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Accipiters - An Interesting Taxonomic Revision

SM
Steve Mayo
Thu, Sep 26, 2024 8:24 PM

There are plans to chunk Cooper's Hawk and American Goshawk into the genus
Astur. For further information, google the Wikipedia article called
"Accipitrinae".

As long as (1) eBird retains a Sharp-shinned/Cooper's Hawk choice and (2)
HawkCount retains UA (it could mean unidentified Accipiter OR Astur)...then
all is well with the world.

Steve Mayo
Bethany

There are plans to chunk Cooper's Hawk and American Goshawk into the genus Astur. For further information, google the Wikipedia article called "Accipitrinae". As long as (1) eBird retains a Sharp-shinned/Cooper's Hawk choice and (2) HawkCount retains UA (it could mean unidentified Accipiter OR Astur)...then all is well with the world. Steve Mayo Bethany
MB
Matthew Bell
Fri, Sep 27, 2024 12:28 AM

eBird will be retaining Sharp-shinned/Cooper’s but notes that it is a cross-genus split. They will also be replacing Accipiter sp. with “Accipitrine hawk sp. (former Accipiter sp.)”. They “officially” announced this two days ago on their website while summarizing the upcoming taxonomic update (currently set for October 22nd), but it’s been out for a while. Only six species will remaining in Accipiter (well, that is, until they finally get around splitting Sharp-shinned Hawk into more species!).

For those interested in other taxonomic changes that will be “official” in October: Herring Gull will be split into 4 species (American, European, Vega, and Mongolian); the three redpoll species will be lumped into one (Redpoll); House Wren and Barn Owl will be split, with ours becoming Northern House Wren and American Barn Owl, respectively; and, Cory’s Shearwater will finally be split into Cory’s and Scopoli’s shearwaters. This should have a net 0 change on the CT state list as far as I can tell, losing “Hoary Redpoll” but gaining “Vega Gull.” I don’t believe there’s any confirmed “Scopoli’s Shearwaters” for Connecticut, with the term “likely” being used for one candidate that’s been reviewed.

It’s a fun time of the year!

-Matt Bell
Vernon

On Sep 26, 2024, at 16:24, Steve Mayo via CTBirds ctbirds@lists.ctbirding.org wrote:

There are plans to chunk Cooper's Hawk and American Goshawk into the genus
Astur. For further information, google the Wikipedia article called
"Accipitrinae".

As long as (1) eBird retains a Sharp-shinned/Cooper's Hawk choice and (2)
HawkCount retains UA (it could mean unidentified Accipiter OR Astur)...then
all is well with the world.

Steve Mayo
Bethany

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eBird will be retaining Sharp-shinned/Cooper’s but notes that it is a cross-genus split. They will also be replacing Accipiter sp. with “Accipitrine hawk sp. (former Accipiter sp.)”. They “officially” announced this two days ago on their website while summarizing the upcoming taxonomic update (currently set for October 22nd), but it’s been out for a while. Only six species will remaining in Accipiter (well, that is, until they finally get around splitting Sharp-shinned Hawk into more species!). For those interested in other taxonomic changes that will be “official” in October: Herring Gull will be split into 4 species (American, European, Vega, and Mongolian); the three redpoll species will be lumped into one (Redpoll); House Wren and Barn Owl will be split, with ours becoming Northern House Wren and American Barn Owl, respectively; and, Cory’s Shearwater will finally be split into Cory’s and Scopoli’s shearwaters. This should have a net 0 change on the CT state list as far as I can tell, losing “Hoary Redpoll” but gaining “Vega Gull.” I don’t believe there’s any confirmed “Scopoli’s Shearwaters” for Connecticut, with the term “likely” being used for one candidate that’s been reviewed. It’s a fun time of the year! -Matt Bell Vernon > On Sep 26, 2024, at 16:24, Steve Mayo via CTBirds <ctbirds@lists.ctbirding.org> wrote: > > There are plans to chunk Cooper's Hawk and American Goshawk into the genus > Astur. For further information, google the Wikipedia article called > "Accipitrinae". > > As long as (1) eBird retains a Sharp-shinned/Cooper's Hawk choice and (2) > HawkCount retains UA (it could mean unidentified Accipiter OR Astur)...then > all is well with the world. > > Steve Mayo > Bethany > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via email, send an email with just "join" or "leave" in the subject or body to: ctbirds-request@lists.ctbirding.org > > CTBirds, a service of Connecticut Ornithological Association - Bringing birders together statewide. Please support COA: https://www.ctbirding.org/join-us/ > > CTBirds is for the discussion of birds and birding in Connecticut. For list rules and subscription information visit: https://www.ctbirding.org/birds-birding/ct-birds-email-list/
SM
Steve Mayo
Fri, Sep 27, 2024 3:14 AM

Thanks Matt, for this excellent taxonomy update!

I'm looking forward to studying gulls again, and do hope that someday, all
shearwaters lose their aversion to CT waters.

Steve Mayo
Bethany

On Thu, Sep 26, 2024 at 8:28 PM Matthew Bell mjbell1214@gmail.com wrote:

eBird will be retaining Sharp-shinned/Cooper’s but notes that it is a
cross-genus split. They will also be replacing Accipiter sp. with
“Accipitrine hawk sp. (former Accipiter sp.)”. They “officially” announced
this two days ago on their website while summarizing the upcoming taxonomic
update (currently set for October 22nd), but it’s been out for a while.
Only six species will remaining in Accipiter (well, that is, until they
finally get around splitting Sharp-shinned Hawk into more species!).

For those interested in other taxonomic changes that will be “official” in
October: Herring Gull will be split into 4 species (American, European,
Vega, and Mongolian); the three redpoll species will be lumped into one
(Redpoll); House Wren and Barn Owl will be split, with ours becoming
Northern House Wren and American Barn Owl, respectively; and, Cory’s
Shearwater will finally be split into Cory’s and Scopoli’s shearwaters.
This should have a net 0 change on the CT state list as far as I can tell,
losing “Hoary Redpoll” but gaining “Vega Gull.” I don’t believe there’s any
confirmed “Scopoli’s Shearwaters” for Connecticut, with the term “likely”
being used for one candidate that’s been reviewed.

It’s a fun time of the year!

-Matt Bell
Vernon

On Sep 26, 2024, at 16:24, Steve Mayo via CTBirds <

There are plans to chunk Cooper's Hawk and American Goshawk into the

genus

Astur. For further information, google the Wikipedia article called
"Accipitrinae".

As long as (1) eBird retains a Sharp-shinned/Cooper's Hawk choice and (2)
HawkCount retains UA (it could mean unidentified Accipiter OR

Astur)...then

all is well with the world.

Steve Mayo
Bethany

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Thanks Matt, for this excellent taxonomy update! I'm looking forward to studying gulls again, and do hope that someday, all shearwaters lose their aversion to CT waters. Steve Mayo Bethany On Thu, Sep 26, 2024 at 8:28 PM Matthew Bell <mjbell1214@gmail.com> wrote: > eBird will be retaining Sharp-shinned/Cooper’s but notes that it is a > cross-genus split. They will also be replacing Accipiter sp. with > “Accipitrine hawk sp. (former Accipiter sp.)”. They “officially” announced > this two days ago on their website while summarizing the upcoming taxonomic > update (currently set for October 22nd), but it’s been out for a while. > Only six species will remaining in Accipiter (well, that is, until they > finally get around splitting Sharp-shinned Hawk into more species!). > > For those interested in other taxonomic changes that will be “official” in > October: Herring Gull will be split into 4 species (American, European, > Vega, and Mongolian); the three redpoll species will be lumped into one > (Redpoll); House Wren and Barn Owl will be split, with ours becoming > Northern House Wren and American Barn Owl, respectively; and, Cory’s > Shearwater will finally be split into Cory’s and Scopoli’s shearwaters. > This should have a net 0 change on the CT state list as far as I can tell, > losing “Hoary Redpoll” but gaining “Vega Gull.” I don’t believe there’s any > confirmed “Scopoli’s Shearwaters” for Connecticut, with the term “likely” > being used for one candidate that’s been reviewed. > > It’s a fun time of the year! > > -Matt Bell > Vernon > > > On Sep 26, 2024, at 16:24, Steve Mayo via CTBirds < > ctbirds@lists.ctbirding.org> wrote: > > > > There are plans to chunk Cooper's Hawk and American Goshawk into the > genus > > Astur. For further information, google the Wikipedia article called > > "Accipitrinae". > > > > As long as (1) eBird retains a Sharp-shinned/Cooper's Hawk choice and (2) > > HawkCount retains UA (it could mean unidentified Accipiter OR > Astur)...then > > all is well with the world. > > > > Steve Mayo > > Bethany > > > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via email, send an email with just "join" or > "leave" in the subject or body to: ctbirds-request@lists.ctbirding.org > > > > CTBirds, a service of Connecticut Ornithological Association - Bringing > birders together statewide. Please support COA: > https://www.ctbirding.org/join-us/ > > > > CTBirds is for the discussion of birds and birding in Connecticut. For > list rules and subscription information visit: > https://www.ctbirding.org/birds-birding/ct-birds-email-list/ > >
WB
William Banks
Sat, Sep 28, 2024 1:51 PM

Sent from the all new AOL app for iOS

On Thursday, September 26, 2024, 8:29 PM, Matthew Bell via CTBirds ctbirds@lists.ctbirding.org wrote:

eBird will be retaining Sharp-shinned/Cooper’s but notes that it is a cross-genus split. They will also be replacing Accipiter sp. with “Accipitrine hawk sp. (former Accipiter sp.)”. They “officially” announced this two days ago on their website while summarizing the upcoming taxonomic update (currently set for October 22nd), but it’s been out for a while. Only six species will remaining in Accipiter (well, that is, until they finally get around splitting Sharp-shinned Hawk into more species!).

For those interested in other taxonomic changes that will be “official” in October: Herring Gull will be split into 4 species (American, European, Vega, and Mongolian); the three redpoll species will be lumped into one (Redpoll); House Wren and Barn Owl will be split, with ours becoming Northern House Wren and American Barn Owl, respectively; and, Cory’s Shearwater will finally be split into Cory’s and Scopoli’s shearwaters. This should have a net 0 change on the CT state list as far as I can tell, losing “Hoary Redpoll” but gaining “Vega Gull.” I don’t believe there’s any confirmed “Scopoli’s Shearwaters” for Connecticut, with the term “likely” being used for one candidate that’s been reviewed.

It’s a fun time of the year!

-Matt Bell
Vernon

On Sep 26, 2024, at 16:24, Steve Mayo via CTBirds ctbirds@lists.ctbirding.org wrote:

There are plans to chunk Cooper's Hawk and American Goshawk into the genus
Astur. For further information, google the Wikipedia article called
"Accipitrinae".

As long as (1) eBird retains a Sharp-shinned/Cooper's Hawk choice and (2)
HawkCount retains UA (it could mean unidentified Accipiter OR Astur)...then
all is well with the world.

Steve Mayo
Bethany

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Sent from the all new AOL app for iOS On Thursday, September 26, 2024, 8:29 PM, Matthew Bell via CTBirds <ctbirds@lists.ctbirding.org> wrote: eBird will be retaining Sharp-shinned/Cooper’s but notes that it is a cross-genus split. They will also be replacing Accipiter sp. with “Accipitrine hawk sp. (former Accipiter sp.)”. They “officially” announced this two days ago on their website while summarizing the upcoming taxonomic update (currently set for October 22nd), but it’s been out for a while. Only six species will remaining in Accipiter (well, that is, until they finally get around splitting Sharp-shinned Hawk into more species!). For those interested in other taxonomic changes that will be “official” in October: Herring Gull will be split into 4 species (American, European, Vega, and Mongolian); the three redpoll species will be lumped into one (Redpoll); House Wren and Barn Owl will be split, with ours becoming Northern House Wren and American Barn Owl, respectively; and, Cory’s Shearwater will finally be split into Cory’s and Scopoli’s shearwaters. This should have a net 0 change on the CT state list as far as I can tell, losing “Hoary Redpoll” but gaining “Vega Gull.” I don’t believe there’s any confirmed “Scopoli’s Shearwaters” for Connecticut, with the term “likely” being used for one candidate that’s been reviewed. It’s a fun time of the year! -Matt Bell Vernon > On Sep 26, 2024, at 16:24, Steve Mayo via CTBirds <ctbirds@lists.ctbirding.org> wrote: > > There are plans to chunk Cooper's Hawk and American Goshawk into the genus > Astur. For further information, google the Wikipedia article called > "Accipitrinae". > > As long as (1) eBird retains a Sharp-shinned/Cooper's Hawk choice and (2) > HawkCount retains UA (it could mean unidentified Accipiter OR Astur)...then > all is well with the world. > > Steve Mayo > Bethany > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via email, send an email with just "join" or "leave" in the subject or body to: ctbirds-request@lists.ctbirding.org > > CTBirds, a service of Connecticut Ornithological Association - Bringing birders together statewide. Please support COA: https://www.ctbirding.org/join-us/ > > CTBirds is for the discussion of birds and birding in Connecticut. For list rules and subscription information visit: https://www.ctbirding.org/birds-birding/ct-birds-email-list/ To subscribe or unsubscribe via email, send an email with just "join" or "leave" in the subject or body to: ctbirds-request@lists.ctbirding.org CTBirds, a service of Connecticut Ornithological Association - Bringing birders together statewide. Please support COA: https://www.ctbirding.org/join-us/ CTBirds is for the discussion of birds and birding in Connecticut. For list rules and subscription information visit: https://www.ctbirding.org/birds-birding/ct-birds-email-list/