfunk);
see http://wwwhome.cs.utwente.nl/~ptdeboer/ham/sdr/leapsecond.html
and my time-nuts posting of January 2nd.
I'm glad that this observation has now been confirmed independently.

B.t.w., on your web page you say there's no detailed description of
HBG's data format available. However, on the German and French pages
there is a detailed pdf description, and by changing the URL an
Englisch version can also be found:
http://www.metas.ch/en/labors/official-time/pdf/hgb_info_e.pdf
The description given there of how the leap-second is handled, clearly
disagrees with our observations.

Best regards,
Pieter-Tjerk (PA3FWM)

On Sat, Jan 07, 2006 at 12:12:10PM +0100, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: > > Looks like the inserted the leapsecond after the minutemarker: > > http://phk.freebsd.dk/Leap/20051231_HBG/ I have noticed this error too (and errors in MSF and Deutschlandfunk); see http://wwwhome.cs.utwente.nl/~ptdeboer/ham/sdr/leapsecond.html and my time-nuts posting of January 2nd. I'm glad that this observation has now been confirmed independently. B.t.w., on your web page you say there's no detailed description of HBG's data format available. However, on the German and French pages there is a detailed pdf description, and by changing the URL an Englisch version can also be found: http://www.metas.ch/en/labors/official-time/pdf/hgb_info_e.pdf The description given there of how the leap-second is handled, clearly disagrees with our observations. Best regards, Pieter-Tjerk (PA3FWM)
PK
Poul-Henning Kamp
Sat, Jan 7, 2006 2:51 PM

In message 20060107144202.GA1651@cs.utwente.nl, Pieter-Tjerk de Boer writes:

B.t.w., on your web page you say there's no detailed description of
HBG's data format available. However, on the German and French pages
there is a detailed pdf description, and by changing the URL an
Englisch version can also be found:
http://www.metas.ch/en/labors/official-time/pdf/hgb_info_e.pdf
The description given there of how the leap-second is handled, clearly
disagrees with our observations.

Thanks!  I've updated my page.

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In message <20060107144202.GA1651@cs.utwente.nl>, Pieter-Tjerk de Boer writes: > >B.t.w., on your web page you say there's no detailed description of >HBG's data format available. However, on the German and French pages >there is a detailed pdf description, and by changing the URL an >Englisch version can also be found: > http://www.metas.ch/en/labors/official-time/pdf/hgb_info_e.pdf >The description given there of how the leap-second is handled, clearly >disagrees with our observations. Thanks! I've updated my page. -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 phk@FreeBSD.ORG | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence.