Location Of HIN
I have a 1974 Grandbanks 42. Is there more than one location in the hull where
the Hull Identification Number, (HIN), is located. I inadvertently covered the
one on the stern when I mounted a custom made incinerator there.
Pat Harman
M/V Meriwether
Pat,
Can you tell us about this incinerator?
Ted G.
DeFever 44, Amici
Branford, CT
On Sun, 10 Jun 2007 07:12:36 -0700, Patrick Harman wrote
I have a 1974 Grandbanks 42. Is there more than one location in the
hull where the Hull Identification Number, (HIN), is located. I
inadvertently covered the one on the stern when I mounted a custom
made incinerator there.
Pat Harman
M/V Meriwether
For what its worth mime boat has one that is very visible on the sides of
the swim platform and another in the chain locker.
Gordon
Alchemy
USCG Doc. No.: 1177849
Call Sign: WDC7347
Owners: Gordon & Yu-ching Anderson
Mailing Address: 4004 Wallace Lane, Nashville, TN 37215
Phone: + (615) 297-8289
Current Cellular: +852 9531-3160
Current Anchorage - Gold Coast Yacht Club, Hong Kong
Email: alchemy@post.com
Web Site: http://www.alchemy-trawler.com/
Blog: http://usmvalchemy.spaces.live.com/
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Subject: T&T: Location Of HIN
I have a 1974 Grandbanks 42. Is there more than one location in the hull
where
the Hull Identification Number, (HIN), is located. I inadvertently covered
the
one on the stern when I mounted a custom made incinerator there.
Pat Harman
M/V Meriwether
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I have a 1974 Grandbanks 42. Is there more than one location in the hull
where
the Hull Identification Number, (HIN), is located. I inadvertently covered
the
one on the stern when I mounted a custom made incinerator there.
Pat:
USCG requires the builder to hide a second HIN somewhere in or on the boat.
To find this , which may under a cleat, and etc., you would have to contact
the builder. Since this number is there to identify a boat that has been
stolen you might have to jump through some hoops with the builder.
How that Homeland Security is the Coast Guards parents, it might be best in
the long run to move the incinerator...not likely the option you were
looking for, I am sure, but with it hidden, a boarding by USCG, or other law
enforcement might prove unpleasant.
I build small boats, and once was asked by USCG where the hidden HIH
was....I now put it in the same place every boat. Grand Banks may well do
this as well, but bottom line is the requirement for the HIN to be on the
upper STBD side of the transom, or within 18 inches of the stern if double
ended.
Woody
Marben 27
Port Orchard, WA
This is getting complicated. My incinerator was bolted to the transom with
5200 adhesive. So I am now on a mission to find the 2nd HIN. I will contact
the dealer tomorrow. Stepped in my own dodo.
Pat Harman
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From: "Woody and Kathy" woodside@wavecable.com
To: "'Patrick Harman'" ppharman@comcast.net; "'trawlers-and-trawlering'"
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Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2007 6:15 PM
Subject: RE: Location Of HIN
I have a 1974 Grandbanks 42. Is there more than one location in the hull
where
the Hull Identification Number, (HIN), is located. I inadvertently covered
the
one on the stern when I mounted a custom made incinerator there.
Pat:
USCG requires the builder to hide a second HIN somewhere in or on the
boat.
To find this , which may under a cleat, and etc., you would have to
contact
the builder. Since this number is there to identify a boat that has been
stolen you might have to jump through some hoops with the builder.
How that Homeland Security is the Coast Guards parents, it might be best
in
the long run to move the incinerator...not likely the option you were
looking for, I am sure, but with it hidden, a boarding by USCG, or other
law
enforcement might prove unpleasant.
I build small boats, and once was asked by USCG where the hidden HIH
was....I now put it in the same place every boat. Grand Banks may well do
this as well, but bottom line is the requirement for the HIN to be on the
upper STBD side of the transom, or within 18 inches of the stern if double
ended.
