Mike
Assuming all the 8V battereis are identical, you have a house bank twice
as big as the start bank.
With regards to your concern that the "house bank" might be up and thus
will be over charged while you bring up the start bank.
That isn't likely provided you only use the start bank for starting and no
other appliances are connected to them.
These start batteris will finish a days run fully charged from the engine
alternator. As you indicated.
The house bank is the one that gets depleted overnight as you use lights
inverter etc. This is only true if you do not have shore power connected,
or run the genset.
If you are connected to an AC source of power, the Heart will keep the
house bank topped up and supply the loads straight from the charger.
Only if you have a sustained load that exceeds the charger output ( 130A
) will the batteries get drained.
If you do not have the battery cross over switch closed, the start bank
will not get depleted from the house loads.
Therefore you do not need to add a fancy combiner switch. The cross over
switch is sufficient for the occasional time when you do run the start
bank flat while cranking a stubborn engine or bleeding the fuel system.
I'm wondering why you feel the start bank need constant charging with the
engines shut down.
Are you finding the batteries are not holding a charge?
How long does it take for the batteries to get low?
How old are the batteries?
Have you tested the batteries for sulfation, physical damage or other
signs of weakness?
Do you have some sort of load connectede to the start battery? - other
than the start solonoid.
If you have a need to trickle charge the start battery this can be done
using the echo charger.
Unless your model is very old it should have one included inside from the
factory.
Regards
Arild
At 06:12 PM 09/07/2001 EDT, SobreElMar@aol.com wrote:
Hi Arild,
Question for you regarding batteries in series and parallel.
I am using 4 - 8volt Golf Cart batteries in series to produce 32 volts,
these are then parralleled to another 4 so that I have 8 batteries to
produce a 32 volt bank on the starboard side of the boat. Should I be
using some sort of battery combiner unit to help with charging? I have a
3,000 watt Heart inverter/charger hooked to this bank for the primary
charging system. Also use this same system to charge when generator is
running.
The other side of vessel has another 4 golf cart batteries as a
dedicated starting bank. The only way to charge all 12 batteries is to
close the cross over switch. Again, wondering if I should be using some
sort of newer combiner unit to charge that set. The only way to charge the
port bank is to close the cross over switch. Seems to me if the starboard
bank is "up" then I might be over charging them in order to charge the port
bank which might be low.
When engines are running I have no problem as the port engine charges
the port bank and the starboard engine charges the starboard bank.
When you respond please reply to me directly as well as the list as I
don't want to miss your response.
Thanks again for your valued response!
Capt. Mike Schachter
M/V Sobre El Mar
Hi Arild,
Question for you regarding batteries in series and parallel.
I am using 4 - 8volt Golf Cart batteries in series to produce 32 volts, these are then parralleled to another 4 so that I have 8 batteries to produce a 32 volt bank on the starboard side of the boat. Should I be using some sort of battery combiner unit to help with charging? I have a 3,000 watt Heart inverter/charger hooked to this bank for the primary charging system. Also use this same system to charge when generator is running.
The other side of vessel has another 4 golf cart batteries as a dedicated starting bank. The only way to charge all 12 batteries is to close the cross over switch. Again, wondering if I should be using some sort of newer combiner unit to charge that set. The only way to charge the port bank is to close the cross over switch. Seems to me if the starboard bank is "up" then I might be over charging them in order to charge the port bank which might be low.
When engines are running I have no problem as the port engine charges the port bank and the starboard engine charges the starboard bank.
When you respond please reply to me directly as well as the list as I don't want to miss your response.
Thanks again for your valued response!
Capt. Mike Schachter
M/V Sobre El Mar
At 06:12 PM 09/07/2001 EDT, SobreElMar@aol.com wrote:
Hi Arild,
The other side of vessel has another 4 golf cart batteries as a
dedicated starting bank. The only way to charge all 12 batteries is to
close the cross over switch. Again, wondering if I should be using some
sort of newer combiner unit to charge that set. The only way to charge the
port bank is to close the cross over switch. Seems to me if the starboard
bank is "up" then I might be over charging them in order to charge the port
bank which might be low.
Capt. Mike Schachter
M/V Sobre El Mar
Something I'v always wondered about: If you close a switch between a
"dead" battery bank and a fully charged one wouldn't you get a really large
current surge through the switch, and would this high current do any damage
to either bank?. (or to your boat?)....jd
Joe DellaFera / Margaret Murray
36' Prairie DC "Prairie Star"
Pompano Beach, Fl.
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WOULD BE A GREAT TIME TO HAVE "DIE--HARDS" on board", throw the bad one
over and and keep on trucking.
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At 09:49 PM 9/7/01 -0400, you wrote:
At 06:12 PM 09/07/2001 EDT, SobreElMar@aol.com wrote:
Hi Arild,
The other side of vessel has another 4 golf cart batteries as a
dedicated starting bank. The only way to charge all 12 batteries is to
close the cross over switch. Again, wondering if I should be using some
sort of newer combiner unit to charge that set. The only way to charge the
port bank is to close the cross over switch. Seems to me if the starboard
bank is "up" then I might be over charging them in order to charge the port
bank which might be low.
Capt. Mike Schachter
M/V Sobre El Mar
Something I'v always wondered about: If you close a switch between a
"dead" battery bank and a fully charged one wouldn't you get a really large
current surge through the switch, and would this high current do any damage
to either bank?. (or to your boat?)....jd
Joe DellaFera / Margaret Murray
36' Prairie DC "Prairie Star"
Pompano Beach, Fl.
Captain Al Pilvinis
"M/V Driftwood"--Prairie 47
2630 N.E. 41st Street
Lighthouse Point, Fl 33064-8064
Voice 954-941-2556 Fax 954 788-2666
Email yourcaptain@earthlink.net
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The web site at Ample Power ( http://www.amplepower.com ) has a primer
that argues that it would be more efficient and better over all for
battery life etc to combine all house batteries as one bank with a lot
of amp-hour capacity than have two banks to switch between. It is also
a very good refresher course for electric system review.
Mark Andrew
"Black River"
56' steel trawler, Holland, MI