Woody
Marben 27
Port Orchard, WA
A website that I found called Nautical Know How states that "Boats
manufactured or imported on or after August 1, 1984, also have a duplicate
secondary HIN affixed somewhere on an unexposed location inside the boat or
beneath a fitting or item of hardware. The purpose is to help authorities
identify your boat if a thief or vandals remove or damage the primary HIN on
the transom." Due to the age of your boat it is doubtful that there is a
second HIN anywhere on your boat. If your boat is stolen the original HIN
on the stern is still there & can be exposed.
The website also states "It is illegal for anyone (manufacturer, dealer,
distributor, or owner) to alter or remove a HIN without the express written
authorization of the Commandant, U.S. Coast Guard." As you have not altered
(hopefully you didn't drill any holes in it) or removed the HIN you may have
nothing to worry about. I'm not sure that it is standard procedure for the
Coast Guard to inspect the HIN although if they did you might run into a
problem.
I'm also curious about the "incinerator" you mounted on the stern. Could
you explain this?
Regards,
Carl
I have a 1974 Grandbanks 42. Is there more than one location in the hull
where the Hull Identification Number, (HIN), is located. I inadvertently
covered the one on the stern when I mounted a custom made incinerator
there.
use is prohibited.
My understanding is that there are two - one on the aft starboard end of the
veassel and readible from an external position, and a second one that is
hidden usually inside the vessel. I've heard that sometimes this second one
is even put under a cleat mounting or behind a bulkhead. My second one is
in a closet but underneath the fuzzy insulation! You gotta know it is there
and have a knife!
Dale Moses
Camano 41
dalemoses@aol.com mailto:dalemoses@aol.com
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Dr. Gordon Anderson
Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2007 3:16 PM
To: 'Patrick Harman'; 'trawlers-and-trawlering'
Subject: Re: T&T: Location Of HIN
For what its worth mime boat has one that is very visible on the sides of
the swim platform and another in the chain locker.
Gordon
Alchemy
USCG Doc. No.: 1177849
Call Sign: WDC7347
Owners: Gordon & Yu-ching Anderson
Mailing Address: 4004 Wallace Lane, Nashville, TN 37215
Phone: + (615) 297-8289
Current Cellular: +852 9531-3160
Current Anchorage - Gold Coast Yacht Club, Hong Kong
Email: alchemy@post.com
Web Site: http://www.alchemy-trawler.com/
Blog: http://usmvalchemy.spaces.live.com/
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[mailto:trawlers-and-trawlering-bounces@lists.samurai.com] On Behalf Of
Patrick Harman
Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2007 10:13 PM
To: trawlers-and-trawlering
Subject: T&T: Location Of HIN
I have a 1974 Grandbanks 42. Is there more than one location in the hull
where
the Hull Identification Number, (HIN), is located. I inadvertently covered
the
one on the stern when I mounted a custom made incinerator there.
Pat Harman
M/V Meriwether
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My Canadian made 1974 Georgian Steel has no HIN anywhere on the stern. I
had the entire hull sandblasted before the last painting and no HIN was
found. I have looked inside, on the struts, supports, on anything I can
think of and no HIN can be found. I know this boat was registered at some
point in one of the states, I suspect NY, but in spite of this, there is no
HIN.
Rob
At 09:54 PM 6/10/2007 -0400, Carl H. Martin wrote:
A website that I found called Nautical Know How states that "Boats
manufactured or imported on or after August 1, 1984, also have a duplicate
secondary HIN affixed somewhere on an unexposed location inside the boat or
beneath a fitting or item of hardware. The purpose is to help authorities
identify your boat if a thief or vandals remove or damage the primary HIN on
the transom." Due to the age of your boat it is doubtful that there is a
second HIN anywhere on your boat. If your boat is stolen the original HIN
on the stern is still there & can be exposed.
The website also states "It is illegal for anyone (manufacturer, dealer,
distributor, or owner) to alter or remove a HIN without the express written
authorization of the Commandant, U.S. Coast Guard." As you have not altered
(hopefully you didn't drill any holes in it) or removed the HIN you may have
nothing to worry about. I'm not sure that it is standard procedure for the
Coast Guard to inspect the HIN although if they did you might run into a
problem.
I'm also curious about the "incinerator" you mounted on the stern. Could
you explain this?
Regards,
Carl
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